The way we live now - how will covid-19 change us?

I can definitely see this impacting e.g. the norms of internat'l travel (in that we'll see less of it, both voluntarily and by mandate), but it's really hard for me to imagine a world without live music, mainly because such a world is too depressing to countenance.

folks, what is the consensus around getting takeaway food

we've been cooking happily for a week but i rly, rly would love a pizza or such. would i be supporting local businesses or putting myself/others at risk

10 days, not a week

I have been wondering the same, eventually I'm afraid the urge is gonna win out but I don't want it to be suicide pizza

I found this article helpful: https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html

I went to the chippy yesterday. Didn't touch door handle, food all handled with tongs, contactless payment, in and out in 2 mins. takeaway is prob safer than food shopping.

judging from that article it suggests it's riskier getting groceries and cooking yourself since the person stocking the groceries may be less following less stringent sanitation guidelines than the cook

if your food has a lone virion on it, you’d have to intensely smear the food on your hands then purposely rub them in your eyes and up your nose

so the consensus is that takeaway is fine? so long as you kind of avoid the courier?

yeah I got a pizza yesterday and I made sure to keep my distance. when they insisted on getting within two inches of me, I kicked the delivery driver in the ribs and then put their car in reverse.

had to be sure

This is the thread for “how will this event permanently change the way we live” not for more endless fearful nattering about whether touching anything that comes from outside is fucking going to kill you or not

that's true, but I didn't want to ruin any of the ongoing other threads with a relatively trivial concern

to bring the thread back into form I can safely speculate that when this is all over I will be spending a lot more time in pizzaerias and eating pretty much only pizza, with and/or around other people

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has gyac or an other posted about the airbnb thing

the ireland air bnb rental market thing?

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I posted about a Berlin based pal who has lost his airbnb income stream from other half of his flat which has left him skint and going to sign on das dole!

I was thinking about changes in everyday life while out walking today. (Didn't get within 10 feet of anyone, promise.)

9/11 -- airports, increased government surveillance
Katrina -- much better preparedness
2008 financial meltdown -- evidently, not much
Various mass shootings -- nothing

I'm sure changes will be massive here. Mostly good, I hope, invariably some bad.

has gyac or an other posted about the airbnb thing

that's true, but I didn't want to ruin any of the ongoing other threads with a relatively trivial concern

I can't work out if people are going to be super tactile when this is finally over or the exact opposite.

People are going to be getting laid all over the place and there's probably going to be a big spike in extra-marital affairs and/or break-ups. The people with solid marriages are really gonna know how solid they are.

available rentals are up 64% in dublin since airbnb landlords/companies started dumping about four days ago

2 beds in good areas down from 3500 to 2250 etc etc

1200 properties all a sudden up for long term rents that were short term only before

speculation that 5k properties within dublin will be available by the end of this

this genie isnt going back into the box

Gonna be curious to see the stats on fatal auto accidents during this period vs the same period in prior years.

i actually thought of you when i saw that air bnb ireland thing! xpost

thoughts, prayers and a 30% rent reduction all welcome at this difficult time

I was thinking today about my grandfather and how obsessive he was about always having extra food around because he lived through the Depression, and realizing that we're all going to be like that from now on.

...im kinda like that about some things since a rotten childhood tbh so 🤷‍♂️ i guess

i think i inherited all my extra food having in my home from my mom (oldest of five brothers and was very poor). it's come in handy several times now.

I've been obsessive about having a well-stocked pantry and other vital supplies purchased ahead of need ever since I had enough money to stop living hand to mouth. Houses, tools, food, medicines are all tangible. Money is largely theoretical. I always take care of the tangibles first, savings second, with investments well back in third place.

when i got married and my parents came up for the small dinner she brought me, from several states over, a huge kirkland pack of toilet paper, two watermelons, a large bottle of olive oil and a plant.

A friend of mine when i was a kid, his elderly Ukrainian dad used to have stockpiles of tinned vegetables and tomatoes in the cellar, probably loads of them out of date i would speculate. he'd emigrated to the UK in the late 30's so might have known a thing or two about food shortages.

I don't do airbnb but as I work in the sector I do host a lot of international students, this way I can afford to pay the rent on a decent-sized house, obviously this particular short/medium-term plan is fucked now.

If we can get a couple of lodgers it will be ok, but there are none out there right now, of course.

living in the same space that you have an air bnb'er was initially the spirit of it at first and it was great until people turned it into a professional sort of enterprise.

I think one of the major ones is going to be mass depression, a widespread mental health crisis.

People should be encouraged to find a way to express their sadness over the loss we are presently experiencing and will be for some time, which is not easy for many people, but allowing yourself to feel your grief can help stave off depression.

yeah, I had a brief spell today where I went to sleep because I was feeling depressed. it does help to just let it out.

Feel like the tradition of the handshake has been dealt a critical blow

I certainly hope so, it always gives me the shudders when someone puts their hand out to me and it's a fucking odious hangover from the paleocene that should have never made it into the modern era imo

Well in France we kiss on the cheeks to say hi/bye so consider yourself happy !

ILX will carry on but thread police will be extra strict after spending all this time sorting out the boundaries of these 8 different CV threads

I think one of the major ones is going to be mass depression, a widespread mental health crisis.

― Deflatormouse

america was already in the throes of a mental health epidemic and most people were pretending it didn't exist

honestly? honestly i can't see that covid is making a lot of long-term changes in how people live their lives. people are just the way they were before, but moreso.

I certainly hope so, it always gives me the shudders when someone puts their hand out to me and it's a fucking odious hangover from the paleocene that should have never made it into the modern era imo

― calzino, Monday, March 23, 2020 7:40 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I will take a handshake over a goddamn hug any day of the week

I like shaking hands with someone I'm meeting, and hugging a friend. I miss physical contact with people already.

Me too

People who can still afford it are going to be out all the fucking time when this is over. I intend to go to the pub three or four times a week and as many restaurants as possible.

To be honest though going more than a 15min walk from my front door would feel like a wild and dangerous adventure right now.

I really hope all the heathens who wear shoes in their homes finally stop.

Chris Ware strip:

https://scontent.fman2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/90760460_10156859421891176_2600980156633841664_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=kTLAFbUa-hAAX_zUvsC&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-2.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=7760efd7579f051639b3df5476e3fb29&oe=5E9EC54E

i gave up making long-term, specific predictions in november 2016. i don't feel like there's enough specific information about covid-19 right now for me to make any prognostications that are differentiable from wide-eyed speculation.

Haha, I should probably clarify that I reached the conclusion I posted about mass depression after consulting the Yijing:
六三：萃如，嗟如，无攸利，往无咎，小吝。
上六：齎咨涕洟，无咎。
That may be an overly literal take on it, but it does suggest to me a certian seriousness over frivolity.

I do worry what will become of public swimming pools and halloween.