making friends and influencing people

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this might cheer you up
http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16112

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:37 (twenty years ago) link

Get a job (however menial and crapulent) in a university library. Or maybe not.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:41 (twenty years ago) link

Not.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:16 (twenty years ago) link

All the friends I have made in the last three years have been through the Interweb. :(

(Well not :( cos they are great but I suspect strongo has explored this option as fully as he wants to)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:20 (twenty years ago) link

''i just realized today that i have never once in my life had to "make friends." they all just sorta fell in my lap, whether i wanted them at the time or not. god is now punishing me.

i don't have any real problem talking to people - yesterday I nearly tripped and killed myself, laughed about it with a girl who was sitting where I tripped, and made small talk for five minutes - its just that i have no idea how to extend this small talk into something uh organic without asking for phone numbers and looking like i'm trying to pick people up. also, i do not like ingratiating myself into conversations or situations because i know how often i myself like to be left alone while in public.''

Jess is ME or something. this thread is like looking into a mirror. I like the advice diamond and millar give but i don't drink or smoke. (At least you posted a thread abt it whereas i prob wouldn't).

And look at it this way: at least jess knows more abt pop kulcha. I mean, i don't even know much abt that so its not like i have much of a starting point as far as talking to people.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

i think you should leave olympia. (yeah, i know i was one of those that said you should go there in the first place, but i think going back east is necessary now, even if not permanently)

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:54 (twenty years ago) link

(actually the New York bit of my suggestion is the least neccesary)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:57 (twenty years ago) link

Olympia is a terrible city to begin with; I'm not that fond of Seattle but it'd be an improvement by a long shot...

Another way to make friends is to not take any advice Gareth has ever given you, by the way all of his advice seems to turn out!!! Whatever Gareth advises me to do from now on, I will do the exact opposite.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

what can you mean?

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

When you say that, you should put your finger on your chin saucy-like and look really innocent, that's how I'm imagining it at least.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

Ally, his advice must be right! Gareth is better than you, it has been proven by science (er, ilm).

Larcole (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

If he's so much better than us, why does he give such terrible advice? Is it a plot to make us all look worse than him?

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'd like to see the raw data.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

I believe you've seen evidence of this already, you gossipwhore.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

Ned is the Rhona Barrett of ilx.

Larcole (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not too sure whether to be pleased or insulted by this.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

INSULTED.

Next!

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

You ain't the boss of me!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

Oooh girl you done gotten sassy.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

Talk to the hand. *flounces off*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

God, this is a fundamentally hard question. The "join a club" suggestion keeps coming to mind, but maybe more like start writing things for a publication you like, or start a disco night. In fact, yeah, the latter works really well - it gives you a great focus, people can be impressed if it works well, you get to DJ in the best time slot, and you meet people. I know, I've done it.

Whatever you do, be proactive in doing it. It doesn't have to be you walking up to strangers and trying to start conversations; if you do something that isn't entirely solitary you *will* come into contact with other, probably like-minded, people.

Think of it like looking for a job. If you don't write application letters, ring contacts, etc., something *might* fall in your lap, but it ain't likely. If you start searching, things happen, even if they're not what you're expecting.

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

And yeah, "strongo hulkington" = best thing about ILE right now (though personally I reckon capital letters would add to the machismo).

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Strongo, you can join my sewing circle I want to start up if you want?! I may have missed aomething upthread, but er... why not get a rub temp job? You generally tend to make friends, even if they're not the bestest most fun people you want to be yr best mates in the whole entire world it's possible you could still have some fun AND earn money if you've got bugger all else to do. Of course this is weighed out by the actual JOB thing sigh chiz.

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

lafayette penoril is better than strongo hulkington

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

I second the DJ Jazzy Jess idea. Also a lot of college/smaller radio stations take volunteers. (Warning: you may be exposed to massive amounts of indie.)

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

see that's a big problem right there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

Strongo, I will give you my nice Olympia friend's email address as soon as I can find it.

Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

maybe i'll make a mix-cd ala dj clue

DJ STRONGO COMIN THRU!!

YOU KNOW HOW WE DO!!

*KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

it will be made up entirely of def jux and tigerbeat6

never say i dont know how to pander to an audience

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

play some 'machine gun' for me jazzy jess.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

THIS ONE GOIN OUT TO JULIO IN THE BIG LON-DOWN TOWN

OH NO! NEW SHIT! PETER BROTZMANN FEAT. REDMAN!

*KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

haha thank you.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

alright i'm goin back out into th ebig bad world. wish me luck.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

smoke a cigar and i'm sure you'll be fine.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, chicks dig that "green" look...

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

don't really know, it's difficult, especially if you get used to only hanging with certain people. I pretty much have dismissed alot of new people I met because I think you can become very snobby when you've got a small number of friends you're really close to. That and other people suck.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link

i ate a nice club sandwich in a little retaurant and read my book but alas i was contented to merely gaze longingly at the people engaged in conversation

and then show them my willie

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

You gots to approach them (like look for someone else half-reading their book). Also: keep pants on.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

the irony in my reading a biography of joseph cornell is not lost on me HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

I heard this site called Friendster was the new thing..
er..
Are you interested in politics? Volunteering? How about working on a grassroots campaign or for some other cause? (going to a Dean campaign meetup or another candidate's organizational meetings for instance).. I am serious, you will meet people in an environment where you'll have a chance to get to know at least some of them, but you won't be obligated to make friends if you don't get along either, and at least you'll all want to be there (as opposed to a crappy temp job).

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 24 July 2003 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Also, what about a book club? The book clubs in Olympia have to be cool, right. Are there any writer's salons/clubs etc?

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 24 July 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

Great suggestions, daria! Volunteering at a thrift shop is fun. I like people who thrift.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 July 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
haha if i only knew it could get worse...

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 February 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

did you try the cup?

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 16 February 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...

Yeah, sometimes hanging out at bars isn't the best way to try to meet people.

ew, who actually makes new friends at bars? isnt it implied that if ppl are talking to you they want to get nakey w/ u ?

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck! No wonder my new bar friends never wanted to catch up during the week.

Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

haha -- Vic, that would make FAPs a whole lot more interesting, I think. Probably not for the better, either.

Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 6 September 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm maybe I should have said get "either nakey with you, or want you to read their script," etc. Otherwise, here, I don't know if bars are actually the place to make NEW (platonic) friends.

there should be a corresponding thread of how to GET PERMANENTLY RID OF PEOPLE YOU KEEP TRYING TO AVOID, especially if THEY HAVE BOTH YOUR CELL AND HOME PHONE #S. But otherwise, on this topic - yeah, as cynical as it sounds, I'm finding as I go thru life, that having a common hate - especially if it's of another person - is a great way to bond with people, and get closer to them.

Vic (Vic), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Haven't had too much luck in my area after 11 years, sadly. Despite my relatively eclectic interests I fear I don't have that magnetic/memorable quality that makes someone wonder what I'm up to today, and social media sickens me (partly because it just motivates me to have pity parties like this). So a bit out of sight out of mind by default, and now pandemic limits ambitions considerably unless I want to engage in some major cognitive dissonance. I just want to have lots of friends to jam and game with. By the way, after being here the exact same amount of time I've honestly not totally felt part of the ilx clique either. So that being said, maybe I can improve. How is everyone doing?

Evan, Monday, 28 September 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

A pandemic does makes things more difficult. My own experience on making irl friends in later life is that voluntary or community activity is probably the only reliable route, for me at least.

Cliques in general are probably not worth the price of entry in terms of effort and commitment balanced against the payoff of belonging (not sure whether there is an ilx clique in practice however).

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link


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