outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

it's tough for me to be objective about 9/11's global impact, as an american, but i didn't consider it as a global "event" on the coronavirus scale just because i'm sure the "event" for many countries was just "god i hope U.S. doesn't invade us". whereas with coronavirus i'm sure pretty much any place with an airport is directly affected

9/11 was everything for a week or so, then we all knew it would have huge repercussions, as far as how it affected the everyday lives of people in most countries around the world over the following year, not so much.

Feels more like the great financial crisis, with ground shifting beneath us, but more so.

meanwhile in arkansas:

“One pastor said half of his church is ready to lick the floor, to prove there’s no actual virus,” an Arkansas pastor told me. “In your more politically conservative regions, closing is not interpreted as caring for you. It’s interpreted as liberalism.”https://t.co/n1pweTSS3Q

— Julie Zauzmer (@JulieZauzmer) March 15, 2020

9/11 wasn't even a crisis in the US relative to coronavirus

35 Italian tourists to Ethiopia 🇪🇹 refuse to return to Italy 🇮🇹 despite the expiration of their visas. European undocumented migrants finally arrive in Africa! History is full of irony ...

Can I...just......

Fleeing likely death in your own country and illegally entering/overstaying in a safer one............how novel.

Source? I can't seem to find anything other than that tweet.

the immediate crisis of 9/11 - for the areas of the country outside of the immediate impact zones, outside of the immediate families of the deceased - was preparing for the continuing crisis that we were totally unprepared for, which never actually arrived. at least, to my 18-year-old derpbrain that's how it felt. whereas this seems like the actual arrival of that crisis, without preparation.

xp

just could not feel less confident in our national leadership after that press conference

US local/state leadership on the other hand appears to be making intelligent strides by and large; just unclear how this is going to be working in june

Oh I don't know anything about that story, I just took that tweet at face value, maybe that was naive of me.

I feel dread and fear I'm going to start drinking a lot

It would have been nifty indeed but it's likely bullshit. The original French tweet was deleted btw.

xp

It will probably take a few days to get any more of a report on it if at all. Just enjoy.

NYC schools closing

full story:

New York City’s public school system, the nation’s largest with 1.1 million students, will begin to largely shut down this week, in what is the city’s most aggressive and disruptive effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

“I’m very, very concerned that we see a rapid spread of this disease, and it’s time to take more dramatic measures,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said late Sunday afternoon. “This is a decision I have taken with no joy and a lot of pain.”

Public schools in Long Island and Westchester County will also close this week, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said on Sunday. The governor ordered New York City school officials to develop a plan within 24 hours on how to offer child care to students of parents who work in essential industries like health care and to provide food to students who will need meals.

In New York City, the schools will be closed on Monday for all students and staff, but teachers will be asked to report to work later in the week for training on how to provide remote learning, Mr. de Blasio said.

“These children need you,” the mayor said in an appeal to the city’s teachers. “Keep their education going.”

The decision to close the schools came after the mayor faced increasing pressure throughout the day, including from the governor.

Some campuses will reopen on March 23 as “enrichment centers.” They will be set up to provide instruction and services for vulnerable children, likely including many of its homeless students and children with special needs.

The mayor said the goal is to reopen all the schools on April 20, though he cautioned that could be overly optimistic. He said there was a strong chance that the schools would not reopen at all this school year.

“The facts have given us no other choice,” he said.

All public and private schools in Nassau County, which includes some of the most densely populated areas of Long Island, will be closed starting Monday, Laura Curran, the county executive, announced Sunday.

In New Jersey, Gov. Philip D. Murphy said Sunday that a statewide school shutdown would be “imminent.”

In Connecticut, Gov. Ned Lamont said Sunday that all public schools in the state will shut down on Tuesday and stay closed until at least March 31.

Can I...just......

Fleeing likely death in your own country and illegally entering/overstaying in a safer one............how novel.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Sunday, 15 March 2020 22:19 (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not certain that this a good look but we can meet up after all this is over and have a fight and a drink about it

Doesn't matter, it's just a revenge fantasy.

the coronavirus emptying the stadiums and turned professional wrestling's high-octane zaniness into a taut and terrifyingly tense Beckett play https://t.co/mev27EWiDR

— Anthony Oliveira (@meakoopa) March 15, 2020

I'm happy for it not to be true, it's absolutely ghoulish. But it's also no *more* ghoulish than what some of our countries regularly do. Certainly not mine.

That's amazing.

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Knew you'd like that better

The Queensland Police Service will suspend roadside breath-testing for drugs and alcohol for the time being in order to minimise the risk of transmission of Covid-19 to police officers and the community.

Seems like this is not the sort of thing you should announce to the general public, especially not in Queensland.

Queensland cops are not the brightest bunch

I went to see Endgame a few weeks ago and didn't expect it to be so short-term prophetic.

60 year old GP, Dr Clare Gerada, has #COVIDー19.
She explained on #BBCBreakfast what having the virus was like ⤵️#coronavirusuk #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/Otv3rbIHau

— BBC Breakfast (@BBCBreakfast) March 16, 2020

I suspect the no breathalyzing thing just means they will instead use "field sobriety tests," which are subjective and kinda bullshit, but that's another matter.

CAUSE OF ARREST: he look drunk

I watched this last night - extraordinary. They're two months in. UK-only unfortunately I think

Wuhan: Life under Lockdown
With exclusive access to two film-makers inside the Chinese city of Wuhan, Our World tells the story of life under lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gj5f

CAUSE OF ARREST: he look drunk

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, March 16, 2020 9:38 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

And/or not white.

This is Queensland we’re dealing with.

Here's a 10-minute version of the Wuhan doc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-51858226/coronavirus-life-inside-china-s-lockdown

My spouse is staying home as of tomorrow since the university is going online next week. We are still in double digits of cases and almost all imported. Last semester classes were basically canceled for over a month because of protests and student strikes so he ended up recording like 8 lectures for the students and then just did a final exam. I listened to every lecture from another room and am trying to make him stop saying "effectively...".

Oh man. This was for the other thread. Bah.

threads need much clearer titles tbh

Real-time evidence of flattening the curve. Lodi had the first Covid-19 case in Italy, and implemented a shutdown on Feb 23. Bergamo waited until March 8.
Look at the difference.

Incredible research by @drjenndowd, @melindacmills & co-authors. https://t.co/JYf1F5GnYu pic.twitter.com/iMVXBJ59Y6

— Don Moynihan (@donmoyn) March 15, 2020

apparently in france macron is gonna announce a 45 day lockdown tonight, effective tomorrow or wednesday. a day after he let elections take place...

yes, the rumors are curfew after 6pm each day, but still just rumors

still just rumors

Yep, or so it seems at the moment:

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2020/03/16/non-un-decret-n-a-pas-deja-prepare-le-deploiement-de-l-armee-pour-imposer-un-couvre-feu-en-france_6033260_3210.html

uh thx for the info, i believed my friends without checking as they've ties to a few ppl in the ministères and they'd mentioned the 45 day lockdown, nothing about a curfew though. i should have factchecked before !

the rumors going around on WhatsApp today, my kids had a "screenshot" of something from the Sénat announcing the curfew already. but we'll see at 20h.

games dev company in central london actually emailed people over the weekend to say they expected them in work today. just.. what the hell goes on in these
people’s heads?

in Wisconsin, I feel like I'm one of the only people who actually stayed home today? (we can work from home, but only once a week...I suspect that changes very soon)

also we have 2 kids, school doesn't shut down until Wednesday but yeah. if anyone's spreading this around it's the children.

most of Ireland was losing the head last night over spurious WhatsApp messages about a lockdown announcement at 11 am today

didn't occur of course, but it seems somewhat inevitable

It's interesting to watch how employers who were grudging about telework last week have totally flipped their mindset.

Last week: (sigh), okay, you slackers, IF your manager approves, AND you send a daily account of what you did, AND it doesn't affect daily operations, then MAYBE we will approve limited remote work.

This week: justify why you would even CONSIDER going to the office, you homicidal maniac!

similar to my department, which has been a mess for the past week - went from mandatory weekend work saturday to everyone being told "go home and don't come in next week, even if you're not set up for wfh" (almost no one is set up yet)

also spent last night trying to convince my 66 year old dad to not go in to work at his retail job, where he's the only employee over the age of like 35, he eventually agreed not to but it was like pulling teeth

the rumors going around on WhatsApp today

Relevant:

https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2020/03/16/c-est-la-mere-de-ma-femme-qui-me-l-a-dit-sa-meilleure-amie-travaille-a-l-institut-pasteur_6033265_4408996.html

Seriously what is that company going to do if its entire workforce gets sick at once?

He had a form of leukaemia. What’s the UK plan for immunocompromised younger people, many of whom will be living in house shares with people whose work is very likely to bring them into contact with the virus? https://t.co/7lOOE40BTh

— Abi Wilkinson (@AbiWilks) March 16, 2020

In Chile they are closing the borders to all foreign people for 14 days.