not a word about people yet
― stet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
https://images.app.goo.gl/pvKjMquTAZ2QpZmZ8
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
3-mo mortgage holiday
― stet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
(for those affected)
you'd think COVID 19 was a virus that just attacks businesses after listening to that long-winded cunt.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
"this is no time for ideology" ..pretty much sounded like prioritising our precious wealth creators to me.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
Nothing about people on rent or their bills?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
Not that I heard, it was all about our poor beleaguered wealth creators to my ears.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link
such as anyone instructed to get a flu jab each year
do they not advise flu shots for everyone over there? Seems silly.
― silby, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link
The measures are necessary because the alternative is a gigantic spike in unemployment and the collapse of some sectors, but the lack of rent measures is outrageous, particularly when mortgage holidays are already on the table.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
Nothing about statutory sick pay either?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link
so landlords stop paying their mortgages but renters have to keep paying them rent?
― ymo sumac (NickB), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
"Sunak insisted that an employment support package was on its way, and that he needed to finalise the details first with business and the unions"
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
£330m doesn't feel like anywhere near enough.
― felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
someone is dying and dr sunak is trying to negotiate terms and conditions with them before he agrees to any emergency treatment
― ymo sumac (NickB), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link
The measures are necessary because the alternative is a gigantic spike in unemployment and the collapse of some sectors
this is both true and a key reason why fuck this society at the same time
― ---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link
many more people than previously or than they ever expected are going to be exposed to how fucking evil and completely inadequate the benefits system has become This is key
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
No it was a big clanking typo on the BBC website, although £330bn doesn't feel like enough either.
For the first time in any of our lives this is a moment where the government actively NEEDS GDP and economic activity to fall, because the alternative is the spread of the virus, the question is what you do to help it rebound.
More to the point what do you do if this carries on longer than the two or three months projected?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
“well Matt that would be unsustainable”
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
the lack of rent measures is outrageous, particularly when mortgage holidays are already on the table.
Mortgage holidays don't really cost anybody anything aiui. All it means is that if you have a break for hardship, you extend the term of the loan. Start subsidising rent (which is a good idea) and you get to the question of why you aren't also paying towards mortgages.
Some form of UBI is probably the best option here. Stick everyone a couple of grand to use as they see fit.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
more chance of them bringing back rationing imo
― ---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
Republicans are proposing $1000 per person.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
Will read this later
Giving this a bump from y'day, it still applies- the coronavirus crisis is no mere recession, not even an institutional failure like 2008-9, but a fundamental crisis of economic organisation that will necessitate a dramatic restructuring of the economy: https://t.co/Et8vAu73ot— James Meadway (@meadwaj) March 17, 2020
No it was a big clanking typo on the BBC website, although £330bn doesn't feel like enough either.For the first time in any of our lives this is a moment where the government actively NEEDS GDP and economic activity to fall, because the alternative is the spread of the virus, the question is what you do to help it rebound.
Also worth stressing that the £330bn seems to be for loans, which will start to accrue interest charges after six months.
I guess one of the challenges with stimulating economic activity at the moment is that there's not much you can spend money on, other than rent and grocery deliveries, if you're stuck at home. I guess it's possible that they're timing a stimulus for when we're allowed to leave the house.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
do they not advise flu shots for everyone over there? Seems silly.― silby, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:53 (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― silby, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 17:53 (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes i was puzzled by that when i first read it silby -- they tell me to get a jab every year
but in fact on the gov.uk website theres a list which doesn't include me and they're making a difference between "advised" (e.g. me) and "instructed" (e.g. someone who recently had an actual real heart attack or routinely needs steroid injections for lung stuff)
― mark s, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
I suppose the thing is that it isn't really a stimulus because you don't want to stimulate activity now, you want to make sure that when demand does return (and people are going to be fucking desperate to go out and do stuff) the places to spend that money still exist.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
Also that can't happen if everyone's lost their job in the meantime.
Still got it:
The government has announced a mortgage holiday for homeowners but it must suspend rents too.Millions of people rent in the UK.Suspend rents. Ban evictions. Now.— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) March 17, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
I enjoy looking at the first few replies to these tweets of his and sending them to my Corbyn- and landlord-hating friend to radicalise him.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
Corbyn doesn't need a 2nd thought on attacking the fucking tories, Starmer on the other hand, at the moment is trying his best not to offend them.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link
NEW: Sunak says the Housing Secretary will be making a statement in the coming days "to protect renters in these difficult times"— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) March 17, 2020
― stet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link
I'm sure jenrick has some real radical proposals and landlords will be shitting it.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
This is the calm before the storm, before the surge. And when it comes, and it will come, never will so many ask so much of so few. We will do all that we can to support them.
In years to come, let them say of us when things were at their worst, we were at our best.
leo
― ||||||||, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
"A day like today is not a day for soundbites, but"
― ---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
xp DONT
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
The gravest of tones, the bluest of shirts
the actual fuck am i watching from maitlis here
grilling a WHO (pronounced 'who' btw ffs) official as if she was the uk govt
not that ive seen anyone grill the uk govt
setting up these ludicrous questions about the govt daring to take mobile phones off ppl and check their contacts, i mean is this a big worry over there?
wtf
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
in a stupid parallel universe Jess Phillips is the leader of the opposition now
Of course most landlords will do all they can to help tenants https://t.co/gIkAHjyMoE— Jess Phillips MP (@jessphillips) March 17, 2020
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link
I can't imagine how grim it would be if someone who was a weak tory lite piece of piss with dodgy funding and garbage politics was LOTO right now!
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
I hope Starmer is correct and we can platitude our way out of this crisis. https://t.co/UmOJcbL8jj— Keir Milburn (@KeirMilburn) March 17, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link
Sigh. Developed a slight dry but persistent cough yesterday and self isolated even though I felt fine. Then developed high fever at 4am today. There is a lot of COVID-19 in Westminster.— neil_ferguson (@neil_ferguson) March 18, 2020
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link
by my maths, if every mp gets infected, 11.9 of them will dieplace your bets
― uncle-knower is coming for you (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link
It's not for the likes of us to question the ways of the Almighty
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:05 (four years ago) link
BG if corona drove you back to ilx I for one applaud our pangolin overlords
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:21 (four years ago) link
dropping in occasionally to wish death on powerful people is my vibe rn
― uncle-knower is coming for you (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:45 (four years ago) link
shout out to the entire media class
― ---------------six feet----------------- (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link
thankful for living in an area of London that's so racist that the Turkish and Pakistani supermarkets are still well stocked. God bless Nigel Farage still— hussein kesvani (@HKesvani) March 16, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link
Above all else right now the absolute non-medical priority for the government should be ensuring reliable food supplies to the over-70s and other at-risk groups. Virtually nothing else matters more and I haven't seen any real announcements about it?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 11:30 (four years ago) link
Anonymous briefings that Cummings was 'in talks' with Deliveroo and Uber a few days ago is the most I've seen.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
Bring back rationing but really. People completely losing the run of themselves and exacerbating the issue for the most vulnerable. My family at home can’t believe this shit, people are still going out to shop but social distancing from others.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
I mean that's vmic
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
"The daily number of coronavirus cases has risen above 3,000 again. Today’s count is 3,105, up from 2,621 yesterday. Today’s total is lower than was recorded at the end of last week, but it is still only the fourth time the daily total has been above 3,000 since the end of May. The recent trend - a sharp increase - is being maintained."
And given many can't get a test..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
Was completely impossible for me to get a test when I checked last night, and I'm in suburban London
― imago, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
“My worry is that we’ve demonstrated that a better world is possible” says senior Tory pic.twitter.com/MKzbW3gi1Y— Ollie (@O_lloyd) September 15, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
this fucking country
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
lol who could have seen this coming
Care home firm that sacked MP for raising PPE fears admits it did have shortagehttps://t.co/pvYOsQMOi0 pic.twitter.com/VzNfL5BUl6— Mirror Politics (@MirrorPolitics) September 15, 2020
― scampo italiano (gyac), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
Grenfell files ‘lost forever’ after laptop wiped, inquiry hearshttps://t.co/RBKJnizXtg— ITV London (@itvlondon) September 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:19 (three years ago) link
That sounds like it's nothing to do with the wiping of the laptop and everything to do with crucial files no longer being on the server where they were supposed to be.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link
Nice double punch of nothing matters there.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link
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are we waiting until bj gets covid a second time
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link
i mean god willing but
― mark s, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link
a new thread? but literally nothing matters
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link
Reference the six or nothing truly matters
― scampo italiano (gyac), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link
Forensix Oppostion
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link
^
― scampo italiano (gyac), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link
Quite sobering to realise I was literally travelling home from work that day from our office and haven’t been back since.
― scampo italiano (gyac), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link
ForenSix Opposition - Politics in the Soon To Be Former UK in Autumn 2020
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link