How will you vote in the Labour Leadership election?

I remember a pretty solid video from Dodds on QT, some potential there.

Nick Thomas-Symonds as shadow home secretary
Jo Stevens as foreign secretary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBC-1UzkIW0

I am impressed that Dodds isn't the toxic and beyond salvageable piece of garbage that is Reeves, but that is a very low bar which was either part of the cunning plan or the Reeves talk was just pressure/wishful thinking from the right.

it's depressing to see so many ppl leave the party, some of whom are going to be leaving electoral politics for good, but it's also depressing to see so much meaningless talk and speculation by ppl who will never do more than stand on the sidelines. looking at what i could buy with saved membership subs is quite tempting tho

News just in. Jo Stevens is a TERF.

Thanks to @takumasgirl for asking the important questions pic.twitter.com/GIRCJrI8l0

— Ben (@artofstumbling) March 9, 2020

it's depressing to see so many ppl leave the party, some of whom are going to be leaving electoral politics for good, but it's also depressing to see so much meaningless talk and speculation by ppl who will never do more than stand on the sidelines.

Yeah, that's a good way to persuade people to vote Labour.

tom if I can stop you voting labour by piercing your paper thin skin it would be my honour

No idea what you're talking about but, OK, if you don't want people to vote Labour then that's nice to know.

Good fucking luck with your committee meetings on extra bin rounds.

Labour meetings have been pretty exciting so far no need to knock it now.

you might not fully understand but you don't have no idea what i'm talking about - you are offended because you feel guilt over being politically inert

Believe me I feel no guilt whatsoever about never being a member of the Labour Party. What a ridiculous statement to make about someone you don't even know.

I don't know you either, to be fair, so maybe you're not a sanctimonious cunt irl.

Yeah I have no idea why you thought that was about you, Tom. Regardless, it’s quite a thing to be all folded-arms, “try winning my vote” when people have died and are dying because there isn’t a Labour government, and the previous leadership who were trying to get one to better the country was painted as actively dangerous and traitorous the whole time.

Er, I didn't think it was about me.

congrats on your emotions tom, please call me a cunt one more time and then never try to read or respond to my posts again

Try reading your post at 16.07 then, cos that’s very much how it comes across.

Think Labour are going to be ok without your vote in the people’s republic of Islington.

Ha, too right! (xp) Well, that's the internet for you!

congrats on your emotions tom, please call me a cunt one more time and then never try to read or respond to my posts again

Go and pin a poster up, why don't you, feel a bit better about yourself

Fucks sake, I know we’re all bored but log off, this is a fucking mess.

lol this reminds me when i get drunk on gin and start shouting at my (you’re not my) friends.

usually over politics too now i come to think of it.

the last time was about palestine with a couple of really nice friends around a vegas pool. shouting about corbyn at them (“f’ing typical centrists”). nagl in retrospect tho we were all f’ing drunk.

sorry for offending tom, I'm not saying you have to do anything, just that the pointlessness of speculative waffling is v striking and the gap between that an participation seems particularly egregious at times like this where there are v few meaningful things to be done

OK, and I'm sorry for attacking you, I'm sure you're doing a lot of good things in your community and I hope you carry on doing it - sincerely. Different strokes etc.

It's Starmer who should be apologising tbf!

it's depressing to see so many ppl leave the party, some of whom are going to be leaving electoral politics for good

One of the things that's been interesting since I joined was talking to people who left and stayed out of Labour for about 10-15 years before coming back in 2015/6 so hopefully that will be true for some people as well. One of the many striking things is Corbyn as the permanent stayer who just keeps going, and, while I have seen a lot of disappointment and heartbreak on the timeline that aspect can rub off on people too in the coming days and weeks.

The left will be needed to keep Starmer accountable because he will be under a lot of pressure to be pulled to the right.

Lucy Powell says no, members should have invincible conviction in the leader and anything less would make them wreckers ..erm like she was.

I still want to know who are the dodgy billionaire donors Starmer was too embarrassed to disclose during the LE. Knowing whose pocket the slippery cunt is in is still very pertinent info that should be out there.. global pandemic doesn't change that.

the latest Private Eye says that the Starmer campaign received a £25,000 donation from this guy: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-6973517/AA-finance-boss-nicknamed-sledgehammer-quits-support-anti-Brexit-party-Change-UK.html

The AA's finance boss has quit after five years so he can devote his time to anti-Brexit party Change UK.

Martin Clarke has stepped down immediately and does not have another job.

He previously worked for private equity companies, where his robust approach earned him the nickname 'the sledgehammer'.

He was accused of bullying – which he denies – by former chief executive Bob Mackenzie, who was sacked following a punch-up in 2017.

In a statement, the finance director said: 'For me, now is the right time to return to my twin passions of private investing and politics.'

Clarke, 62, was a long-time Labour supporter and previously donated money to Yvette Cooper, and has been a vocal critic of Jeremy Corbyn.

But he is also a close friend of Chuka Umunna, who founded Change UK alongside six other anti-Brexit MPs, and is known to have switched allegiance.

I just read this tweet and now you all have to read it too

I just rejoined the Labour Party. So sad about the wasted opportunities and the moral disgrace of the last five years. But so happy to have a new leader who can put things right. Congratulations @Keir_Starmer 🌹

— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) April 4, 2020

maybe I'm forgetting but I don't think there are any mechanisms for members to be involved with for the next couple of years beyond conference delegates and local elections

omg it can only be a matter of time until Chuka is welcomed back into the "labour family"!

Robinson and Barber have both reapplied, they haven’t rejoined. They still need to get through Compliance.

"moral disgrace" he says

I'm wondering who's going to be the most high profile centrist to be snubbed when the Shadow Cabinet is announced. The smart money is on Wes Streeting.

Just imagining his disappointment is sustaining my mood right now.

Is he high profile anywhere other than Twitter?

He's on telly a lot, or certainly seems to be.

Fair enough.

I’m going to controversially suggest Jess will miss out.

Haha yeah probably. Maybe all those Did Not Votes were legions of disappointed people who signed up to vote for her. Or just prime Joining The Gym In January types.

Fair play to Boris for offering Keir Starmer "Minister for Coronavirus Strategy and Hospital equipment rationing", one of the great offices of state.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) April 4, 2020

lol!

of the old bastards I could imagine Peter Dowd and Andy McDonald maybe being on the shortlist.

I imagine even Tom D might chuckle at that Hedges post!

Andy McDonald is a very solid, dependable performer. I don't think anyone outside the media takes Wes seriously. yep, sounds familiar!

also he's from a law background of course

Frances Barber will have to be bounced off for blatant and proud Islamophobia (there are loads of vile tweets) and she’s also a great big honking TERF.

Congratulations Sir Keir Starmer. New leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/1sqrTiL3Jm

— Balderdash (@notDcfcBoss) April 4, 2020