outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

digital thermometers are also used to make sure cold food is cold in restaurants and whatnot. i don't understand your calibration in one direction theory.

is bumping elbows an actual thing? xps

would have thought just a hello and nod of the head would do

Hoping to see this one take off

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3GUk2a7ndN2wg/giphy.gif

tokyo flights now rerouted through frankfurt but seemingly going ahead, with a few hours added on, so hurrah etc

josh i am sorry to be so nosey and pesky, but you've been delivering food to homebound seniors? you've posted even more in this thread than i have so i know you're aware of the risks...that's nice of you but be careful! that's like...direct vector transmission to by far the most vulnerable group of people.

i can't imagine working in the retirement community or senior home assistance fields right now, must be really tense.

also tapping feet TikTok-style

xposts

xpost I haven't gone anywhere and have no reason to believe I have anything, and they haven't gone anywhere and are not going anywhere. It's not like we're coughing all over each other or anything.

I think senior homes and the like must be more stressful. These people live alone, so to ignore or avoid them would do more harm than good.

oh for sure, i know. i guess i'm just thinking of what home-delivery measures/precautions other countries are taking. i see that home delivery companies (and some countries like china) are pushing for "no-contact" deliveries (https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21168699/postmates-coronavirus-no-contact-deliveries)

my mom is 91 and (thank god in this situation) lives alone in a non-seniors-only cul de sac condo in the outer suburbs of the twin cities. She is not taking this danger very seriously but her habitual hermity lifestyle is already just about ideal I think/hope.

digital thermometers are also used to make sure cold food is cold in restaurants and whatnot. i don't understand your calibration in one direction theory.

^^^

So the woman who sits across from me is now out because she and her husband are self-isolating while they await his test results. He’s been sick ever since he returned from Milan 3 weeks ago. She kept on cracking jokes about him having it last week and it struck me as insanely irresponsible of him not to have been tested so I said something to my boss who in turn said something to her and he was tested over the weekend. Kind of feel like a bitch but come on. Also, insert this is fine dog here.

Like, that's as red flag as it gets!

Why has it hit so hard in northern Italy?

He’s been sick for three weeks and they didn’t think of doing anything til you said so?!

I’m not entirely sure but I think it’s at least partly because they have a large population of older and therefore more susceptible people.

X-post - I know!!

The first case of Corona in Congo is introduced by a Belgian. There is so much to unpack here, on different levels. We Belgians causing problems in Congo since over a 100 years... https://t.co/W78SlL1kjN

— Gillian Mathys (@GMathys) March 10, 2020

And yes. She was so flippant about it. Finally last Friday she had to go get cough medicine at lunch because he kept her up all night and I was like uh yeah this is not cool lady.

The Associated Press reports:

A commercial flight from Colorado ski country to Newark, New Jersey made an unscheduled stop in Denver after several passengers became disruptive because they were seated next to someone who they thought was sick, officials said.

Three passengers failed to follow crewmember instructions after growing upset about being seated next to the supposedly sick passenger.

The “sick” passenger in question was apparently suffering from allergy symptoms, and was screened for a fever onboard which came back negative. The three unruly passengers were removed by police in Denver, while the remaining passengers and crew continued on to Newark.

xp I mean me, I would be upset if my husband was sick for three weeks, but obviously not everyone takes that kind of thing seriously!

xpost ugh. I hope your building management had her desk and the shared spaces completely sanitized.

we don't have that many cases yet, but a 2 year old and 14 year old tested positive.

flights, and maybe trains, are gonna get like Invasion of the Body Snatchers

*sneeze*

YOU'RE ONE OF THEM

A 2-year old? That seems like a new development.

am assuming it's probably because they ended up testing them because they were part of the family where someone had symptoms and tested positive.

Why has it hit so hard in northern Italy?

Have read that it's a combination of older population plus social culture that is very tactile with lots of cheek kissing etc

I've read something different - that the only difference is that it started spreading there earlier. Caveat lector obviously.

Yerac as of this week we have had automatic hand sanitizers installed and wipes etc but she hasn’t been in since Thursday so if he has it I presume at least some of us are fucked.

Why has it hit so hard in northern Italy?

Have read that it's a combination of older population plus social culture that is very tactile with lots of cheek kissing etc

― groovypanda, Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:51 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

all the finger kissing can't help

She said it hadn’t really occurred to them to have him tested since he was right on the cusp of when it supposedly became dangerous there but there’s so much we don’t know about this and with those symptoms and even a change that he or she could pass it on to a person in a vulnerable group? If it had been me I would have sought testing immediately.

Anyway hopefully it’s just a coincidence!

I would think they would know the test results by now?

No apparently not yet. I think there’s a big backlog.

Cuomo dispatches Natl Guard to New Rochelle

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-adds-5-new-covid-19-cases-tri-state-total-more-than-triples-in-days/2319688/

Feels like cases starting popping up earlier in the UK and a few other places but those people (like the guy who came back from the ski lodge) were immediately put into quarantine upon return. I think a lot of people in Italy were spreading it completely unawares for some time.

If the number of cases is going to balloon in Britain then it's surely going to happen within the next fortnight or so?

Yep if you look at the graphs we are all headed for Italy, we are just lagging. And they have a lot of trade links with China, which might explain why they were earliest.

Here's the coronavirus data, overlayed with the dates offset by the amounts shown. One of these countries is not like the rest. Everyone else will be Italy in 9-14 days time. pic.twitter.com/VESY54X1gP

— Mark Handley (@MarkJHandley) March 9, 2020

jeez, great job japan

There could be other reasons at work there:

COVID-19 Testing Per Capita pic.twitter.com/8YNSN629XO

— Coronavirus Charts (@covid19charts) March 10, 2020

good luck usa

Covid-19 death toll jumps 36% in Italy
The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has jumped by 168 to 631, an increase of 36%, the Civil Protection Agency said on Tuesday, the largest rise in absolute numbers since the contagion came to light on 21 February, Reuters reports.

The total number of cases in Italy, the European country hardest hit by the virus in Europe, rose to 10,149 from a previous 9,172, an increase of 10.7%.

The head of the agency said that, of those originally infected, 1,004 had fully recovered compared to 724 the day before. Some 877 people were in intensive care against a previous 733.

i was thinking they would not do a quarantine here any time soon because of the still low amount of positives but then I remembered that there are still a lot of protests so of course they would likely start it earlier rather than later to get people off the street. So we are replenishing all supplies this weekend.

Italy's undetected cases must be (many?) multiples of their reported, if they're pushing 6.8% case fatality rate...

xp: Discovered I don't have a thermometer. On Amz, all out of stock / available from 3rd parties at high markup, including oral disposables.

it's fever fever!

this article makes it honestly not seem that big a deal. thank u for crashing my pension lads
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/coronavirus-facts-mortality-rate-is-there-cure

if we had the same level of monitoring and attention for flu cases... would the picture not be similar? iunno. in any case a whole bunch of annoying meetings at my work have just been canned - so big fan of all COVIDS including 1 through 19

Gotta catch 'em all!

i think a lot of this is having to make allowances for the great many people who have lost the ability to adapt to anything in life that seems to inconvenience them, so it's going to amplify all the expected knock on effects.

if we had the same level of monitoring and attention for flu cases... would the picture not be similar?

I mean Whitty is Whitty and I'm an internet rando, but it's hard to see confidence in the 1% figure rn