we can see into the wrong future
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link
galaxy brane
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
need help contextualizing this nyc attack rate thing for my partner who thinks this means it's going to be as bad as italy here
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link
Some testimony from an intensive care doctor at my local hospital who's recovering from it:
His symptoms started "innocuously", he said, with a "burning sensation" in his nose and a loss of the sense of taste.
He did not develop a cough – one of the two most typical symptoms of the virus (along with a fever).
But this was followed by "a week of just feeling absolutely terrible – aching muscles, aching bones, unable to get out of bed and sleeping 16-18 hours a day", he said.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
would take that right now if offered tbf
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link
NEW DELHI (AP) — India’s prime minister decrees lockdown of country of 1.3 billion for 21 days.— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) March 24, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
Has he blamed Muslims for coronavirus yet?
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
Sleeping 16-18 hours a day sounds better then being fully present in the moment for most of it, frankly.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link
jfc, lockdown of 1.3 billion people by a single decree
these are crazy fucking times
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
xpost But did he develop a fever? It drives me nuts when these accounts leave out useful information, or elide over important facts. I keep seeing stuff like "At first I felt fine, no warning at all except a lingering fever that ... " The fever is the warning! It means you are not fine!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
define 'lockdown' imo
i.e. london is supposedly in 'lockdown' but the Tube is packed and people are copulating in front of B&Q using coronavirus for lubricant
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
wut abt indias economy
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
apparently the brokerages are making sure their outsourced back offices there are allowed to go to work lol
― silby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
The last 2 days have been sobering after showing some promise over the weekend:
https://i.imgur.com/vwdP6Wa.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
less reporting on the weekends innit
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
I could see how after Mar 21, a politician might be able to draw some conclusions that distancing has begun flattening the mortality curve and that hope/relief was on the way, but the acceleration back to exponential death rates is a bit unnerving.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
this is why i'm not too concerned about trump rolling back isolation in just a week. since it will take at least 2 weeks for any flattening to show in the figures that would require him to reopen restaurants when the death toll is at its highest and seemingly in exponential incline
― Mordy, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
that should buy us 2 more weeks i think -- at that pt we'll reevaluate and hopefully should have more masks, more/better testing, better prepared/equipped hospitals etc so even if we do relax measures it won't be as costly as doing so in a week.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
^ I could see that happening. As with so many other things that he doesn’t know about, it’s kinda disturbing that such a successful businessman doesn’t understand exponential growth, but I’m not surprised
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:26 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
“There will be a total ban of coming out of your homes,” Mr. Modi said.“Every district, every lane, every village will be under lockdown,” he said. “If you can’t handle these 21 days, this country will go back 21 years.”“The only option is social distancing, to remain away from each other,” he said. “There is no way out to escape from coronavirus besides this.”Left unclear was how Indians would be able to get food and other needed supplies. Mr. Modi alluded vaguely to the government and civil society groups stepping in to help, but offered no details.
“Every district, every lane, every village will be under lockdown,” he said. “If you can’t handle these 21 days, this country will go back 21 years.”
“The only option is social distancing, to remain away from each other,” he said. “There is no way out to escape from coronavirus besides this.”
Left unclear was how Indians would be able to get food and other needed supplies. Mr. Modi alluded vaguely to the government and civil society groups stepping in to help, but offered no details.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
“If you can’t handle these 21 days, this country will go back 21 years.”
this is a good line for prominent sane ppl in the U.S. to start parroting right now
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
what if all this is a prequel to a time travel event to 21 years ago
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
if they time the warp right, it would go back to...just before Y2K
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link
I'll take it
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link
is modi threatening india with partying like it’s 1999
― a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
man can't we relive some better 20 year period
― akm, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
If India's reporting was remotely accurate (atm: 519 cases, 10 deaths), at this stage the SK/HK/SG approach of aggressive testing, contact tracing, quarantine of individuals, and encouraging hygiene/physical distancing would seem to make a lot more sense. India is adeveloping nation, but it does have substantial biotech and healthcare resources to do this sort of mobilization. And any country will need to do this for a year + to guard against imported cases and new clusters, in any case.
What I infer from Modi's lockdown is that India's situation is much worse than they've reported.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
indeed the late 90s seem like some kind of amusement park now, though to enjoy it we'd need to have knowledge of the impending doom erased
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
oops out of time
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:46 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
and then during the prequel part (which we're doomed to repeat forever(?)) there's a montage of a bunch of smart people and thomas friedman talking about globalization and growing interconnectivity of the world, but they didn't realize how literally that was true. India goes back 25 years, but as it slips down the time-space continuum it pulls in Pakistan as well, and then afghanistan, iran, etc. so all of asia and africa and europe get pulled through within a few minutes of the event.
BUT THEN when the warp hits the edges of the continents, it stops. so iceland isn't affected, or australia or japan, or NA and SA. but THEN in the alternate 1999, the inverse is true, with the other continents gone missing.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
Someone should point out the logical flaw in my thinking if it's wrong, but I don't find any comfort in the idea that "the death rate may be lower than we think because we are not capturing all of the cases due to lack of testing." The only thing that matters to me is the raw numbers of severe cases and deaths, those numbers in comparison to the overall population, and those numbers in comparison to hospital beds. If (making up numbers for argument sake) 75% of the US gets coronavirus, but a third of that 75% never show any symptoms whatsoever, and another third present mild cold symptoms, and another third present more serious symptoms (anything from flu-like to death) that's a quarter of the US population with a relatively serious illness. If 10% of those require hospitalization, that's 2.5% of the US population requiring hospitalization. If 20% of those die, that's .5% of the US population dying, i.e. more than 1.5 million deaths.
These numbers may be wrong, but it just illustrates the problem with the "oh most people never even know they have it" security blanket.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
otm. cuomo laid this out very well today i thought.
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
Going back 21 years would probably be a 30 or 40 year positive for the UK post Brexit
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:07 (four years ago) link
This was a fun way to kill a minute:
covidnearyou.org
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
Confirmed case on Easter Island.
― coco vide (pomenitul), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
“I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter,” Trump said during a Fox News town hall broadcast from the Rose Garden at the White House.
So close!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:46 AM (thirty-two minutes ago)
nobody should be parroting any lines ginned up by Narendra fuckin Modi
― silby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
ffs
― silby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
he's probably figuring out how to use this as an excuse for starving several million muslims to death
yeah the easter island case isn't traceable either.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
just not really sure how this is all going to end really. talk of reopening countries and drifting back towards normality seems fanciful, whatever date you plug in: may? june? july? august? all seem unlikely. then we're starting the descent back towards winter and presumably another worldwide spike
― ||||||||, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
silby jeez I didn't say *credit* him
I mean let these people imagine their precious dow jones index at @2,000 e.g.
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
Yeah how do you prevent a new epidemic just ripping through a country or a region, even if its abated somewhere else?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
Sorry I know I just. Yeah.
― silby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
you....learn from the last one?
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
Hadn’t realised quite how relaxed Sweden was being on this. Much like the UK’s first, abandoned/belatedly accelerated plan https://www.thelocal.se/20200324/while-most-of-europe-is-in-lockdown-sweden-is-going-its-own-way
― stet, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
Boo hoo
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/nra-to-cut-salaries-brace-for-layoffs-as-coronavirus-disrupts-fundraising-internal-memo-states/2020/03/24/4a7d47ac-6d63-11ea-96a0-df4c5d9284af_story.html
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
Thoughts, prayers.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
heh
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
Good luck with that. Without widespread testing we could be seeing major cities moving in and out of lockdown for 18 months. Maybe it's better not to maintain the pretence of going back to normality in the first place.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link