outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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Many people may migrate to online environments like those in Second Life, a virtual world where people meet, trade and interact in bodies and worlds of their choosing.

i always lol whenever contemporary people think that Second Life is still the best example of this kind of thing. it's very telling that the last time they checked in on this whole thing was 10 years ago

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ is posting testing rates now for nations where the info is available. Not just raw volume of tests, but per million people.

so while Americans are feeling confident that we're testing enough people now since we've tested 1.5 million and are the world leaders in that category, when it comes to tests conducted per million people, we're in 40th place.

Some of those nations aren't real good examples because nations with few known cases/tests might cause an outlying result, but...there are some fairly big nations out performing us here. Not to mention - symptomatic people nationally are still complaining that they can't get tested.

Take this for instance:

NOrway is testing 19,528 people per million. Switzerland is testing 17,729 people per million. Australia is testing 11,203 people per million. Germany is testing 10,962 per million. Italy is testing 10,870 per mill. South Korea is testing 8,875 per mill. Canada is testing 8,021 per million citizens. Spain at 7,593.

The US is testing 4,648 per million.

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

My diabetic uncle has fever, dry cough and lost his sense of taste and smell and hasn't been tested. His doctor told him to stay home and call 911 if his fever spikes. It's possible there's not much point in testing if it's clear someone has it but it does make me think that the worldometer numbers are drastically below the number of people who have it and are symptomatic, even leaving aside the hordes of us who probably already have it and aren't being affected.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

I add a zero onto any figures, don't know how accurate that is

threnody for the victims of alan shearer (Matt #2), Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

It's still important to test when someone appears to clearly have it.

Contact tracing and cluster detecting is more difficult when you're having to include every possible false positive. Obv you should treat a symptomatic unknown like they do have it but actually knowing which cases are legit through a test does help.

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

Trump has jokes: "The models show hundreds of thousands of people are going to die and you know what I want to do? I want to come way under the model. The professionals did the models and I was never involved in a model. At least this kind of a model." pic.twitter.com/vBeeWz1ayl

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 3, 2020

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

You did models too bruh, Enquirer killed the stories

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

that guy inspires some brute loathing in me that still surprises

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

The US is testing 4,648 per million.

and the UK is doing 2,543 per million.

stet, Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

Birds of a feather

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

The virus has been sonified

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/scientists-have-turned-structure-coronavirus-music#

cat, Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link

Australia’s capacity for casual and careless cruelty never ceases to amaze me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/hotel-quarantine-a-disaster-and-vulnerable-people-should-be-allowed-home-doctor-says

Why they picked the intercontinental and Hilton as quarantine hotels bemuses me. I’ve stayed in both on business trips No opening windows, small rooms. They may be 5 star but Sydney is full of extended stay type places with separate living and bedrooms, balconies, kichenettes etc. no doubt the franchise holders for the Hilton and intercontinental are liberal party donors. (A lot of the extended stay places are owned by Chinese real estate investment groups, so good old Australian racism is probably at play here as well)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

See also the immigration detainees in cramped unsanitary conditions in motels in Brisbane.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

USA fatalities:
3/01-3/31: 4,050
4/01-4/04: 4,399

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 5 April 2020 04:03 (four years ago) link

the dude from Trapt tried to argue that nobody complained when 12k died under Obama, and it was easy to reply with "we'll probablybe there in 3-4 days" :(

and that's just a little over two months

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

xp if the implication there is that we've had a similar number of deaths in the past few days to the entire month of march then yes that's the defintion of exponential growth. it's not a US thing. it's true everywhere except places where the rate of transmission is falling.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 5 April 2020 06:55 (four years ago) link

#mathsplaining

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 5 April 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link

how does one get past WaPo paywall?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link

I thought all they'd lifted it for all their coronavirus coverage.

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link

NYT has, but I am unable to read WP w/out subscribing

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link

(xpost) If you're using Chrome, control-shift-n. Learned that here.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link

open it in incognito mode Morbs

Number None, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link

ty

I understand c s n, not incognito

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link

Crosby, Stills & Nash?

Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link

I'd cut and paste, but the article is huge. It's basically a "they saw it coming and did nothing" summary a la post 9/11, but a la 9/11 this is going to cost virtually no one in charge their jobs. Possibly not even the Incompetent/Incontinent-in-Chief.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link

Most paywalls will block you if you’re incognito but you can clear your cookies for the site instead

crüt, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link

Re WaPo coronavirus coverage the news updates remain free, the "analysis" and opinion pieces less so.

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 April 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

still an asshole, bruh - you had tons of people downplaying this as a nothingburger thanks to your daily rants:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/dr-drew-apologizes-was-wrong-about-coronavirus-threat/ar-BB12cbT1

no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link

The US surgeon general warned the country on Sunday that it will face a “Pearl Harbor moment” in the next week, with an unprecedented numbers of coronavirus deaths expected coast to coast.

“The next week is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment. It’s going to be our 9/11 moment,” Jerome Adams told NBC News’ Meet the Press.

“It’s going to be the hardest moment for many Americans in their entire lives, and we really need to understand that if we want to flatten that curve and get through to the other side, everyone needs to do their part.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/05/pearl-harbor-us-surgeon-general-coronavirus-deaths-donald-trump-white-house-briefing

sleeve, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link

Weird analogy imo. Suggests some big aggressive reaction.

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

probably alludes to martial law, considering that's the last time it was invoked

no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link

i thought they were trying to sprinkle on some asiany flavor.

Yerac, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link

yum asiany flavor. hope it's soy-garlic

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

or maybe five spice!

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

the U.S. surgeon general referred to next week as both a 9/11 moment and a pearl harbor moment, in two separate interviews today. also threw in rosie the riveter. i like him! he doesn't get to speak much during the trump rally coronavirus updates. but i like that he's using those kinds of old school metaphors - maybe those resonate with the older folks a little more (aka, those most at risk if they get it, and also a group of people that are prone to complaining and stubborn refusals to do things)

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

yeah I can see how that would be directed at my father-in-law, who was almost 10 when Pearl Harbor happened and is still going out daily without a mask.

sleeve, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

Seems as likely to make that generation indignant at the comparison.

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

I will report back! I'm sure I will hear his opinion :)

sleeve, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

Close thread, we good now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9E6xQ_ah2A

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

My pet theory for why some old people fail to take it seriously is pride. Like, if you've got that far in life there's a certain pride in thinking that you've seen things the younger generation hasn't and there's nothing new under the sun so anything that messes with that shape to your life is upsetting.

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

When I linked over to see that youtube, it also recommended for me a video about the "Science behind COVID-19", as explained by "Dr. Duc Vuong, World's #1 Weight Loss Surgeon".

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

So you deny it.

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

Xpost

Alba, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

Chicago’s black population is 29%. 70% of those who’ve died from covid in Chicago are African-American. https://t.co/KPi0JXWcmX

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) April 5, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link

I am not looking forward to when COVID-19 hits the prisons. Given how poor prison medical care is, I expect the mortality will be much higher than average.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link

hasn't it already?

no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

Hard to say when the media ignores prisons and prisoners so completely.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

Timeline crossover: Tiger at NYC’s Bronx Zoo tests positive for coronavirus

Sanpaku, Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

seems like a good use of testing resources

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link


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