withholding aid to California and New York
Now Michigan too - https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-gretchen-whitmer-michigan-coronavirus-feud-032411002.html
― brownie, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link
this really needs to be a bigger controversy but everybody's too distracted atm with, y'know...tryin to fuckin' eat
I can't fucking believe we have this piece of shit running things. He knows damn well the states can't procure the shit on their own and that innocent people will die, but hey, it's their fault for living in a fake news state, amirite
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link
I'm sure the people of Michigan who defected from Dem party in 2016 are going to show up for him in droves when 25% of their families die due to this
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
I was gonna say Michigan is lost to him now
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
2021 is gonna be awesome.
YAY, we're finally free of Trump! now we can go back to our lives!
oh we're in another bad recession! millions of people died!
thousands of positions are unfilled in various government sectors!
I mean....I'll still be happier than the opposite, but it feels like the new normal is every time a Democrat gets elected, they inherit a gigantic crisis.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
Glad everything is ok Roz.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
Meanwhile.
Things you didnt realize were true until they stopped - A South African refinery has stopped shipping gold to London because of a lack of commercial flights, adding to the disruption that’s upending the physical bullion market. @FelixNijinihttps://t.co/iCE7lccKaR pic.twitter.com/vklQWpDcq7— Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) March 28, 2020
IMO the US and other countries should do a reset, seize everybody's funds, then start everybody over with 20,000 dollars in their accounts.
including billionaires.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
I think I remember reading that in U.S. distribution of GDP (obv different than redistributing assets) would be 50-60K per person
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link
but rn i wld be down with 20 and my debt scrubbed
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-chloroquine-treat-coronavirus/just FYI the hydroxychloroquine stuff isn't quackery (UMN started investigating it a couple weeks ago), it's just unproven and trump should have kept his mouth shut
― gbx, Saturday, 28 March 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
Anyway first consult of the day was a capacity evaluation for a PUI and my second consult just now was identified as a PUI, so today's going well
― gbx, Saturday, 28 March 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link
O_o
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Saturday, 28 March 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
The Washington Post reports:
In a gaggle with reporters, President Trump said he is considering a quarantine on New York, parts of New Jersey and Connecticut. He said he might make a decision later today. It comes as the United States has become the epicenter of the novel coronavirus pandemic, with more than 100,000 confirmed infections and nearly 1,600 deaths.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
but first he has to follow through with his important plan to categorize the country into "high, medium, and low" risk areas. that way he can spend 5% of his time talking about quarantines and the other 95% focusing on how perfect the low-risk areas are
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
US have fucked it
― ||||||||, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link
utterly fucked it
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
some were asking could any country do worse than the UK's callous, lazy Herd Immunity bullshit.
trump: hold my steer
― calzino, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link
Just to be contrarian, it seems like plain fact that the "natural" level of spread is going to be different in differently structured places, and that given that we are not going to maintain this level of lockdown for six months I don't think there's any reason to think it's optimal to have the entire country on the exact same level of lockdown.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
Is the big dummy sort of having to work now?
Does he still get hours of “executive time”?
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link
xpost Yeah, really, it's best to think of each state as its own country. There is no one size fits all solution, different states (and their cities) will have different problems, to different degrees, at different times, calling for different solutions.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link
And maybe eventually enforced borders between them
― Mordy, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link
In many cases, fingers crossed!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
Sitting down to breakfast and perusing the weekly local papers that have accumulated. This one's from Feb 19th. https://ibb.co/qJcWNJz
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
I like looking at the thread bump:
this seems scary: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/19/asia/china-coronavirus-spike-intl-hnk/index.html― JoeStork, Monday, 20 January 2020 21:03 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglinkWe all gonna die and no one gives a fuck?― nostormo, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:32 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglinkthe population of the wuhan metropolitan area is like 20million and we're talking about only a few hundred cases currently, seemingly all or mainly from tainted meat consumption. i'm not worried― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:34 (two months ago)
― JoeStork, Monday, 20 January 2020 21:03 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
We all gonna die and no one gives a fuck?
― nostormo, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:32 (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
the population of the wuhan metropolitan area is like 20million and we're talking about only a few hundred cases currently, seemingly all or mainly from tainted meat consumption. i'm not worried
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:34 (two months ago)
― Yerac, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
Savage.
― coco vide (pomenitul), Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link
Gothamist:
When asked about Trump's remarks, Cuomo was disdainful and dismissive, telling reporters, "I didn’t speak to him about any quarantine... I haven’t had those conversations. I don’t even know what that means."
Another reporter asked if a "tri-state quarantine" was "a sound policy from your perspective or would you advise against it," Cuomo repeated, "I don’t even know what that means."
"I don’t know how that could be legally enforceable and, from a medical point of view, I don’t know what you would be accomplishing, but I can tell you I don’t even like the sound of it," he said. "Not even understanding what it is, I don’t like the sound of it."
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
Cuomo wasn't meant to like the sound of it. That was more Trump talking to his rural base who hate NY and the east coast, assuring them that he'd build them another wall to keep those China-virus-infected bastards away from The Real America (tm).
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
great interview with fauci, addressing many of the questions and worries expressed all over this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3jiM2FNR8
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
thx for that
― Nhex, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
imagine if the press conferences were just a version of that, every day, with reporters asking the questions
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link
RI and Kansas now have stay-at-home orders. Kansas!
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
That was more Trump talking to his rural base who hate NY and the east coast, assuring them that he'd build them another wall to keep those China-virus-infected bastards away from The Real America (tm)
Very true--and high on the list of incomprehensible things about that love affair is the awkward fact he's a New Yorker himself.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
I believe that status has been revoked
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link
we hated him first and he knows it
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link
This is politics. He has no legal right. https://t.co/SLSCgt7FBs— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 28, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
Article 4 of the Articles of Confederation; U.S. v. Wheeler, Crandall v. Nevada, etc.— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 28, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/weather/tornadoes-severe-storms-forecast-saturday/index.html
How do you deal with a tornado during this? Seriously.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
Shelter in basement.
― nickn, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
And I'm surprised Trump didn't threaten to quarantine California. We hate him too, and have a high rate of covid.
― nickn, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
Nobody is saying that. (clearly)
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
Which how did that happen?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link
Soon enough this will be the case in the US too. National guard is already staging in cities like #Baltimore (2nd time in 5 years) & it's not just to deliver ppl food. #NotDying4WallStreet #MartialLaw https://t.co/7jrbTyuCEu— Morgan Artyukhina (@LavenderNRed) March 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
USA123,351-Total Cases19,225-New Cases2,211-Total Deaths515-Day New Deaths https://t.co/Y0zt3Z19Cw— illuminate (@myworldmysun) March 29, 2020
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
Martial law and deployment of National Guard are not the same thing xpost
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
like there is a huge difference between bringing in the National Guard to assist local government and actually declaring martial law and making the military the local government and temporary suspending civil rights, habeas corpus, court martialing citizens, etc.
it may be a thin line to some, but it's a form of hell many of us haven't experienced and I hope not to.
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link
even right now, our mandatory "lockdown" here in Orange County isn't the type where cops are going to pull you over, ask you while you're out, and cite you (though I know that some places do have stringent measures like this in place).
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
Drove through DC a couple days ago; the streets around the Tidal Basin / cherry blossoms were blocked by... National Guard personnel, who were generally cheerful and everyone was keeping distances and being polite. I didn't get a Gilead vibe from it at all, but then I am local and have seen quite a bit of this sort of thing. Not on this scale, perhaps, but I came away from the experience with respect for my townspeople, not OMG ORWELLIAN DYSTOPIA.
― I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link