outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

heh

you....learn from the last one?

Good luck with that. Without widespread testing we could be seeing major cities moving in and out of lockdown for 18 months. Maybe it's better not to maintain the pretence of going back to normality in the first place.

xp Matt DC:

Mostly travel restrictions.

Israel was first to call for a 14-day quarantine of all incoming travelers, including its own citizens. Visitors have to provide proof that they have a 14-day reservation at a hotel and means of paying before they can board inbound flights. That sort of siege mentality for all travelers has its merits, as so many transit through third nations. Some other countries have followed suit with the same policy.

There won't be short-term business, artist touring, family or leisure travel for quite a while, perhaps until a vaccine or effective treatment is available. International travel will be as time-consuming as centuries past.

And if this does become endemic in some countries (cough, the US) those sort of travel restrictions may extend well past the period of medical crisis. Its an order of magnitude worse for airlines than 9/11. None of those 737 Max planes will be needed.

Man, that first destination vacation is going to feel so good ... in 2027.

None of those 737 Max planes will be needed.

fsck getting on one of them anyhow

Thinking now about countries entirely dependent on destination tourism. Maldives, Aruba, Seychelles... Rough times ahead, and I can see how their leaders might be entertaining the "lets go endemic and get this over with" plan...

Many of the aforementioned are practically underwater now anyway, aren't they? Like, literally?

Holland America Cruise Sailing for Florida Has 87 Flu-Like Cases

Passengers, all with less than sound judgement, embarked in San Antonio, Chile 21 Mar and had a port of call in Coquimbo, Chile on 22 Mar. Seems they'll be missing shore excursions and jewelry/cigar/tourist crap shopping in Ecuador, Honduras, Panama, Aruba, and the Bahamas.

Is this the fourth, or fifth, cruise ship with an outbreak?

We’ve had more than that in Australia alone.

JH Christ, the Zaandam makes it 15 plague ships.

That list doesn’t appear to include the Costa Favolosa, responsible for 43 of Trinidad’s 57 cases.

.@GovAndyBeshear says that one person in Kentucky has tested positive after attending a coronavirus party

— Ben Tobin (@TobinBen) March 24, 2020

Congratulations?

wtf is a coronavirus party?

If they were the one who started the party then that's a pretty poor achievement tbf

lol

ppl getting deliberately infected with the 'vid to own the libs

i dreamt of going to kentucky the other night, and surprisingly that has not dissuaded me

one day of lockdown and you're desperate to party

kind of sighing right now thinking about the two dudes who had one of the large item carts at costco with about ten boxes of corona beers loaded up on it three weeks ago

First teenage death in the States:

http://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/us-coronavirus-updates-tuesday/index.html

Teenagers and kids is something nobody wants to even contemplate. (Not meant in any way to minimize the lives of over-60s, which I almost am myself.)

Freemantle is now up to 3 doomed cruise ships.

WTF is horse racing still going on in Australia. (someone at a horse racing thing in VIC is being testing for corona)

Horse racing is still going on in a lot of places, like Ireland.

It would be one thing if the horses were organising it themselves but I doubt this is happening

In other news SBS word news tells me that Indian police are making lockdown breakers do squats as punishment for going out.

Horse racing is still going on in a lot of places, like Ireland.

all sporting events banned as of yesterday

they should ban it now and never bring it back

The snakes and spiders have saved us. Apparently our vets have more ventilators per head of population than any other nation because of all the animals that get bitten.

> all the animals that get bitten.

The animals?

Gotta save those horses

that’s good to know, i’m asthmatic and it adds an extra level of concern

(oh, I missed the vet part)

Australian League finally cancelled? That just leave the Premier League in Belarus as last league standing, and they only started last weekend!

Hmm and a bunch of friendlies in Russia and Sweden

International - Club Friendlies

March 25

17' Saturn Ramenskoye 1 - 0 Rotor M Volgograd
11:00 Smena Kazan ? - ? Dinamo-18 Kazan
13:00 Kuban Holding Pavlovskaya ? - ? FK Chita
17:00 FC Odintsovo ? - ? Torpedo Zhavoronki
18:00 Oskarshamns AIK ? - ? FK Almeboda / Linneryd
18:00 Sandsbro AIK ? - ? Ingelstads IK
18:15 Skegrie BK ? - ? Uppakra IF

uk symptoms tracker: https://covid.joinzoe.com/

(full in daily even if well)

Thinking now about countries entirely dependent on destination tourism. Maldives, Aruba, Seychelles... Rough times ahead, and I can see how their leaders might be entertaining the "lets go endemic and get this over with" plan...

19,534 people applied for unemployment in my home state, Hawaii, today :(

i applied last week, but i'm ahead of the curve having been laid off last february

240,000+ in Australia so far, and that’s on top of everyone who was put out of work by the bushfires. It would be way more if the Centrelink site hadn’t been overwhelmed.

That’s not just tourism, that’s airlines and hospo and everyone all mixed together.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jackson-browne-tests-positive-coronavirus-972713/

Thread on Swedish deaths:

Out of the 15 that died of corona in stockholm six were persons of somali descent. I just got news from a friend in the ER stockholm that two more women of somali descent passed last night.

— Lovette Jallow 🇬🇲🇸🇪🏳️‍🌈 (@lovettejallow) March 24, 2020

Meanwhile, in the fourth largest country by population: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-indonesia-response/indonesias-health-system-on-the-brink-as-coronavirus-surge-looms-idUSKBN21C0J6

Indonesia has recorded 686 cases but the data is seen as understating the scale of infections because of a low rate of testing and a high mortality rate. Indonesia has reported 55 deaths, the highest in Southeast Asia.

A study by the London-based Centre for Mathematical Modelling of Infectious Diseases released on Monday estimates that as few as 2% of Indonesia's coronavirus infections have been reported. That would bring the true number to as many as 34,300, which is more than Iran.

Other modelers are projecting that cases could rise to as many as 5 million in the capital, Jakarta, by the end of April under a worst-case scenario.

fuck

Indonesia spent a lot of time denying they had any cases and they have a lot more tourism from China (and everywhere) it wouldn’t surprise me if they had way more cases than Iran.

the thing is the testing capacity problem just wasn't solved. it could be the case that arguments about how far we should go to contain this are purely academic, because we haven't gone anywhere. https://t.co/Y5QE457FRH

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) March 25, 2020

If only the USA… https://t.co/qwhiqwyTuj

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) March 25, 2020

I mean, Ireland absolutely will revert immediately afterwards, but the point is taken that there are some thoughts unthinkable in the US.

ventured out first time in a week (prescribed, essentials stock-up)

pharmacist amused by my ramshackle face mask (he asked why it had sticking plasters on it, was it official advice? actual reason = to hide the rude anti-trump message and hence dodge non-social-distancing bespittled arguments with hackney maga types, i gave him a brief version of this)

(he is a lovely man i see a lot of, given my meds regime, i worry for his safety and his staff's, they are all nice ppl)

no flour to be found (except like chickpea flour and similar)
some TP (scented but what can you do)
interestingly all the grated cheese is veg grated cheese
eggs are back (but i don't need em yet)

in general the local stores are well stocked i think

the hipster bakery place is still open! i didn't go in tho, i make my own bread now (extremely badly until my flour runs out)

hackney maga types

Words, usages, and phrases that dismay the shit out of you

I can vouch for chickpea flour btw, apart from using it in Indian breads (not that I personally know how do that) mixing it with other flours adds a bit of protein, or so I choose to believe

Gram flour is for pakoras (cheers for reminding me I have some pakora mix in my cupboard).