How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

There is a lot of talent here. What a waste.

The debate around identity and protecting gender rights is complicated. People deserve so much better than this kind of flippant disregard. pic.twitter.com/5LLZuIVsQt

— Lisa Nandy (@lisanandy) March 10, 2020

sometimes she shows true potential and I really want to like her, it's just a shame she thought going back into that UKIP/legit concerns quagmire and a conservatively neoliberal approach to the economy was the correct route to take Labour into power.

She's right on gender self-ID but so were Theresa May and Penny Mordaunt. The bar isn't that low.

I thought it was now tbh!

in the personal sense I would probably much prefer her irl to that loathsome oily piece of shit Starmer!

she held herself genuinely impressively in that, and used a bit of humour well. shame about some of her policy stances as (as i've said above) ceteris paribus she is by far the most impressive of the three in debate or public speech

so long as Islamophobia isn't the issue at hand ;)

She was good on No Deal brinksmanship and coronavirus/the economy in the Guardian the other day as well, even if her approach would be seized upon by Cummings as continuing to try and frustrate Brexit etc it's probably a line that whoever wins needs to keep hammering in preparation for when everything goes wrong.

When they finally announce the winner no one outside the Labour Party will give a shit, the country hasn't exactly been riveted by the contest and people will have other things to worry about.

Starmer's humourless boring demeanour and sort of posh boss who everyone calls a wanker behind their back persona will be a major problem in the north for the Labour party, not just his voice or the Remoaner perception. I'm almost looking forward to seeing him getting hilariously brutalised by the opposition tbh. I know that is bad praxis, but I want the stupid membership to own their boy and reap what they have sown - the bunch of softy-lefty-melty fuckwits!

He’s a lot less posh than most of the media gatekeepers and right-wing arseholes (yes, overlapping Venn diagram) who would have to sell that line. Maybe his obvious lower middle class discomfort in certain circumstances is a positive? Will it get anywhere with the demographic of people with THIS FAMILY BELIEVES IN LOVE wall transfers in their kitchen extensions/women who call each other Hunni on FB/people who watch the One Show?

I’ve just started applying to adopt a whippetlurcher so I can’t wait to see what the rescue pages will make of the Dilyn situation. I can’t imagine it will go down well at all.

my soul is chilled by that glimpse into suzy's world of normies

the writing fad needs more analysis imo, can't tell how much sheer stupidity is betrayed by getting so caught up on signifiers. someone bought us a teaspoon that has the word 'lovely' written vertically down the handle am i relatable now

sort of posh boss who everyone calls a wanker behind their back persona

TBF this accounts for most of our recent Prime Ministers.

Nandy is probably just as posh as him, but did you see his humorous anecdote about valentine's night in Newcastle recently? It had all the hallmarks of a nauseating bore being who is used to being a boss figure and politely indulged by underlings that daren't tell him he's a complete wanker!

Sign up to a few pet rescue pages and suddenly these people are EVERYWHERE (and I forgot the ‘fleece, Crocs and shite tattoos’ grouping).

nandy's bg is posher than starmer's despite the fact she's tried to turn herself into the exotically northern townsperson the media like to see her as

I know I'd read her common touch is quite a performance, but I'd be cool with that if she wasn't such a tory in disguise.
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May was more like the stern but (lol) fair boss who you don't fuck with because you know they have a vindictive streak. Starmer seems more ingenuous but just as charmless as well, type of boss who gets the basic minimum of respect.

the writing fad needs more analysis imo, can't tell how much sheer stupidity is betrayed by getting so caught up on signifiers. someone bought us a teaspoon that has the word 'lovely' written vertically down the handle am i relatable now

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Ms Nandy, Tory in disguise

When we were looking at houses, the number of houses that featured Union Jack décor

noticed a while ago how many airbnb places had Union Flag cushions - but properties on estate agents sites too. Keep Calm And Have A Cuppa type shit all over the walls too natch.

tbf, this stuff spans quite a few social demographics and there are i am sure subtleties distinguishing between the cath kidston set and honest hardworking twee patriots

absolutely coating the walls in tat with 'love' and 'we believe in love' and 'omg love' and 'this is a house of love' = strong correlation with divorced mothers

Hahahahaha the direness of wall transfers is the one thing my mum and I agree on - she says she imagines the daddy of all interfamilial shouting matches going on with a wall transfer with FAMILY MEANS LOVE or similar lurking in the background.

HOWEVER I’ve had this waiting to be framed for ages, sort of undermining the wall transfer concept:

http://www.artnet.com/artists/christopher-wool-and-felix-gonzalez-torres/poster-untitled-xwP6-K_r8FAx3DVlAmpvQg2

They’re worth about a grand now, whoa!

We were due a new sneering at the little people thread.

Are the petty-bourgeois/boring middle-class types under discussion “the little people”?

this was on the wall of a house we looked round

https://i.imgur.com/SIQjFAS.jpg

union jack cushions = working-class couples who've made some money & developed a pioneer spirit. sometimes these places are otherwise v good airbnbs

this is not sneering this is cool-headed analysis. the most egregious 'house of love' was my friend's mother who is a v v v high-powered city lawyer/pr type

i can only say fair play

omg ogmor

Oh FFS, leave us to criticise people who have more money and less taste than most of us in the precariat.

that picture getting better of course when you recall how euro 2004 ended for england (portugal's goalie scoring in a shootout)

omg ogmor, that is traumatizing!

personally I salute it

This way, please:

Real England

Doc not missing a beat here, dropping an email on Corona in my inbox

I'd consider giving her my 2nd pref if she said 'Rhythm of the Night: Classic or Dud?'

When does this finally end? At this rate they'll just give it to the last one left alive.

that'll be Corbyn back in as interim leader then, call this competition off - they're all useless!

wld be a great time to get members busy locally, nothing. starmers comments so weak

Yeah WhatsApp momentum groups are doing a bit of that

Camden’s mutual aid group is VERY active.

Have we noted anywhere that the coronavirus "over 70s don't come to work" rule excludes Corbyn from Westminster for the remainder of his tenure? guess it wasn't for long anyway.

A journalist explicitly asked about parliamentarians yesterday - presumably to confirm the govt had just excluded the leader of the opposition from parliament.

Presumably second house almost empty too...

Jez sez:

“I raised this very specific issue, not for myself but for other people. It’s more important that those who have underlying health problems, be it diabetes, be it heart conditions, be it lung conditions, be it people with emphysema, or industrial injuries that they’ve suffered, they’re likely to be more vulnerable than those that are healthy. So it is not just an age thing.

Personally speaking, I will carry on with my work, I will carry on accepting the responsibilities that I have in this position.”

Sometimes you just need to do your fucking bit and follow the protocols.

This will prompt thousands of "healthy" 70 year olds to follow suit. Age is as much of an indicator of complications as any other health measure.

Over 70s wouldn’t vote for Corbyn so idk why they’d choose to follow him now?

gpwm

I work with a 72yo veg farmer who will be leaving his farm only twice weekly, going to a specific place for six hours each time to trade (while taking extra hygiene precautions) so that everyone else can have fresh, healthy food. Healthy 70+ people who are still in work and provide essential services are not keen on self-isolation as long as their family members don’t exhibit symptoms.