itt, admissions of broad failure to innoculate
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy reading Plasmon's inspired takedown of Sanpaku from years past.
Not really down with the occasional demonizing that goes on here.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
Also great to see ya back even if fleetingly tlg
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:19 (four years ago) link
Silby: You don't know me. I'm the token lefty in my family. The crazy vegan bicyclist living in a $875 1 bdrm on a street where Norteño music gets loud Friday nights, because I don't need more, and I save where I can. The one who spent more on Warren's campaign last month than I spent on food, and more still at the therapist. I'm the autist without siblings and raised in a retirement community, so my entire childhood was reading. Books nearly killed me going up the outside stairs last move. If you think physically beating a person like me will make the world a better place, perhaps you should question who the goosestepper in our relationship is.
And just as I'm the leftist in my family, I'm the one that reins in alarmists on places like r/climate or r/collapse (which FYI is totally voting for Sanders, we drove out right wingers 3 years ago). Case in point, moderating the alarm when news of this outbreak, as there was no evidence yet of human to human transmission. It was only when papers/stats on the the R0 and CFR came out 3 weeks later that my eyes got wide. So far, my concerns have been paralelled by others who know far more about epidemiology than I do after reading all the pop cultural books by Laurie Garrett, Richard Preston et al.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link
pop cultural epidemics
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
what's wrong with norteño music pendejo
― the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:48 (four years ago) link
Nothing. Just means I have to turn the audio books up higher.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:49 (four years ago) link
Burrito otm
I actually dunno if they are but i always wanted to type
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 March 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
For those curious how Taiwan has been so successful controlling the outbreak (and with little of the coercion seen in mainland China), this is a good read. Especially the 100+ action items in the eSupplement.
Wang et al, 2020, Response to COVID-19 in Taiwan: Big Data Analytics, New Technology, and Proactive Testing. JAMA.
Using mobile phones to verify self-quarantines may rile those who value civil liberties over life. But jeez, they sent their army into support mask factories, and produced 44 M masks before their first confirmed case. It perhaps really helps to have an epidemiologist as national VP.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:23 (four years ago) link
Sanpaku there’s no reason to take anything you say or link seriously because you’ve got very bad judgment
― college bong rip guy (silby), Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link
Stop misleading people on this thread about important shit
For an obsessive it’s astonishing how little you know what you’re talking about
― college bong rip guy (silby), Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:40 (four years ago) link
sorry I need to keep touching my face
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:48 (four years ago) link
For the life of me
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 March 2020 05:49 (four years ago) link
It'd be easier to just cut off all contact with the outside world for a month.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 March 2020 06:00 (four years ago) link
Latest case in Victoria went to a Vietnamese restaurant up the street from me I even walked past it (on my way to buy fish) a couple of hours before the patient went there.
Vic gov (and I’ll grudgingly admit, the feds) are doing a good job here getting the message out about where people have been whilst emphasising that it’s still safe to go to these places - I may get a bowl of pho there for lunch tomorrow.
Good to hear from the Vic health minister today that anyone who wants a test can have one on request, they’d rather overtest than undertest. I feel somewhat fortunate to be in a country where a shitty government is at least willing to listen to and, by and large, put themselves in the hands of experts (at least on this).
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 8 March 2020 06:27 (four years ago) link
silby: that's a peer reviewed paper in one of the big 4 med journals. I mentioned upthread how Taiwan seems to be doing a good job, but didn't have a handle on how as it hasn't been well reported. That paper is how it was reported.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 March 2020 07:01 (four years ago) link
It literally doesn’t matter what you say, your judgment is terrible and your commentary is worthless, stop posting. Goodnight!
― college bong rip guy (silby), Sunday, 8 March 2020 07:12 (four years ago) link
Fingers crossed:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/cpac-coronavirus-conference-trump-pence
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 8 March 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
just wonderful stuff
When asked whether his thousand-person campaign rallies would would continue in light of the CPAC case, the president replied: “We’ll have tremendous rallies.”
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 8 March 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
May this make up for Bush's little pretzel that couldn't.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 8 March 2020 09:54 (four years ago) link
his underlying health must make him a shoo-in for death if he catches it
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 March 2020 09:56 (four years ago) link
Parma and SPAL players have just been sent back to the locker rooms while the Minister for Sport mulls over suspending the league. Idk how it can practically continue if Lombardy is on complete lockdown.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link
"Tom, how much do you need?""Two hundred and forty-two rolls.""Aw, Tom, just enough to wipe your arse with til the panic's over""I'll take two hundred and forty-two rolls." pic.twitter.com/BxYEJw3Rr6— Robert Peacock (@Peaky76) March 8, 2020
― calzino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link
in huit clos ? that's what's happening in biathlon.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link
er huis clos
― Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:45 (four years ago) link
Yep. They’ve given the go ahead for the match, after a lot of deliberation. No word on whether the players will have to keep a legally mandated metre distance from each other while playing.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 8 March 2020 12:47 (four years ago) link
:-(
dude is probably just trying to get by. it sucks that he may have put others at risk, but not everyone can afford to take time off. https://t.co/C1sdul4zGA— putting the pal in palestinian (@jennineak) March 8, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 March 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
There'll be no shortage of people who can't afford to take time off over the next few months
― Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 March 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
my best bud in Seattle is posting conspiracy memes about this now and saying it’s “overhyped” and he works in the service industry at a very popular and acclaimed restaurant there so... uh, good luck usa
― Clay, Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
Plz just say what restaurant some of us live here. Not that I’m likely to go to many restaurants for the next three weeks.
― college bong rip guy (silby), Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
I would suggest not going anywhere in the James Beard situation til like summer if you want me to be explicit
― Clay, Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
no sign any species of panic buying has hit my local hackney corner shop yet
― mark s, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
I have a ticket for a debate on Tuesday night in which Alexis Goldstein is going to demolish the competition in support of student debt relief and now I'm like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
No blatant panic buying at the supermarkets in my part of Williamsburg but I stopped by Whole Foods on Bedford Ave last night and there were whole sections denuded (pasta, rice, water, toilet paper, frozen vegetables).
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link
this is a really pointless frustration to express but: why r people buying bottled water in new york!!!!! ugh
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
yeah I would also like to understand the bottled water thing. is the virus going to infect the water supply too?
― k3vin k., Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link
ppl are irrational beasts
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
I found these helpful to get a solid sense (as much as possible) of what we know at this point and its implications:
Audio Interview: What Clinicians Need to Know in Diagnosing and Treating Covid-19 (March 5) https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2004244
Anthony Fauci NEJM editorial: Covid-19: Navigating the Uncharted (Feb. 28)
https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?articleTools=true
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 8 March 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
I'll post this again, too, which is pure stats and facts, updated regularly: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 March 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
Thanks Josh. It's chhilling to see all those nation-states in that Confirmed Cases & Deaths table, and among them one row dedicated to "Diamond Princess"
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 8 March 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link
On a personal note, I just received an email from my 75-year old brother-in-law. He went to the ER for flu-like symptoms, including fever and dry cough, tested negative for flu, pneumonia and strep, and was sent home with a face mask and without a diagnosis. He also has a heart arrhythmia. I'm hoping for the best possible outcome here, but he's clearly at risk.
Another brother-in-law and sister-in-law (both in their mid-70s) report they are quite ill with "a whopper of a cold/flu". I don't think they've sought medical care at this point. All three of these live in the Portland metro area.
I suppose if there is a 'good' time to catch this virus, it would be when ICU beds are still not over-booked and supplies still available. The inability to test them for a positive diagnosis is very frustrating to all of us.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 8 March 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
The inability to test them for a positive diagnosis is very frustrating to all of us.
American exceptionalism at work.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 8 March 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
Governor Cuomo asks New Yorkers to avoid crowded trains, buses and workplacesExpecting the work from home message from corporate sometime today
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 8 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
And obviously, thankful I have the dumb luck of being ‘white collar’ enough that we are being offered that option
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 8 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
aimless, very sorry to hear that about your in-laws - hoping the best for them.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 8 March 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
a likely story
#Coronavirus | Désinfox❌ Non, La cocaïne NE protège PAS contre le #COVID19 .✅ C’est une drogue addictive provoquant de graves effets indésirables et nocifs pour la santé des personnes.👉 https://t.co/ajSGwecauL pic.twitter.com/4GZ01Qmg5X— Ministère des Solidarités et de la Santé (@MinSoliSante) March 8, 2020
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 March 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
lol, nice try, random cocaïnomane.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 8 March 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
She don't lie
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 March 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
SEATTLE — A week after a deadly coronavirus outbreak was reported inside a nursing home in the Seattle suburbs, officials from the long term care center said on Saturday that 70 staff members were out sick with symptoms resembling coronavirus and six residents were also ill.A federal strike team of nurses and doctors arrived Saturday to support the staff at the long-term nursing home, Life Care Center of Kirkland, Wash., where officials have announced the deaths of 13 residents and a visitor who were infected with the virus. Tim Killian, a spokesman for the care center, praised the workers who continued to show up even as 70 of the nursing home’s 180 employees have developed symptoms.“The amount of work and stress that these staff and employees and caregivers are under is tremendous,” Mr. Killian said. “They truly are heroes.”Earlier on Saturday, Mr. Killian said that the center was still unable to get all of its staff members tested for coronavirus. The home had received 45 virus testing kits, Mr. Killian said, which was not enough for the 63 remaining residents and dozens of staff members.Later in the day, Life Care managers said the state had provided additional test kits, enough for all of the residents. It was not clear whether there were also enough kits to test staff members.
A federal strike team of nurses and doctors arrived Saturday to support the staff at the long-term nursing home, Life Care Center of Kirkland, Wash., where officials have announced the deaths of 13 residents and a visitor who were infected with the virus. Tim Killian, a spokesman for the care center, praised the workers who continued to show up even as 70 of the nursing home’s 180 employees have developed symptoms.
“The amount of work and stress that these staff and employees and caregivers are under is tremendous,” Mr. Killian said. “They truly are heroes.”
Earlier on Saturday, Mr. Killian said that the center was still unable to get all of its staff members tested for coronavirus. The home had received 45 virus testing kits, Mr. Killian said, which was not enough for the 63 remaining residents and dozens of staff members.
Later in the day, Life Care managers said the state had provided additional test kits, enough for all of the residents. It was not clear whether there were also enough kits to test staff members.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/coronavirus-nursing-home.html
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 8 March 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link