outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

Trying to think if I've ever heard the phrase spring break in any context other than pornography or disease

or "Spraaaaaaaaaang Break"

lol at the thought of rallies happening anytime before election day.

Trump will 100% hold rallies before election day, are you kidding me? It's taking the entire might of the White House staff to hold him back from putting one on tomorrow.

nah, he's pivoted to the COVID-briefings for proxy-rally messaging.

It's taking the entire might of the White House staff to hold him back

https://i.ibb.co/ngTqzDR/11217344.jpg

nah, he's pivoted to the COVID-briefings for proxy-rally messaging.

I don't think this is going to satisfy him forever, especially when the Nielsen ratings inevitably declines, he needs to hear the people hollering

Bananaman, were you not once an elementary school student?

A brief distraction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT9zRmS_tqk

xp british iirc

Cat-to-cat transmission demonstrated.

Coronavirus can infect cats — dogs, not so much

if it had to be one of them, that is very good news that it's with cats, rather than dogs

at least for those of us with indoor only cats

do they also... stop being infected again afterwards, in time?

(ok the article says it's probably unlikely that they'll get it or that they'll transmit it, so hopefully it won't come to that, but, great, a new thing to worry about)

Textbook example of the classic "is it worse if he's lying or telling the truth" dilemma.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/02/governor-brian-kemp-georgia-coronavirus-sanjay-gupta-anderson-cooper-nr-vpx.cnn

wtfffffffff. It's not even like that's a trait unique to this virus.

WOW.

that is amazing. for those that haven't clicked, the gov of georgia, Brian Kemp, says he just learned within the last 24 hours that coronavirus can be spread before people show symptoms. and that's why he's doing the more strict containment measures, now.

just, holy shit.

as the CNN medical corresponded noted, the CDC is IN ATLANTA

the Peter Dumbass Principle for guvs

Third story on NPR hourly news:

They're making a bobblehead of Fauci.

NY state is considering the option of putting two patients on the same ventilator. This is taking roommate culture to new territory.

Here is where linguistic nuance comes to the rescue. Gov. Brian Kemp was told that coronavirus can be spread before people show symptoms repeatedly in the past several weeks, but he only learned this in the past 24 hours.

lol

give a man a symptoms can be spread asymptomatically and he'll spread asymptomatically for a day. teach a man symptoms can be spread asymptomatically and he'll symptoms asymptomatically for a lifetime

xp: TBF, everyone on mechanical ventilators is sedated to not care, and on muscle relaxants to inhibit voluntary movement. Think of it as being roommates with someone who shares a K-hole obsession. You might notice them once a week.

AFAICT, the main limitation on multiple patients/ventilator is that everyone has to share similar lung tidal volume. Children with children, big men with big men...

Children with children, big men with big men...

Thank goodness children are the cohort least affected by the infection.

NY state is considering the option of putting two patients on the same ventilator. This is taking roommate culture to new territory.

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:09 PM (thirty-four minutes ago)

glanced at something earlier that said that NYC will run out of available ventilators in <8 days.

six more days https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/02/new-york-ventilators-coronavirus-andrew-cuomo

been looking for places who are making masks and selling them to subsidize production of masks to donate. So far I've only found Hedley and Bennet, who have a factory that usually makes chef aprons and have switched over to making fabric masks: https://www.hedleyandbennett.com/pages/wakeupandfightmask

NY state is considering the option of putting two patients on the same ventilator. This is taking roommate culture to new territory.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:09 PM (thirty-four minutes ago)

glanced at something earlier that said that NYC will run out of available ventilators in <8 days.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:45 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

friend is a nurse in the nhs and was already briefed a week or so ago that they would be arriving at a stage where they would run out of ventilators and people who were over 65 and with comorbidities would not be given one

A cousin of mine runs a US-based factory that makes cushions. They are making masks in order to keep their doors open: https://fallrivermask.com/

Marine Layer is allowing you to just buy a bunch of masks for essential workers: https://www.marinelayer.com/products/ml-mask-donation-2020-v1

this seems … new, at least from these sources

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html

I've sort of assumed this would be the case, they're not telling us to keep 2 meters away from each other in case we put our hands in each other's mouths

i ordered a balaclava mask today

Honey is natures' disinfectant.

I should've bought stock in the temporary signs/banners industry. Every restaurant has a STILL OPEN! CURBSIDE TAKEOUT banner now.

There are enough caveats and hedge words in that CNN piece to drive a person insane. Right down to the doctor who says he's going to wear a mask to the store, but "I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those."

What happened to not taking ibuprofen, is that still a thing? Was that ever a thing? Was that ever based on more than one small sample group study, if not just a tweet?

So much for RADM Crozier.

The commander of a US aircraft carrier that has been hit by a major outbreak of coronavirus has been relieved of command days after writing a memo warning Navy leadership that decisive action was needed to save the lives of the ship's crew.

Shouldn't make your president look bad, sorry your crew is dying.

An aircraft carrier, a cruise ship, same difference. Big floating box of sick people. Can't have that. Loojs bad.

Looks

Won't anyone think about the numbers?

Here is where linguistic nuance comes to the rescue. Gov. Brian Kemp was told that coronavirus can be spread before people show symptoms repeatedly in the past several weeks, but he only learned this in the past 24 hours.

― A is for (Aimless)

Kemp complained, "How could I have known?! Why didn't anybody tell m....I mean, make me learn?!"

i tell you, we will get to the bottom of who refused to make me learn

Weren't there viral (oh that poor word) photos from January of people dying on the streets of Wuhan? I remember some shot of a man on the floor of a subway car and the other riders all backed up away from him.

At the time, it seemed so much more instantaneous than two weeks, but maybe I've been fooled by the internet again.

This is stunning. It appears deaths are being dramatically undercounted in Spain and Italy. pic.twitter.com/O6R4gOhu4M

— Ben Judah (@b_judah) April 2, 2020

Maybe, maybe not...but if debate in the comments. The methodology will be debated for a long time

I'm starting to settle into a resigned pessimism about this. The US is dysfunctional and incapable of doing the things that experts say would make the most difference -- universal lockdown, widespread testing, etc. A vaccine will take a long time, and in the meantime any treatment improvements will be piecemeal/patchwork. Jared Fucking Kushner is "coordinating" our federal effort, i.e. there is no coordination. New York is doing at least a serviceable job, but it started far too late and meanwhile there are still 10 or so states that aren't doing shit. I think this is going to be longer and more deadly than we are being told right now. And the potential economic contagion just boggles my mind.

I agree with all that, about the USA. And it's not the deadliness of this disease that's most on my mind; it's its consequences for the American economy, by which I don't mean GDP or really anything particularly quantitative, but rather, how the way Americans have to live, the way Americans lives are structured (housing, health care, education): that's "the economy", and the depth of the disruption to that has hardly begun to sink in.

The problem in the US is not just that there never was a plan but that there still is no plan, as such, and no indication the government is competent enough to come up with a plan. But I really doubt most if any countries have a real plan, either, and that's sort of what's both frightening and disheartening about the whole ordeal. Whenever this is done it will be far from done, and when it gets to the economic recovery stage, whenever that happens, we're going to see some real bullshit on a monumental scale, and I have no idea what the world will look like when the bullshit dries.

The USA has almost no national solidarity (the emptiness of troop worship is as close as it gets), and that deprives the nation of even conceiving of "a plan", by which, how to move past this crisis. The American plan will be "how things were before", and for the millions whose jobs will never be the same (if they have jobs at all), what was before will never be again. And what for them? We know the answer.