usually over politics too now i come to think of it.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
the last time was about palestine with a couple of really nice friends around a vegas pool. shouting about corbyn at them (“f’ing typical centrists”). nagl in retrospect tho we were all f’ing drunk.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
sorry for offending tom, I'm not saying you have to do anything, just that the pointlessness of speculative waffling is v striking and the gap between that an participation seems particularly egregious at times like this where there are v few meaningful things to be done
― ogmor, Saturday, 4 April 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
OK, and I'm sorry for attacking you, I'm sure you're doing a lot of good things in your community and I hope you carry on doing it - sincerely. Different strokes etc.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
It's Starmer who should be apologising tbf!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link
it's depressing to see so many ppl leave the party, some of whom are going to be leaving electoral politics for good
One of the things that's been interesting since I joined was talking to people who left and stayed out of Labour for about 10-15 years before coming back in 2015/6 so hopefully that will be true for some people as well. One of the many striking things is Corbyn as the permanent stayer who just keeps going, and, while I have seen a lot of disappointment and heartbreak on the timeline that aspect can rub off on people too in the coming days and weeks.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
The left will be needed to keep Starmer accountable because he will be under a lot of pressure to be pulled to the right.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
Lucy Powell says no, members should have invincible conviction in the leader and anything less would make them wreckers ..erm like she was.
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link
I still want to know who are the dodgy billionaire donors Starmer was too embarrassed to disclose during the LE. Knowing whose pocket the slippery cunt is in is still very pertinent info that should be out there.. global pandemic doesn't change that.
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
the latest Private Eye says that the Starmer campaign received a £25,000 donation from this guy: https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-6973517/AA-finance-boss-nicknamed-sledgehammer-quits-support-anti-Brexit-party-Change-UK.html
The AA's finance boss has quit after five years so he can devote his time to anti-Brexit party Change UK.Martin Clarke has stepped down immediately and does not have another job.He previously worked for private equity companies, where his robust approach earned him the nickname 'the sledgehammer'.He was accused of bullying – which he denies – by former chief executive Bob Mackenzie, who was sacked following a punch-up in 2017.In a statement, the finance director said: 'For me, now is the right time to return to my twin passions of private investing and politics.'Clarke, 62, was a long-time Labour supporter and previously donated money to Yvette Cooper, and has been a vocal critic of Jeremy Corbyn. But he is also a close friend of Chuka Umunna, who founded Change UK alongside six other anti-Brexit MPs, and is known to have switched allegiance.
Martin Clarke has stepped down immediately and does not have another job.
He previously worked for private equity companies, where his robust approach earned him the nickname 'the sledgehammer'.
He was accused of bullying – which he denies – by former chief executive Bob Mackenzie, who was sacked following a punch-up in 2017.
In a statement, the finance director said: 'For me, now is the right time to return to my twin passions of private investing and politics.'
Clarke, 62, was a long-time Labour supporter and previously donated money to Yvette Cooper, and has been a vocal critic of Jeremy Corbyn.
But he is also a close friend of Chuka Umunna, who founded Change UK alongside six other anti-Brexit MPs, and is known to have switched allegiance.
― soref, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
I just read this tweet and now you all have to read it too
I just rejoined the Labour Party. So sad about the wasted opportunities and the moral disgrace of the last five years. But so happy to have a new leader who can put things right. Congratulations @Keir_Starmer 🌹— Tony Robinson (@Tony_Robinson) April 4, 2020
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
maybe I'm forgetting but I don't think there are any mechanisms for members to be involved with for the next couple of years beyond conference delegates and local elections
― ogmor, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
omg it can only be a matter of time until Chuka is welcomed back into the "labour family"!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
Robinson and Barber have both reapplied, they haven’t rejoined. They still need to get through Compliance.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
"moral disgrace" he says
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
I'm wondering who's going to be the most high profile centrist to be snubbed when the Shadow Cabinet is announced. The smart money is on Wes Streeting.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
Just imagining his disappointment is sustaining my mood right now.
Is he high profile anywhere other than Twitter?
― ShariVari, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
He's on telly a lot, or certainly seems to be.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
Fair enough.
I’m going to controversially suggest Jess will miss out.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link
Haha yeah probably. Maybe all those Did Not Votes were legions of disappointed people who signed up to vote for her. Or just prime Joining The Gym In January types.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
Fair play to Boris for offering Keir Starmer "Minister for Coronavirus Strategy and Hospital equipment rationing", one of the great offices of state.— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) April 4, 2020
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
lol!
of the old bastards I could imagine Peter Dowd and Andy McDonald maybe being on the shortlist.
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link
I imagine even Tom D might chuckle at that Hedges post!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Andy McDonald is a very solid, dependable performer. I don't think anyone outside the media takes Wes seriously. yep, sounds familiar!
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
also he's from a law background of course
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
Frances Barber will have to be bounced off for blatant and proud Islamophobia (there are loads of vile tweets) and she’s also a great big honking TERF.
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link
Congratulations Sir Keir Starmer. New leader of the Labour Party. pic.twitter.com/1sqrTiL3Jm— Balderdash (@notDcfcBoss) April 4, 2020
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
If you can't beat 'em join 'em
But it was worth it because they gave him pride of place on *checks notes* page 10, under the fold from some awful bollocks from Camilla Long. pic.twitter.com/6SVQbqkMLE— jimmy mcnulty (@j1mmymcnulty) April 5, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 April 2020 08:17 (four years ago) link
Lock thread:
The election of Sir Keir Starmer to lead Britain’s Labour Party is posing a pointed linguistic dilemma for the Persian media & Iranian gov. When written out in Farsi, ‘Sir Keir’ translates as “bell end” or “tip of the penis”. If Starmer becomes PM, Iran may have to blur him out?!— Ali Alizadeh (@Ali7adeh) April 5, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
really hope that's true but waiting for confirmation from Rory
― Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
loool!
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
well-played
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
Print the legend imo
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
Magnificent.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
Nandy gets Shadow Foreign Sec. Possibly where she will do the least damage, idk, but disappointing she has one of the big roles.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link
She seems more the Home Secretary type, so a good thing she hasn't been given that job.
― Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
Supported intervention in Libya iirc. How did that end up?
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
"Rachel Reeves Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster"
ugh!..fucking ridiculous, she shouldn't be anywhere near this cabinet. I'm never going to vote for a party with evil twats like her in front bench positions.
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link
opened up huge new opportunities for entrepreneurially-minded human resource traders iirc, a real victory for the free market xp
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
fuck everyone trying to shame people into sticking with this dogshit party
― aaaaeeeeeeoooooooowwww (Left), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
Just really interesting the people appointed to more senior roles than RLB.
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
great screen-name/content synergy there
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
er, xp
I like the cut of this new poster's jib!
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link
you’ll need to work harder than that to convince me that ‘left’ isn’t a calz sock
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
is it heck man!
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
I haven't got the energy for darning new tootsie warmers!
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2018-09/25/12/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web-06/anigif_sub-buzz-32722-1537894484-2.gif?downsize=700:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
idk man calling the Labour party "dogshit" is the kind of savage bullying aggression that stops thoughtful Kier Biden fans from posting on UK pol threads
― Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link