i spent the last year and a half converting our garage into a habitable space with a bathroom and we finally got a sofa in there this week and after one day of working out there away from my family I actually feel like I'm 'working' again after a month. i love my family but they have no boundaries when I'm at home and visible.
― akm, Thursday, 2 April 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
akm can I come work in your garage
― silby, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link
I have done very little all day
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link
this scenario happens in-office all the time but seems to be much more prevalent via remoteHEY THERE’S A FIRE PUT IT OUT ASAPMe, a firefighter: ok where is the fireHANG ON A MINUTEok send me details asap so i can take care of it......hey do you have detailsSTILL CHECKING, PLEASE WAIT FOR MY INFOok....(later)I SEE THAT THE FIRE IS NOT OUT YET, DID I MISS SOMETHING?
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
i can and am getting all my work done from home, no bother
but i feel like i could spend the rest of my life trying to get the remote desktop window to fit my extended monitor and its still gonna have an inch either side and its destroying my soul minute by minute
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
I SEE THAT THE FIRE IS NOT OUT YET, DID I MISS SOMETHING?
otm
also otm
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
My (government-issued) laptop has locked down Skype to just text, no phone or video. Now my manager wants us to install Microsoft Teams on our personal laptops/other devices. I assume videoconferencing is on the horizon.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
I have one guy in my team who fucks up joining Skype meetings every single time. Today I ended up with an IT guy phoning him and screen sharing to talk him through what buttons to click while the rest of us waited patiently and listened to half of the conversation because IT guy stayed in the Skype unmuted the entire time.
We'll do it all again on Monday.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
I shaved my beard into a handlebar mustache for two videoconferences’ worth of comedy value today. Tomorrow everyone just won’t recognize me since I’m now barefaced for the first time in over a year.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link
WFH is working out better than I thought. Getting an extra hour of sleep due to no commute makes a huge difference.
Y’all got some crazy micromanagers. We’re not really “working from home”, we’re “trying to survive and just keep all the shit we oversee from breaking without actually creating anything useful”
Which is better: Skype, Zoom, or Teams? Asking for an IT Department.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
OMG, the TP thing. Reminds me of the times I was so poor I stole TP from work. And that office TP is so thin and brittle, I don't think it lasts as long.
― Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
Getting an extra hour of sleep due to no commute makes a huge difference.
Absolutely. I had to get up at 5 this morning because on Thursdays I do laundry before work, but other than that, yeah.
Lots of articles around stating that Zoom is basically spyware and that the company gives access to any cop that asks for it. I have been using Teams the last couple of weeks and don't hate it. We also use WebEx once a week for a two-hour team meeting.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 April 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
Skype > Teams > Zoom > Webex > Gotomeeting
I think.
In five-ish years of using Skype for everything (IM, presence, voice, and meetings) I had very little trouble.
Webex gives me headaches like two or three times a week. I hate it. I cannot understand why my company has Skype for presence and IM but won't use it for conferencing.
Teams, I believe, is functionally a front-end for a combination of the worst features of SharePoint, Skype, a bad version of wiki, and a bad chat room. I haven't warmed to it but I am pretty sure it can't suck less than webex.
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:00 (four years ago) link
I think I meant can't suck MORE than Webex, sorry
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:02 (four years ago) link
Which is better: Skype, Zoom, or Teams? Asking for an IT Department.Teams by a long shot. Skype is a wasteland of drops and breakups, Zoom is a security nightmare right now.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:05 (four years ago) link
Teams is better than any in-house frontend for SharePoint I’ve ever experienced. The discussion board and wiki functions are weak compared to purpose-built stuff but they’re serviceable
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link
Teams is great, super fast & easy to use
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link
Ok Tom + Veg.
I worked at Microsoft exactly when Lync was shading into Skype for Business. Teams was just starting to be a thing when I left; they were shaking out the bugs. Hence my affection for Skype as opposed to Teams. Haven't tried it in a while but I guess I should. True UC in one package may be a distant dream.
Still think WebEx blows dead bears, btw.
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah WebEx is trash
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
Also I would bet money somebody actually thought about “what UI color profile makes most folks look OK during a videoconference” and that’s why Teams defaults to warm purple
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:22 (four years ago) link
"Warm purple" sounds like a strain of boutique weed
Which is what I will need to get through my next 37 conference calls
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
hi im the expert on Teams in my organisation, ama
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:25 (four years ago) link
nb
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:26 (four years ago) link
i was appointed today
what the fuck is teams
crash course welcome because management board is in 8 hours ty x
(you don't really need to tbh, ill bluff it pretty comfortably)
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
Teams is an app
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
uh huh
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
great, great, gimmme three more pieces that good and ill spin an hour and probly a promotion tbh keep it comin
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
It’s the purple one, with a T. Click on it
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
killer
a t, got it
right or left click?
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
the training I start next week = for a high profile client who met with our CEO to ensure we would meet their needs and we've been told there's "no room for error".
bitches...right now IT has 2 hour waits for CHAT SUPPORT and hangs up after 30 minutes on the phone, tickets go unresponded to. so when there's a problem, we have little chance of resolving it the same day. we also can't have people sit with other learners if their computer doesn't work because they're all working at home.
and VPN technology for our partner sites is notoriously spotty for WFH employees, to the point where the person I taught the other day got bumped out of it for two hours and screamed "JESUS CHRIST!" during my training the last time it happened.
there will be error. lots of it. you and the stupid client will have to deal with it.
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
I might finally get to send a passive aggressive email detailing how little I care. it's been a while.
Click on chat and start a new chat with me, your Teams expert. Congratulations you can now chat. Click on Teams and start a new conversation. Great. Now click on reply. You’ve discovered how to thread. Go to calendar. See those meetings? Beautiful. Go back to teams. Click on wiki. It works like a wiki. Now start a new thread. Click the paperclip. Attach a file (something family friendly). Say something about the file. Hit send. Go to files. There’s your file!
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link
but can i have your sister emale
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
The above is an illustration of why teams is both good and also bad not good, because we have some folks (ok, one dude) who are relentless about fucking it up
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
The extent to which Teams a frontend for SharePoint has to do with the "attach a file" thingy Tom mentions - somewhere there is a Sharepoint site with that file in it. I will never not want to got to _that_ site and see it in a nice normal directory where I can sort by date modified and see the versioning history and enable co-authoring.
Haven't used it much for conferencing so if other folks are ok with it I will give it another try.
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
ok heres one for ye
what the fuck is onenote *for*?
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link
Dude I don’t know but a lot of my classmates used it last year and afaict it did them no favors except maybe saving on pens and proper notebooks
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 01:08 (four years ago) link
Even the professional services people we employ just fire up Word to capture meeting minutes etc
― El Tomboto, Friday, 3 April 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link
I fucking HATE OneNote
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link
we abandoned it shortly after we rolled it out
what is it for? damned if I know
ok thats a quorum, congrats we just cancelled onenote in this entire ministry
while ye have me, what else would ye like me to kill
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
I never understood OneNote when at Microsoft and still don't. Like, you type stuff into it. And it's, like, there. Ok great why can't I just do that in Word or Notepad or, heck, a PIECE OF PAPER
― no one ever is to blave (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
hint: weve a pack of wild animals in athlone still using lotus notes
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
it was difficult to use, we put agendas in there for meetings and that was about it.
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
lol we have Lotus Notes but we don't really put new things in it. it's just that it has 20+ years of archived stuff that we haven't all moved other places
Out of office autoreplies
― silby, Friday, 3 April 2020 01:15 (four years ago) link
half the people at my company either use specific dates in their OOO message and forget to update them each time, so you'll be in October seeing someone's message assuring you they'll be back on July 5th.
or they leave them on like a week after they return, confusing everyone.
― narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link
afaict re onenote there's some functionality that lets you tags docs for better cross-reference or some shit but rly it was def not worth the time taken to learn it let alone pay for the product or training or roll out or following up
essentially the same flaw with everything office has rolled out since pivot tables
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link