ireland have redesigned the conditions required in order for you to qualify for testing, you now need to be verified as displaying two symptoms (fever + one from coughing/shortness of breath)
seems a sensible step given limited tests and long delays for testing/results, at a certain stage confirming people have this is useless and you move to focus on who needs triaging into hospital/ICU
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Yeah, my sister has had to reapply after applying last week - by the time they get the test it'll be useless though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
daughter-in-law's 20-year-old niece is in critical ICU with double pneumonia and probably has this :(
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
Wishing her the best!
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
thanks, AF
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
damn, good luck to her
― brownie, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link
Good luck to her.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
oh no sleeve, i wish her a swift recovery
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
fingers crossed sleeve
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
Some good news in Italy - ventilators hacked together from scuba gear, following on from a project to repair broken ventilators.
https://dgiluz.wordpress.com/2020/03/23/its-working/
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
And here’s the whole toolkit on how to do it
https://www.isinnova.it/easy-covid19-eng/
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
social distancing is currently *not* happening in my clinic (where we're doing telehealth) and it's realllly starting to bug me out
― gbx, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
is there an armchair epidemiologist here who can attempt to explain infective probability relative to the number of transmitted virions?
i.e. if one were to inhale a thousand virions as opposed to a hundred (or in whatever volume they ordinarily transmit) is one then theoretically 10x more vulnerable?
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
the grim statistic i want to know is how many ppl have gotten it *despite* practicing social isolation (like, say, limited to going to the store or w/e)
― gbx, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
xp or: is there a certain threshold of "trace" bacteria beneath which infection is unlikely?
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
I honestly think most people probably have it at this point. I brought up the loss of taste/smell thing and apparently one of my co-workers hasn’t been able to smell or taste anything for three weeks but has no other symptoms. Now let’s just pretend she def has it - that would be three weeks of commuting, working, etc. how many people could you already have transmitted it to??
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
it's definitely not "most people"
― silby, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
Ok maybe not most but I think whole lot more than people realize. I think they will find that there’s a high percentage of carriers who are symptomatic or have symptoms that they don’t realizes are COVID related. This now makes three people I know who have completely lost their ability to smell and taste over the past month.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
the grim statistic i want to know is how many ppl have gotten it *despite* practicing social isolation
When you find out let us know, too, will ya?
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
counterpoint: we should be fine by easter, a perfect day― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:18 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglinkcounterpoint: no we are the best― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:18 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:18 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
counterpoint: no we are the best
def going to be interesting to see how don spins things if this is the trajectory, because he's always "all about the numbers"
probably going to say that the reduced price of oil is all his doing
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link
xp I was going to say "let us know too, will ya, but if it's a scary big number then write it in code somewhere where I don't have to scare myself"
but I guess if it's that high a number at least we can all just go to the damn shop and stop taking circuitous routes all over the place looking nervously round every corner
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link
best wishes to your family sleeve
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
Brilliant ENBB!
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link
oh, yes, sorry - good luck to your family, sleeve
and stay safe, ENBB
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
thx all and no worries if you missed it b4 posting, thread moves fast. I have never met the niece but the family is wonderful and they are very concerned. another stark reminder that youth does not confer immunity.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
yes, and that not everything merely short of dying is a picnic for anyone contracting it
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:23 (four years ago) link
that's what plays on my mind as a historical pneumoniac
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link
update!Apparently her test came back negative for Covid-19 🙏 However she is exhibiting all of the symptoms and the tests are supposedly not 100% accurate. Either way, she is not out of the woods yet. She is on a ventilator and the doctors are hoping she will begin to make progress with that and other treatments. She’s fighting. Thank you all for your love and positive energy
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
wishing all good things
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
best wishes to her and her family whatever it turns out to be
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
Not for the first time The Australian border force is trying to get people killed
These are concerning reports and images. The Government - specifically @PeterDutton_MP - needs to explain what is going on here, what protocols are in place at airports, and what directions are being given to @AusBorderForce #COVID19Aus https://t.co/XtDClMzker— Kristina Keneally (@KKeneally) March 25, 2020
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link
Seoul is 60% denser than New York and it has 334 cases. NYC alone has more cases than all of S Korea. https://t.co/LE3l52bxhM— T.K. of AAK! (@AskAKorean) March 24, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link
Of course you lie all the time but this one of the most violent and destructive lies you’ve ever told. https://t.co/tWNcAOfpIT— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) March 25, 2020
scare quotes around testing seem significant
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link
have to wonder (but probably shouldn't) if there are 8 or 10 senators ruing their impeachment votes rn
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
probably not!
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
8 or 10 senators ruing their impeachment votes rn
that is not how their minds work. they are ready to hop on the trump train or off it, depending on how their own state is trending, plus how soon they are up for re-election. they do not currently think they will die of this or anyone close to them. only when it hits close to home will they know the score, and by then it will be too late to flip the script.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 March 2020 00:47 (four years ago) link
This now makes three people I know who have completely lost their ability to smell and taste over the past month.
Now I am imagining an end of the crisis in which restaurants can reopen, but no one has a sense of taste anymore.
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
all the better for some restaurants then
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
brb, gotta buy some soylent stock.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
wow oxo really branched out huh
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link
starting tomorrow night the most populated communes in santiago, chile are under full 7 day renewable quarantine , where you need a permit ( i think you can get online) to leave your house to go to the market/pharmacy/doctor.
― Yerac, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link
and in other news Bolsonaro is very strong. he was an athlete.
― Yerac, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
Nice tune, lack of effective social distancing in the control booth.
https://youtu.be/PUHrck2g7Ic
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:30 (four years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-will-coronavirus-end/608719/
Great, really thorough, piece (focuses on the US but lots of interesting material on vaccine development)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:12 (four years ago) link
when I took the garbage down last night, sense of smell still intact
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
xpost That was a really good piece, but unless I missed it (entirely possible!) it doesn't stress the importance of testing people to see if *they already had it.* If 80% of people have mild to no symptoms, then it stands to reason that some huge number of people are shut inside for no reason, which makes their hypothetical immunity moot. Once people can be assured not that they don't have it but that they *had* it and are now likely ok (assuming this is the case, and there's no reason to assume otherwise) they can get out and about, do the shopping, go back to work, help others and so on. And as people confirm they've had it, that number of back to normal folks will grow bigger and bigger. Not herd immunity, per se, but an increasingly large herd that is immune, not worried about themselves, not taxing medical services, and so on.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
If 80% of people have mild to no symptoms, then it stands to reason that some huge number of people are shut inside for no reason
shut inside to avoid passing it on to those that haven't had it and may be vulnerable, right?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link
i think you're forgetting that the people who have had it and showed no symptoms can (and are) still passing it on to others
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
My understanding is that even if you've already had it and have had the antibody test to prove it, you might still be able to transmit the virus via contact with people who haven't, so there are dangers to it. Also if some people start treating it as a reason to break the lockdown then people who haven't had it will just start going out again.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link