outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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I'm type A, I'm not going to worry about it

Dan S, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:15 (four years ago) link

What abt cut vs uncut did they check that

silby, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link

I’m type o negative

Like the band
*intense eye stare*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

Finally, some benefit to being a universal donor aside from constant phone calls from the blood bank if I go too long without donating.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

I don't normally plug my own work on here but in case anyone's interested in knowing what's happening in Southeast Asia, you can follow me here: https://twitter.com/rozlatiff

I live in Malaysia which currently has the highest rate of infections in the region, most of which stemmed from ONE religious event attended by about 16,000 people. My colleagues and I reported on it here.

We are currently under country-wide lockdown - no citizens allowed to leave, no foreigners allowed in, all businesses shut except for essential services and supermarkets/grocery stores. And even then there are still idiots travelling between states to see relatives, holding weddings, and crowding the supermarkets.

Been working and focused on this for weeks... I’m so tired, you guys.

Roz, Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

the highest rate of infections in the region, most of which stemmed from ONE religious event attended by about 16,000 people.

Feels like a minor miracle for the US that this happened 4-6 weeks too early for baseball Opening Day and 10-12 weeks too late for peak football season.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link

Good luck Roz and please take some time to look after yourself

ymo sumac (NickB), Thursday, 19 March 2020 06:49 (four years ago) link

Thanks Nick. It’s more mentally than physically exhausting now - working from home means there’s not much else to do apart from refreshing Twitter and keeping tabs of multiple chat groups.

Roz, Thursday, 19 March 2020 07:00 (four years ago) link

Yes best wishes Roz, thanks for the information.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Thursday, 19 March 2020 07:15 (four years ago) link

just one study, but interesting:

People with type A blood are more likely to catch coronavirus while those with type O seem more resistant, a preliminary study of about 2,000 patients in China showed.

― sleeve, Thursday, 19 March 2020 05:25 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As usual no mention of us poor forgotten type-b guys

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link

Perhaps they did the study in... Taipei

love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:51 (four years ago) link

As the universal leech (type AB), I’m pretty sanguine about it.

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:57 (four years ago) link

I wish I knew what my blood type was. Or maybe ignorance is bliss, in this case.

One thing I don't understand about the projections that say 60% of the world population will get the virus: the outbreak has peaked at 80.000-ish known cases in China. Presuming the tail of the curve mirrors the rise (and to be fair, idk if that's a reasonable assumption), you would end up with 160,000-ish known cases in China, which is a very small proportion of the total population. Obviously, you have to account for the extreme lockdown in China, and there's a lot of other variables at play/not every country's curve is going to look the same, there's the possibility of secondary outbreaks, etc. I am not a statistician, I've been scratching my head about this for a while.

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

I think O is the most common one

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link

Lack of testing suppresses those numbers though xp

Here in Wales we're on something like 170 confirmed cases but the true number is thought to be in the thousands

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

There's almost inevitably going to be a massive second outbreak somewhere in China, although maybe not in Hubei.

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

is the number given for China strictly for those that became ill, and the 60% figure including the ill and just those that carry are but not affected, i wonder?
xxpost

medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

It depends on geography. A is more common in some places.

https://www2.palomar.edu/anthro/vary/vary_3.htm

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link

Perhaps they did the study in... Taipei

Thumps up!

Stay safe Roz, you're doing god work.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

There is a very popular medium piece about true numbers vs official numbers. I don't want to post it because I didn't check it but if you search for Tomas Pueyo you can find it.

Yerac, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

There is a lot we still don't know. How the virus spread in different seasons/climates, whether it can or will make a resurgence days/weeks/months after any promising number drop. Most importantly, as always, how many people actually have or had it, which is essential information for when we need to get everything up and running again.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link

someone may have already posted it since it's so popular. xpost

Yerac, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link

(Man, apologies, it seems writing before the coffee kicks in causes me to drop letters and go into caveman talk.)

Today might be my first day venturing to a supermarket, btw. I'll report back (but wash my hands really well first).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

that was a great article, thx Yerac
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

Someone I interviewed six days ago has gone into quarantine after coming into close contact with another person who tested positive. Am waiting for their test results to come back, how fun.

Roz, Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

"When everything around you is uncertain, having a supply of ammunition can make our customers feel safer."

http://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/business/coronavirus-gun-sales/index.html

clemenza, Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

(expect a year or longer)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

This simulation is interesting for understanding the spread of disease generally, and how measures like social distancing contribute to flattening the curve.

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

they messed up the messaging so bad but we are where we are. they really need to shelter in place everywhere.

Yerac, Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

trumps presser today did make me chuckle w his rickles-like delivery of (paraprhased) "a lotta you are sitting too close.. probably 75 percent of you should leave...you two right there should definitely leave"

johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

“Supply chain and transportation impacts due to ongoing COVID-19 outbreak will likely result in significant shortages for government, private sector, and individual U.S. consumers.”

Ahhh. Just when I was feeling relatively calm about our ability to stay isolated for a while.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 19 March 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

Today, Italy surpassed China in Covid19 deaths. 41 035 cases, 3405 deaths, 2498 in serious/critical condition. 8.3% CFR. The US is still running 10-11 days behind, maybe 18-19 on a per capita basis.

My metro area has among the highest cases/capita and the highest case growth rate in the country. Still consuming perishable goods from a week ago, before breaking into the potato flakes. My Red Cross volunteer application is still pending, but I'm taking unusual comfort in avoiding depth charges at 150 m in a video game.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link

Worldwide, it's getting close to 10,000 deaths.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

Well getting sick during all this really doing wonders for my anxiety.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 19 March 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link

A guy in California just died after going to Disney World and Universal Studios in Orlando. 34 yrs old but had asthma and bronchitis.

nickn, Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

it's a small world after all

i am a horse girl (map), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

sorry folks

i am a horse girl (map), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

fuckin love it

thou shalt not covid thy neighbour's wife (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

I have a cousin who was supposed to go to Disney World around the same time that guy was there. Shortly before her trip she got in a really bad car accident so had to postpone the trip.

Fetchboy, Friday, 20 March 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link

34 yrs old but had asthma and bronchitis.

― nickn, Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:46 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh cool

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link

at first i was like "i don't care about getting it, i care about unknowingly giving it to someone else" but i really care about getting it now lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:11 (four years ago) link

i mean our medical histories aren't exact matches so who knows. good luck y'all may you have as little anxiety about this as possible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link

not talking about anything people did itt, but I get tired of every death of someone under 60 being followed up by someone quickly Kool-Aid-manning in with a "b-b-but he was a health risk!". keeps insinuating either that people that aren't a health risk don't need to worry about it or that it's less important of a death if a health risk/old person dies.

otoh I was off of FB for many hours today and oh such a good feeling.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:35 (four years ago) link

I care about being patient number 9871 or whatever, the guy who unwittingly transferred the virus to three key contacts who then infected thousands

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:35 (four years ago) link

otm

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:36 (four years ago) link

turns out that I know multiple people who met with someone with an infected person last week, but I haven’t talked to them for quite a while!

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:37 (four years ago) link

not talking about anything people did itt, but I get tired of every death of someone under 60 being followed up by someone quickly Kool-Aid-manning in with a "b-b-but he was a health risk!". keeps insinuating either that people that aren't a health risk don't need to worry about it or that it's less important of a death if a health risk/old person dies.

they could mean that, but you can also more generously think of it as an attempt to do some naive reasoning about probability, in order to allay one's own and others' anxieties. often that sounds like all-or-nothing reasoning about who can and can't be affected, but it's natural to suppress some ceteris paribus clause or something like that that acknowledges, of course, anyone might be affected and more or less according to various factors that make them more or less probable to.

j., Friday, 20 March 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link

i mean that makes sense too and I don't want to discount that many are doing that, particularly those at risk who are worried.

buuuut, I've seen the uglier side of it too so I'm often on the defensive.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 March 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link


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