I prefer concision:
https://youtu.be/o6YWpujfqIg
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
That's good, I like that. Didn't like Lou Reed's Kennedy song at all (haven't heard it since it came out).
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link
I love the Lou Reed song. How about this one?:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ggtyT1TwL8
― morrisp, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:32 (four years ago) link
I love Negativland's "Richard Nixon Died Today." Which is a whole other thing.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
So many evocative posts---these t's like he's showing us that you can put your finger anywhere on the timeline and find a defining trauma, and all the art we make is a way for us to mourn.
this is well said and closer to what I was trying to get at upthread about "meaning"...that increasingly on later records the function of these references seems less denotative and more toward the end of flattening (?) everything—experiences, memories, histories—onto a single plane, in a single category, allowing him the necessary separation from it, the distance from which to eulogize
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII) just now (right after waking up) made me think of this----from bobdylan.com:
I Dreamed I Saw St. AugustineWRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN
I dreamed I saw St. Augustine
Alive as you or me
Tearing through these quarters
In the utmost misery
With a blanket underneath his arm
And a coat of solid gold
Searching for the very souls
Whom already have been sold
“Arise, arise,” he cried so loud
In a voice without restraint
“Come out, ye gifted kings and queens
And hear my sad complaint
No martyr is among ye now
Whom you can call your own
So go on your way accordingly
But know you’re not alone”
Alive with fiery breath
And I dreamed I was amongst the ones
That put him out to death
Oh, I awoke in anger
So alone and terrified
I put my fingers against the glass
And bowed my head and criedCopyright © 1968 by Dwarf Music; renewed 1996 by Dwarf Music
― dow, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
Believe it or not, the first Dylan song I fell in love with, in 1995, aged 25.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 29 March 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
What a great song. Bob had sort of sat out the 2010s, with only one album of original material. But this beats anything on Tempest, in my opinion.
To me the key line is "if you want to remember better write down the names" which he then commences in doing. It's a goodbye to the 20th century, as it fades from view. It reminds me of the last 30 minutes of The Irishman, which touches on the same ideas.
What a strange development. In the midst of a global pandemic, Bob Dylan once again assumes his role at the center of the culture, if only for a day or two.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 29 March 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link
For what it's worth, Love & Theft was released on 9/11/01, as noted here by monitor Greg Tate:https://www.villagevoice.com/2001/09/25/intelligence-data/
― dow, Monday, 30 March 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
this is masterful. feels like an entire album's worth of material somehow crammed into one long track. almost too much to take in at once. especially love the violin, which reminds me of astral weeks.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 March 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
also, i saw someone point out that
Slide down the banister, go get your coatFerry 'cross the Mersey and go for the throat
may contain buried references to guy banister and david ferrie, and now i can't unhear it
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 March 2020 02:19 (four years ago) link
That's great, missed that.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link
That's how I appreciate it -- a half-hearted concordance of JFK.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 March 2020 02:36 (four years ago) link
Well...like it or not, I don't hear anything half-hearted there.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:42 (four years ago) link
Even better, no Kevin Costner.
The only thing half-hearted about it would be a lack of willpower to edit it into something more powerful.
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Monday, 30 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
I don't know--I think its length is where so much of its power resides. It's like that 13-hour Rivette film, Out 1. You could edit it down drastically (even he did) and it's not like you'd lose any story, but then it wouldn't be Out 1 anymore.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
or editing Akerman
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
prevailing sense from nerd detectives at expectingrain.com is that while this might have been written around Tempest it is more likely a recent recording, even possibly in the last year
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
That’s interesting...
― morrisp, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
exciting if true! maybe still an album of originals left in the tank
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
that feels like the best explanation. the more I've listened and also listened to Tempest, I'm myself convinced it wasn't recorded during those sessions
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
i love this song
― treeship., Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
the litany of references at the end that somehow doesn't seem monotonous. sounsd like nothing i can think of except desolation row.
― treeship., Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link
Also cf. All the friends I ever had are gone.
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
("Delia")
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 April 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link
I wonder what dickie betts he has in mind , the Elizabeth Reed stuff or Jessica etc
― calstars, Friday, 3 April 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link
I think he says Blue Sky?https://youtu.be/lZg9MWLQ5_c
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 April 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
throw the gun in the gutter/and walk on by
the litany of references at the end that somehow doesn't seem monotonous. sounds like nothing i can think of except desolation row.
Reminds me a bit of "Chimes of Freedom," and I guess "Ring Them Bells" as well - but where those songs have big sweeping categories - "flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight," "Ring them bells sweet Martha for the poor man's son," this has a seemingly endless list of specific people.
Wait, I think we can go somewhere with this! Chimes of Freedom is his early period, when he was thinking in big sweeping hippie abstractions about freedom and justice. Ring Them Bells is roughly the same idea but in religious terms; the chimes of freedom have turned into bells calling us to worship and be saved. But this is a song that's partly about being at the end of your lifetime, when all those big abstract spaces have been filled in with the real things and people and works of art that you've engaged with in some way over the course of your life. So instead of the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale, we get Lindsey and Stevie Nicks. And in the place of the chimes of freedom, we have every song Bob Dylan has ever heard.
― The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Saturday, 4 April 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
I keep hearing "play it for Dead C and Stevie Nicks"
probably not but
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Number one on Billboard's Rock Digital Song Sales list!
― timellison, Thursday, 9 April 2020 06:08 (four years ago) link
The Guardian has dares to do this:
Bob Dylan's 50 greatest songs – ranked!
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/09/bob-dylans-50-greatest-songs-ranked
― Duke, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link
I didn't get beyond #46: Make You Feel My Love is one of his five worst songs ever.
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link
Yep, lots to disagree with. But that's the nature of lists like that
― Duke, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link
Sitting though “make you feel” by Adele is pure torture
― calstars, Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link
Number one on Billboard's Rock Digital Song Sales list!Apparently it’s Dylan’s first song to ever hit #1 on any Billboard chart (“under his own name”)
― morrisp, Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link
― Duke, Thursday, April 9, 2020 4:17 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
without looking i'm guessing "what can i do for you" didn't make the list which makes it invalid to me
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
interesting that "slow train" and "groom" did though
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
#today and #tomorrow,#skeletons and #nudes,#sparkle and #flash,#AnneFrank and #IndianaJones,#fastcars and #fastfood, #bluejeans and #queens,#Beethoven and #Chopin,#life and #death.https://t.co/o5VQKJ0NHx— bobdylan.com (@bobdylan) April 17, 2020
― morrisp, Friday, 17 April 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link
wtf!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link
God bless this weird motherfucker
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:46 (four years ago) link
fuck this is a great one
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 17 April 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link
Lol, Bob is the best.
I assume this means a new album is coming.
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Friday, 17 April 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link
I paint landscapesand I paint dudes
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 April 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link
I like how "dudes" is there so he can rhyme it with the title yet it still works.
This one is more ehhhh. As in, "Great, Bob, you remember what you read in elementary school English."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 April 2020 13:38 (four years ago) link
think it's "nudes" haha
― tylerw, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
lol
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Friday, 17 April 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
it's definitely nudes
― edgard varese-type beat (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 April 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
nude dudes with 'tude
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 April 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
i paint brosephsand i paint dudesplz send multitudes of nudes
― tylerw, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link