Didn't Johnson say just a couple of days ago that he was more or less better, but spiked a fever again (or continued to) and was just isolating out of a sense of caution? I wonder what changed?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
He was lying.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
The Guardian was told last week that Johnson was more seriously ill than either he or his officials were prepared to admit, and that he was being seen by doctors who were concerned about his breathing.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
yeah he's a liar iirc
― đ đđ˘đ¨ (caek), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
he'll Baghdad Bob it til he dies
― no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
"he did die, but it wasn't of COVID-19. it was of stress from the hysteria of COVID-19!"
The hashtag #FireFauci is trending on Twitter; one of the people promoting it is Celia Farber, who wrote Spin magazine's AIDS column in the 80s and 90s and was a noted proponent of the theory that HIV does not cause AIDS. Really great the way some folks just keep bubbling up.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
i thought it wasn't uncommon for people w/covid to fall extremely ill after a few days of feeling better
― crĂźt, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
I'll give Boris the benefit of the doubt when he's getting last rites and coughing the remnants of his lungs into a scarlet blood spattered handkerchief. But until then he's a ventilator thief!
― calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
Not half.
― Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
I hate Potterizing but this is literally the plot of Order of the Phoenix
― no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
5 minutes after BoJo dies, he will be recognized as a "crisis actor"
― no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
Iâm gonna be sooooo fucking jealous of yâall in the UK if Boris bites it. That should be OUR oaf lying in state!
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 6 April 2020 00:32 (four years ago) link
Give it time
― la lĂŠgende d'beer (Matt #2), Monday, 6 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
this turd of a year owes us a few more world leaders down at least
― aaaaeeeeeeoooooooowwww (Left), Monday, 6 April 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
Rikers Island jail in NYC has had 5.4% of its population diagnosed with the â19 âvid, vs 0.08% of the US population. (0.65 for NYC, 0.53% for NY state, 0.2% for Italy, 0.12% for Wuhan, per Legal Aid NYC.)
― donald failson (sic), Monday, 6 April 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link
Times is saying Johnson is on oxygen but wasnât admitted as an emergency case.
― stet, Monday, 6 April 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link
I really wouldnât like it if Boris Johnson died. this is all so shocking
― Dan S, Monday, 6 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
Really
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 6 April 2020 03:25 (four years ago) link
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The West has long stigmatized mask-wearing, unlike many Asian countries, where those who donât wear masks during public-health crises are the ones who are stigmatized.
― calzino, Monday, 6 April 2020 08:03 (four years ago) link
It should come as no surprise that while scuba apparatus may reduce inhaled SARS-CoV-2 aerosols, it will have no effect on exhaled ones, and arguably would increase them (divers have a different, habitually deeper, breath). The characters wearing surgical masks are protecting their neighbors, granny in her scuba gear isn't. And a 80 CF tank is like 4 hours air at surface pressure. I'd go with a 40.
― Sanpaku, Monday, 6 April 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link
NEW: Weâre starting to get numbers on remote learning during Covid, and the inequality is staggering: In some high-poverty areas, more than half of children are not able to participate. In some selective schools, âattendanceâ is near 100%. https://t.co/uO5cMkDvtC— Dana Goldstein (@DanaGoldstein) April 6, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2020 12:57 (four years ago) link
My wife and tons of other people I know teach college writing classes and theyâre all becoming acutely aware of which students are carrying basically as normal, which ones are typing papers on their phones while caring for their siblings, which ones vanish because they get quarantined for 14 days upon returning to their home countries, which ones canât access google docs in China, etc.
― joygoat, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link
the effects of the virus on higher education, especially in the USA, are going to be...what's the right word? I want to say spectacular, but that sounds like a good thing, and I do not mean it that way.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link
even the kids in "perfect attendance" selective schools are not getting their regularly scheduled education unless they're exceptional children w/ exceptional parents. esp if the parents are WFH or working period it's impossible to replicate the level of instruction and engagement in a home setting. the good news is that means all children throughout the world are losing this educational time - some kids might be do better than others at "keeping up" but no one is going to do great at it.
― Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
"Distance learning" started at my board today. I thought it was a voluntary, casual thing until this morning--seems to be much more official. I get the feeling the teachers I used to work with aren't crazy about this, most having their own kids at home to deal with.
― clemenza, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
This is a nice read from Edmund White:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/06/1980s-aids-pandemic-coronavirus-gay-community-survive
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link
'Screwed?' Yes. Higher education is spectacularly screwed.
However, I'm involved in primary/secondary education and I think the loss for minor students is more deleterious than for college and university students. A lot of the non-quantifiable skills that ECE and primary education imparts (pro-social, work orientation, academic habits) are grievously compromised by school interruption (in non-covid times), and now we're facing of entire classes of students who will be lacking foundational learning and critical socializing And yes, eventually, some of these kids will go to college w/ skill deficits. But to my eyes, a college student who never encounters de Man and Cixous is probably okay, a high school sophomore who misses the rise of fascism and the entirety of the Spanish Civil War is in a bit of trouble, and a first grader who misses essential phonics is fuuuuuucked.
The Times article raises some good points, but dances around the point that inequities within individual classrooms are being magnified more than than between districts, where the usual issues of fair access, funding, and quality are going to be laid bare.
― rb (soda), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link
i have a first grader and basically we've decided to ignore the stay at home "curriculum" and are basically just working on reading + phonetics with her for the reason you gave. such a critical skill if she can gain it while at home it won't be a total loss.
― Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
I agree with all that, soda. I'm thinking less of the education that students in higher education are missing during this time, and more about the university closures that will follow, and the consequences of that. that's to say, this is kinda inside baseball that may as well go on a higher education thread, so I'll take it there.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link
The government of Barbados is charging that shipment of 20 ventilators it had ordered and already paid for were seized by US authorities and prevented from reaching Barbados. Minister of Health and Wellness Jeffrey Bostic told reporters at a press conference âThey were seized in the United States. Paid for, but seized, so we are trying to see exactly what is going to transpire there.âTo date, the epidemic appears limited in Barbados. But cases have grown rapidly in recent days. The country has 48 ventilators but only 3 of the 56 Barbadians who have tested positive are currently on ventilator support. The country has just under 300,000 residents.
To date, the epidemic appears limited in Barbados. But cases have grown rapidly in recent days. The country has 48 ventilators but only 3 of the 56 Barbadians who have tested positive are currently on ventilator support. The country has just under 300,000 residents.
??
wtf is going on?
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
don't worry, jared is in charge. or azar. or birx. or the admiral.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:39 (four years ago) link
i thought Pence was âleading the responseâ
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link
I think the US is going out of its way to make itself the target of everyone who survives this pandemic despite our best efforts to stymie their survival, is wtf is going on.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
fitting that the only area in which the us federal government shows any kind of efficiency is theft
― mookieproof, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link
For sure, Euler. I realize my post has kind of a 'hey, you think things are bad for YOU?' tone, when I was just lamenting the whole enterprise of education rn.
― rb (soda), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
My heart aches for kids and adolescents who are going through this as a formative experience.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
??wtf is going on?
The short version is that there's an international shortage of a ventilators and PPE - and the US is currently trying to ensure that anything that does become available goes to them. The interpretation of the Defense Procurement Act they seem to be using means that all US manufacturers have to send any available masks, respirators, etc, to the government. Even if they're producing them overseas, as long as the company is registered in the US, they have to ship back there. It also happened with 200k respirators masks that were meant to go to the German police.
The other side is non-US companies who are finding people turning up at airports with boxes of cash and asking to divert shipments to the states, offering several times the face value of the goods. France apparently lost 600m masks ready to ship from China that way. You've got allied national governments accusing the US of 'modern piracy'.
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 April 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
Um, I have questions about the accountability of people who are carrying "boxes of cash."
At various points in my professional life I have seen actual boxes of cash, and my confidence in the people likely carrying them is... low. Somehow the amount of cash in the box keeps changing.
― cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
Ok please expand on this experience
― silby, Monday, 6 April 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
just once, i would like to have a box of cash
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
I have been checking, most places are out of these now
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
Plenty of boxes of ash tho
― no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
:(
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
One for the ages:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
― ShariVari, Monday, 6 April 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link
i didn't realize that de blasio ALSO did not realize it could be spread by asymptomatic people until, like, a couple days ago
Bill de Blasio Rejects Claim U.S. Knew Asymptomatic People Could Spread the Virus: Only Learned That 'In the Last 48 Hoursâ https://t.co/ohj74tr594 via @mediaite— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) April 4, 2020
wtf
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 April 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link
or, i suppose, to be more charitable, he thought it was only confirmed a few days ago, even though there were "suspicion" - âThere was suspicion, but there was not evidence.â
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 April 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
he's been fucking terrible
― mookieproof, Monday, 6 April 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link
he's gonna go down as the worst mayor in nyc history and it's not gonna be close
― iatee, Monday, 6 April 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
surprising that he hasn't eminent domained the park slope Y for his own private use
― mookieproof, Monday, 6 April 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link