outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

xpost FWIW he's also a death cultist, so

Age breakdown of Italian fatalities

463 have died (97 today)

Of these:

1% 29-50yrs
10% 60-69yrs
31% 70-79yrs
44% 80-89yrs
14% over 90yrs

— James Longman (@JamesAALongman) March 9, 2020

I mean, even under ordinary circumstances, he doesn't exactly live like he cares about continuing to live.

xp I was interested to read that Italy’s population is like 25% people over 65? We have less than half that % in Ireland, but the Italian proportion is incredible.

about 15% in US (~ 50M out of ~~327M)

Isn't Italy one of the countries always listed as suffering from a population bust? It was either them or maybe France that actually had a Pr push to get people to have more kids,

BTW, I don't know where this "Trump is a germaphobe" stuff comes from. It seems as much BS as anything he's claimed. No doubt he doesn't even know what it means and just trots it out as an excuse.

"Show us your taxes!"
"Sorry, can't, I'm a germaphobe. Meanwhile, watch me feast on fast food and have unprotected sex with porn stars."

I was interested to read that Italy’s population is like 25% people over 65?

... and falling.

i only know about italy's population problems because of all those "move to this village and buy a house for a euro" things.

Trump's germophobia has been widely chronicled

why is that i, a person who would consider moving to this village and buying a house for a euro, never see these things

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/07/donald-trump-germaphobe-1399258

https://1eurohouses.com/

new villages have campaigns every so often. xpost

xpost Yeah, I know, but he's hardly Howard Hughes.

xps Not France, could be Spain or Italy. France’s population is growing.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Europe_population_over_65.png/800px-Europe_population_over_65.png

I think it was Italy.

https://www.npr.org/2016/09/01/492288842/italian-fertility-campaign-to-boost-national-birth-rate-backfires

Making lakes N/A was useful.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?width=880&height=440&id=SPDYNTFRTINITA

uuuuuuuuuuuuugh, please don't call it the #trumpcrash, uuuuuuuuuuugh

https://i.imgur.com/n02c8ob.png

Doesn't TrumpSlump work better?

drumpf harrumph

it would, that's true. but the point is to tie it trump (even though the crash of global markets is not directly attributable to trump - it's one of the few times we can ever say that). so if that's the point, crash is worse than slump, more permanent sounding, gotta go for that dogmatic slogan

Per that World War Z comment upthread:
BBC: Israel to bring in 14-day quarantine for all arrivals

On the bright side (sort of) the current mortality rate in France appears to be around 0.02%. Quality of healthcare and ease of access are key factors, unsurprisingly.

hmm in france i see 1,209 confirmed cases, 19 deaths, which is about 1.5%

johns hopkins tracker

19/1209 = 0.0157, which i could see someone rounding up to 0.02 and confusing with 0.02%. but the percentage would be 1.57%

pomenitul is cancelled (down)

This is why I never do math. Why is it 1.57% instead of 0.0157%?

Btw it's now 30/1412.

because 100% = 1

50% is easier to parse than "0.5" I guess

lol yes that makes sense.

Cancel away.

Btw it's now 30/1412.

up to 2.12% now

😱

shoot, better adjust my dn now. because gosh darn it, i DO give a toot

i was hoping pom would double down and we'd get one of these https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751

Wasn't the mortality rate ultimately calculated in South Korea a lot lower than people have been claiming?

Anyway, the obvious conclusion is that quality of healthcare and ease of access are ultimately irrelevant. I stand with President Trump.

Reading about the life or death struggle of Italy's Patient 1, a 38 year old who runs marathons, has freaked me out a bit

link?

it's not very nice to freak out on your own and leave us hanging

He's fine now:

https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/03/09/news/coronavirus_il_paziente_1_di_codogno_respira_autonomamente_via_dalla_terapia_intensiva-250766238/

xp:
South Korea has the best health surveillance with a large outbreak: by testing, and testing of known contacts, and free drive through testing of any who may be anxious. They hence are capturing pretty much every mild and assymptomatic case and I trust their statistics more than any other nation with a big outbreak. Their case fatality rate is 0.7%, and I've been watching this inch up for weeks as more critical cases resolve (to recovery or death) and more cases enter the critical category. So 0.7% is a bottom bound for case fatality rate in a country with a modern healthcare system that hasn't been overwhelmed, with South Korea's age demographics.

He's out of ICU, basically.

xp

Gaetz has it!

xp:
Should add here, the Shincheonji Church of Jesus at the center of the Korean outbreak has younger demographics than the country as a whole, so this may lower case fatality rate further than might be expected from Korea's age pyramid.

xpost Does he have it or was he just tested?

Anyway, the CPAC patient zero must be a name, right? Because how else did he have personal contact with all these idiots, and how did all these idiots know who it was who might have infected them?

South Korea appear to have tested 3.8% of their entire population. The US... 6 tests per million.

cool country we got here

italy extending restriction zone throughout the country