outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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i am going to limit myself to one post on this right now. keep in mind i just finished day 3 of an epic fight with my mom, who literally think this is a one world government conspiracy, that mark levin was sent special government ID cards and travel documents because they're going to establish concentration camps and different regions and they're trying to separate the "good" republicans from the rest of the country, and also says she doesn't trust "anyone" now, so she and my dad are "listen to our guts" from now on, and also the bible, of course, because this was all foretold and they're going to use coronavirus as a way to remake society in preparation for armageddon. so keep in mind i'm cranky and a little sick of people getting all confused about basic things and consistently pushing the limits of the most inadvisable, indefensible behavior because they just "don't know who to trust"

JUST STAY THE FUCK INSIDE YOUR HOME

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

i meant one post, after that post. here's my one:

JUST STAY THE FUCK INSIDE YOUR HOME

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

PS:

FUCK MARK LEVIN
FUCK RUSH LIMBAUGH
FUCK ALEX JONES
FUCK JAMES O'KEEFE
FUCK SEAN HANNITY
FUCK JERRY FALWELL
FUCK JERRY FALWELL JR
FUCK TURNING POINTS USA
FUCK FOCUS ON THE FAMILY
FUCK ANYONE WHO EVER THOUGHT ANYONE ON THE LIST ABOVE WAS TRUSTWORTHY, YOU CATASTROPHICALLY DUMB FUCKS

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

^^ currently listening to techno/ebm and I imagined hearing that post in a distorted robot voice over the music

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

♪ ♫ gonna dance the night away-ee-aaay♬
♩FUCK MARK LEVIN♫
♪ ♫ gotta dance the night away-ee-aaay♬
♩FUCK RUSH LIMBAUGH♫

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

tent hospital is a Franklin Graham operation, yes?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link

have fashioned a two-layer "mask" out of an old punk shirt for making deliveries. #aesthetic #chic #goals

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4rvnc1d.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

wheeeeeeee

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

Right-wing evangelist Jonathan Shuttlesworth, a close friend of Rodney Howard-Browne, says he intends to hold a large Woodstock-like Christian gathering in defiance of stay-at-home orders. pic.twitter.com/sn5Pvt1NA5

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) March 31, 2020

What is so broken in the minds of these evangelicals? Yes this individual asshat is likely attention/donation seeking, but I seriously don't understand this mass denial. Is this the hope of bringing on the second coming? This shit is baffling.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link

It is to pwn the libs.

Are you feeling pwn'd yet?

I met a strange baby, she made me nervous (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

got a sore throat if that helps

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

That poor 13-year-old and family
This is just awful and everything I read like this makes me more scared.

kinder, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

If we could ensure they gather and can't leave again, I'd say let stupid follow stupid. But in addition to carrying it all over the fucking country they'll take beds and ventilators from people who caught it actually working on the front lines and doing essential tasks. The massive death cult that powers 40% of this country continues to terrify me.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

What is so broken in the minds of these evangelicals? Yes this individual asshat is likely attention/donation seeking, but I seriously don't understand this mass denial. Is this the hope of bringing on the second coming? This shit is baffling.

coronavirus is their worst nightmare: it involves science and expertise, it involves global cooperation. seriously, for people like this it's just so closely associated with things they DO NOT WANT that their minds can't process it.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link

As silver linings go, that's not too shabby.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

seriously, for people like this it's just so closely associated with things they DO NOT WANT that their minds can't process it.

I don't know, pestilence, plague, end of the world, the apocalypse ... this seems like something they *would* want.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

but the temple hasn't been rebuilt in Jerusalem yet, the time hasn't come

lukas, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

If that was the case, they're not eager to stop it from happening. When everything is God's will, you're absolved from having to even try just the tiniest bit

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

xp well Trump moved the embassy there, what more do you want?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

Jesus has already come back like, five times, cops just murdered him during welfare checks all five

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

So Sweden has not implemented any restrictions? Despite a curve in line with everyone else's (in proportion)?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link

they decided everybody deserves COVID and are implementing a national spread program

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link

A long but layman-geared (i.e., to me) piece on trying to make sense of all the data and graphs.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-pandemic-data-primer-stats-charts-1.5513222

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link

sweden is imposing a nationwide re-enactment of the cliff scene in midsommar

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link

omg

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link

i know, spoilers, right

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link

Yesterday I got a tip that Hobby Lobby was secretly reopening stores and violating state-mandated closures. So I called all 39 stores in Wisconsin and Ohio and found that 36 of them reopened Monday. https://t.co/2ozUVpTcpk

— Bethany Biron (@bethanybiron) March 31, 2020

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link

Hey, scrapbooking is in our nation's lifeblood. Not to mention macrame and decoupage. Do you just expect people to stop crocheting? What kind of monster are you?

no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:31 (four years ago) link

I'm hearing that JoAnn Fabrics, Michael's, and Guitar Center (!?!) Have all remained open, citing various dubious excuses for why they are all essential.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

i want all of the execs of Hobby Lobby dead

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link

or at the very least, locked inside their own store, then boarded in

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

be compassionate. at least allow them one cask of amontillado to ease their transition to heaven.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link

where else will you buy that c-fold paper towel holder

crüt, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link

So the FFCRA being effective April 1 really fucks a lot of employees. That means companies aren't required to offer the paid sick leave require to 4/1. Anybody who was out on leave ptior is shit out of luck. So my friend whose quarantine ended today will not get it, and unemployment is only paying her $89 a week for the two weeks she was out because of how little she earned in the previous quarters.

Also learned today states can refuse the federal unemployment enhancement. Being that the DOL is funding it, I don't think most will, but i can see some "personal responsibility" red state doing it

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 03:36 (four years ago) link

See Roy Andersson's 2000 film Songs from the Second Floor to get a taste of where the Swedish plan is going to lead.

threnody for the victims of alan shearer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 08:20 (four years ago) link

I'm so worried about my family and friends in Sweden. This might get catastrophically bad.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link

this piece on how the lockdown is being implemented across the globe is grim as hell:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/apr/01/extreme-coronavirus-lockdown-controls-raise-fears-for-worlds-poorest

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:18 (four years ago) link

any excuse for a bit of state violence :(

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link

I'm so worried about my family and friends in Sweden. This might get catastrophically bad.

I hear you, Fred. I'm wondering if the Swedish woman I work with, who was trying to get flights back to Sweden for her and her children just before our work got shut down, made it back to Sweden - and if she's regretting it now.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link

One of the things I'm deeply worried about is the impact that the collapse in tourism is going to have on countries or regions that rely on it but experienced serious political instability within recent memory, particularly parts of South America, Asia etc.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:39 (four years ago) link

I'd include Portugal in that category.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106466188-1585556988689gettyimages-1208432583.jpeg?v=1585557109&w=1910

This photo feels bizarre: Stockholm, March 27th. But it feels just as bizarre to realise an image like this already feels bizarre.

I read this comparison on Danish site TheLocal, about the wildly different approaches of Denmark and Sweden: https://www.thelocal.dk/20200320/why-is-denmarks-lockdown-so-much-more-severe-than-swedens

It's anyone's guess I suppose but I have to admit I fear for my Swedish friends as well, reading that.

FT continuing to do good graph work:

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Don't know what to make of the Swedish approach. My GF is Swedish, so she's in constant contact with extended family in the Stockholm suburbs. They all seem to be taking it seriously - social distancing, kids out of school, grocery deliveries, WFH, avoiding the city - but they know that's not the norm. Seems to be gentlest of advisories, with the longest lead-time on bringing down the hammer of any EU country (I think they will, eventually).

(It's not something we talk about too much, it's too stressful; she's just been furloughed for eight weeks as a result of this anyway).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:08 (four years ago) link

If the Chinese numbers are accurate (gigantic if I know) then that Italy levelling off is heartening and suggests there might be a decline coming soon. Obviously China has been far more draconian in its approach to the lockdown.

I don't understand the aversion to locking down early. All evidence seems to be that social distancing works and if you lock down when the virus is less widespread then ultimately you don't have to do it for as long? Sweden will surely have to follow everyone else sooner or later and when they do it will take months becuase the rate of transmission will have been so much higher. And that's not taking into account the thousands of preventable deaths.

What's Swedish healthcare capacity like relative to the population size? I guess that has an effect as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link

Supposedly it's very good, excellent in fact. And I think that is what they are banking on. But they are playing hazard. My family is taking it very serious as well, but my uncle is a doctor, so I don't think staying at home is an option here, and his health has never been good.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

ahem

On a slightly unrelated note, I still have no idea what Sweden's game plan is.

― coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:23 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

*lagom plan

― Microbes oft teem (wins), Monday, 30 March 2020 19:27 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Microbes oft teem (wins), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link

Healthcare only goes so far for an untreatable disease. We're trying to tell friends and family in Japan to get ahead and isolate now, not sure it's entirely getting through though.

threnody for the victims of alan shearer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link


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