outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

Don’t link to fucking Quilette you credulous boob

Jesus

Really taking the mask of your wannabe ecofascism lately dude

I don't know a single thing about Quillette. I'd never heard of them prior to 10 minutes ago. I just know that this is a plausible reason for the issues with the testing, and it was posted by Chris Martinson, who I've followed for 13 years. He's also been on top of Covid19 since late January.

As for ecofascism, I've been following collapse related issues for around 22 years or so. Is Jared Diamond an ecofascist? Greta Thunberg?

is there a magazine

collapse monthly

What’s COVID’s VORP?

Idk is a guy who has a website called “peak prosperity” a disaster capitalist hmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Christ dude you’re the one who weeks ago was nodding approvingly at the Xi regime for having the required authority to lock up a whole province get a fucking grip

Am going to put the phone down and read a book instead of possibly libelling Jared Diamond

In a Daily Beast article, Alex Leo described Quillette as "a site that fancies itself intellectually contrarian but mostly publishes right-wing talking points couched in grievance politics".

Venice has been collapsing for centuries now. Then again, sometimes sinkhole opens in Florida and swallows four houses in as many hours. Collapse is a land of many contrasts.

While Martenson calls himself a scientist in the video’s titles, his claim to the label is, according to him, based on a 1994 PhD from Duke’s Department of Pathology where he specialized in toxicology. While he published scientific research in the ’90s, for at least the last decade Martenson has focused on predicting stagflation and other large shifts in financial markets.

lol

Sanpaku if you had more than a one track mind you might be aware of anything at all on the planet of earth other than your own pitiful survival.

Climate change is of the utmost importance, behind protecting his inheritance.

xp silby:

Absolutely. China, South Korea, and Singapore are about the only countries on the planet that are treating a novel disease with this R0 and this CFR with the requisite concern and national policy. Perhaps Taiwan as well, though they've been spared serious tests by local community transmission disease clusters.

I believe that by late April or early May, you'll have a practical understanding of why China's policy was a very good one when facing this bug.

did I forget to tell you to eat shit and fuck off forever

Nazi fucking freak

Silby, I'm not going away. I'm not going to spend my time insulting a stranger on the internet, either.

well pig let me tell you, it's pretty cathartic

whoa dude chill

about the fash pig swanning around like he's the prince of science? I won't

Uh I'm not Paku's biggest fan but you turned off U Dumb Street and went right down Godwin's Alley

Sanpaku is an ignorant petty authoritarian wannabe brownshirt with a fetish for disaster and an obvious weakness for pseuds and charlatans, it's shocking he hasn't already started a "race science? just asking questions!" thread, I'm sick of his bullshit

I've done PCR DNA amplification in the lab. Not rtPCR, which became prominent out after I left mol bio work. It's plausible to me that the higher complexity of a tripartite test for the three related coronaviruses would have more kinks than the single tube protocols that were published as early as 24 Jan and were endorsed by WHO.

To date, I hadn't seen a plausible explanation for CDC's issues getting a test out. A lab was contaminated? That would have been apparent during verification. I'm curious. I like other people that are curious and thought others might be interested.

Sanpaku I'm not reading the article published by the phrenology, anti-trans hate, and white supremacy blog

so go fuck yourself

By the way, I'm very much in Timothy Snyder's corner on the whole ecofascism question.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you to fuck off

yes but what's your evidence

I'll show you evidence! *balls fists ineffectually*

Sanpaku I'm considering learning to fight so I can kick guys like you in the balls when they come for the Jews and trans kids, what martial art is the best for kicking you in the balls, as an expert in all human fucking knowledge

Ooookkkk

Silby is otm re Quillette. You might as well link a Jordan Peterson op-ed.

or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Is this yet another example of ILX taking bad faith interpretation of a user's behavior?

Ehh, probably

how much winking am I supposed to tolerate from this asshole

"Peak Prosperity" my fucking ass

Idc who does what, just saying Quillette is toxic and shouldn't be linked if it can be avoided

silby i fear i may have misgendered you upthread and if so i am really really sorry

Ok piece on Taiwan's response.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china

I've done PCR DNA amplification in the lab

congrats? so have all my 10th graders

Quillette is trash.

just delurking to say that as a former employee of both the scripps institute of oceanography and the lawrence berkeley cyclotron, and as a current science teacher, i feel so much fucking shame and disappointment when i see ppl pay attention to sanpaku's puffed up credentials and jargon. it just means my profession has broadly failed to innoculate ppl against charlatanry.

Hey, look, if it's ever determined that a particular skull shape or jawline predisposes you to coronavirus, Quillette will 100% be first on the case. So why not give them, and those who link and quote their articles, the benefit of the doubt?

itt, admissions of broad failure to innoculate

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy reading Plasmon's inspired takedown of Sanpaku from years past.

Not really down with the occasional demonizing that goes on here.

Also great to see ya back even if fleetingly tlg

Silby: You don't know me. I'm the token lefty in my family. The crazy vegan bicyclist living in a $875 1 bdrm on a street where Norteño music gets loud Friday nights, because I don't need more, and I save where I can. The one who spent more on Warren's campaign last month than I spent on food, and more still at the therapist. I'm the autist without siblings and raised in a retirement community, so my entire childhood was reading. Books nearly killed me going up the outside stairs last move. If you think physically beating a person like me will make the world a better place, perhaps you should question who the goosestepper in our relationship is.

And just as I'm the leftist in my family, I'm the one that reins in alarmists on places like r/climate or r/collapse (which FYI is totally voting for Sanders, we drove out right wingers 3 years ago). Case in point, moderating the alarm when news of this outbreak, as there was no evidence yet of human to human transmission. It was only when papers/stats on the the R0 and CFR came out 3 weeks later that my eyes got wide. So far, my concerns have been paralelled by others who know far more about epidemiology than I do after reading all the pop cultural books by Laurie Garrett, Richard Preston et al.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs

pop cultural epidemics

what's wrong with norteño music pendejo

Nothing. Just means I have to turn the audio books up higher.