outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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People by O'Hare here say the skies are clearer than they've been in years.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

Or rather: it's complicated.

xp

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

Guess The City crew in pincer movement

cherry blossom, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

well that's a bummer, but still I think there's a chance we all go outside one summer day and realize with great frustration that the bugs are back

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

if i survive this, totally going back to the Venetian lagoon, Burano looks dope

lukas, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

0% interest rates, bidets, covering your face, social distancing.... girl we goin to islam???

— laraib (@_laraiib) March 17, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

knew it was coming - Sacramento County has now issued a Stay At Home order


https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241299741.html

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

some a+ material in the replies to the tweet tracer posted

uncle-knower is coming for you (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/coronavirus-response-climate-crisis

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link

italy's numbers today seem...... bad

||||||||, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

Italy’s numbers are interesting. 35,713 positive out of 165k tests isn’t suggesting much randomised testing. Are they just treating identified and suspected cases during lockdown? Depends how widely the infected travelled, and if they haven’t tested that many people then they’re not going to be stemming the new cases as well as they need to be.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

does anybody have rough numbers in terms of yesterday's death toll? tyia

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

289 active cases in IL now, up from 160 yesterday (80% increase)

US cases up to 7,731 now, up from 5,723 yesterday (35% increase)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

xp sleeve you mean US, or global? 112 deaths in the US (according to https://covidtracking.com/data/)

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

worldwide deaths are up about 800 on last night, according to the johns hopkins thingy

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

thanks, brb gonna yell at some people on FB

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

xpost You mean 8000? It's actually close to 9000, last I saw.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

Just because perspective is useful, however unpleasant, CDC estimates the 1968 flu pandemic (which no one talks about, afaict) killed 1 million worldwide.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

I meant a 1-day total, for yesterday ideally, I think mookie is right?

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

xpost You mean 8000? It's actually close to 9000, last I saw.

mookie was citing the deaths from just yesterday alone

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

it was just under 8000 last night + 800 today = 8732 right now

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

I make it a 12% rise in total reported deaths in the last 24 hours.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

Wait, so HALF today’s deaths worldwide were in Italy?

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

More than 400 in 24 hours. Grim.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

the US numbers look discouraging, but Fauci did also say it'd be weeks before we really knew if we were making an impact, especially because now late testing is catching people who should have shown up on reports weeks ago.

but I'm growing less confident every time I see some other asshole say "fuck it, you can't tell me I can't live my life" and they fucking do body shots off of each other at a house party in the midst of a crisis.

(ok I haven't *seen* anybody do this, but ya know, an example)

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

yeah it's really not clear if new infections are spiking that much or if we're just testing that much more

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

I mean obviously now it's both

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

it is amusing to me that the same voters who claimed Obamacare was evil because it would install death panels are the same people who are refusing to self-distance when overcrowding of hospitals will create real life 'death panels' when hospital beds and ventilators have to be rationed

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link

every day is a goddamn death panel when it comes to living in a society amirite

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Thursday, 19 March 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link

^Sheryl Crow's best

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 02:46 (four years ago) link

a happy couple enters the bar
dangerously close to one another

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 19 March 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link

The information about asymptomatic carriers is one of the most confusing aspects right now, and the way it is being shared, even by the most intelligent health experts, is not helping at all.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 10:48

Agreed. The official WHO guidance is "The risk of catching COVID-19 from someone with no symptoms at all is very low. However, many people with COVID-19 experience only mild symptoms. This is particularly true at the early stages of the disease. It is therefore possible to catch COVID-19 from someone who has, for example, just a mild cough and does not feel ill."

But yes, there's been research that seems to run counter to that, though perhaps it's just down the the boundary between no symptoms and mild symptoms.

Similarly, the exact manner in which is it spread seems not settled yet. This is a good piece about how much it can be transmitted in the air:

https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/

Alba, Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:01 (four years ago) link

Not effective with severe cases, but looks promising?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china

clemenza, Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

I've been thinking that part of the issue with "asymptomatic transmission" is the subjectivity of "symptoms." I'm so used to going to work with "just a cold" or feeling "under the weather" that I barely notice when I do anymore. Just as I was typing this, I coughed a couple times, but I've probably coughed no more than 6-10 times all day. I have seasonal allergies too, which often lead to having mild cold or flu-like symptoms.

It seemed counter to what we know about viruses to think that a truly "asymptomatic" person could easily and widely transmit, but I think there are probably a lot of transmitters who just don't think they are "sick" because they only feel a routine kind of under the weather.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:09 (four years ago) link

Lesson to learn here is stop working as soon as you feel under the weather and go lie down, I guess.

silby, Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link

Again, it comes down to messaging. If the truth is that there are thousands of people with zero symptoms spreading this willy nilly, then a completely different approach is needed. None of the official guidance makes it clear though.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link

it seems entirely possible to me now that I actually caught this in February

frogbs, Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link

Lesson to learn here is stop working as soon as you feel under the weather and go lie down, I guess.

― silby, Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:11 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This actually isn't a crazy idea for what the post "peak coronavirus" (but pre vaccine) work world could look like, if we actually had sensible policies. Like if there was easy home or on-site testing available and any time a person felt even a little sick they could be tested and kept home, that would go a long way.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link

I mean having a mild cold or a bad allergy day is a good enough reason to go home and lie down imo

silby, Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

Florida has 328 now. a mere two weeks ago, we had only 6 known cases.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 03:31 (four years ago) link

How many tests were available 2 weeks ago?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

Spring breakers looking to triple that figure in a day or so, it seems.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:16 (four years ago) link

damn.

A message from the Chief Physician of Rikers Island for the judges and prosecutors of New York: We who care for those you detain noticed how swiftly you closed your courts in response to #COVID19 1/x

— Ross MacDonald (@RossMacDonaldMD) March 19, 2020

lukas, Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:19 (four years ago) link

How many tests were available 2 weeks ago?

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:14 AM bookmarkflaglink

idk, we seemed to be testing hundreds at a time (200-300), but probably still not widely available

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:25 (four years ago) link

Scotty form Marketing is doing the worst Moses impression ever.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 19 March 2020 04:56 (four years ago) link

I'm type A, I'm not going to worry about it

Dan S, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:15 (four years ago) link

What abt cut vs uncut did they check that

silby, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link

I’m type o negative

Like the band
*intense eye stare*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link


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