U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

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Terrible situation in Wisconsin. But Justice Roberts, who keeps insisting he’s impartial, is comfortable with the ruling

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 12:22 (four years ago) link

he's an umpire iirc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link

tip for voting in WI: wear a hazmat suit covered in protest signs

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

then burn the state capitol down on the way home

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

fucking bullshit

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link

It's been quite surprising to see the sheer numbers of Twitter pundits suddenly shocked, shocked I tell you(!), that Roberts might not be as impartial as he hinted.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link

if you’re young and healthy and vote in a heavy republican district just go and conspicuously cough at the old whites. what are they going to do? Arrest you?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

In the middle of the coronavirus pandemic, THIS is the line for in person voting as the polls open for Election Day in Wisconsin. #COVID19 #ElectionDay pic.twitter.com/WplsSHy9RF

— Omar Jimenez (@OmarJimenez) April 7, 2020

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

also while it’s fun and cool and good to wish death on the most powerful man in the world I know of 5 guys that i humbly submit would be better targets for covid-19

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

die, fuckers

sleeve, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

elections have consequences

but so did that one time mcconnell brazenly STOLE a supreme court seat and got away with it and counts it as his greatest legislative moment.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link

oh I bet there’s time for McConnell and the fellas to top it

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

not to blame the victims here, but: WEAR YOUR FUCKING MASKS

Polls open in minutes. Here’s a look at the line in Waukesha, the city’s only polling location pic.twitter.com/Uqg08gannt

— Matt Smith (@mattsmith_news) April 7, 2020

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

Waukesha is the most rock-solid Republican part of the state btw.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

Or rather Waukesha County is -- city of Waukesha is the liberal mecca of the county (still voted for Walker over Evers though)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

there are literally only 5 polling places open in Milwaukee. the election is a sham.

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link

if the entire election plays out like this, shit is going to get apocalyptic, with the 1999 WTO protest crew returned from the dead as the leaders, and everyone in homemade hazmat suits and masks prowling the streets with pitchforks

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So Thomas asked a question this morning during the first live stream!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

!!!!

holy shit

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

Every time this thread gets bumped I'm terrified it's going to be something like "RBG joins the majority in declaring the entire concept of Federal statute unconstitutional"

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

during the first live stream!

Was he wearing sweatpants?

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 May 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

It seems plausible that SCOTUS will establish a heightened standard for subpoenas targeting the president, then send the case back down to the lower courts to determine whether Vance's subpoena of Trump's tax returns meets that standard.

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) May 12, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

NB: I will never get used to Thomas asking questions.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

copying and pasting the good NYT op-eds at length, before my canceled subscription paywall goes into effect.

The Supreme Court, Too, Is on the Brink

The Supreme Court made the indisputably right call last week when it refused to block California from limiting attendance at religious services in an effort to control the spread of Covid-19.

A Southern California church, represented by a Chicago-based organization, the Thomas More Society, which most often defends anti-abortion activists, had sought the justices’ intervention with the argument that by limiting worshipers to the lesser of 25 percent of building capacity or 100 people, while setting a 50 percent occupancy cap on retail stores, California was discriminating against religion in violation of the Constitution’s Free Exercise Clause.

Given the obvious difference between walking through a store and sitting among fellow worshipers for an hour or more, as well as the documented spread of the virus through church attendance in such places as Sacramento (71 cases), Seattle (32 cases) and South Korea (over 5,000 cases traced to one person at a religious service), California’s limits are both sensitive and sensible, hardly the basis for constitutional outrage or judicial second-guessing.

So why did the court’s order, issued as midnight approached on Friday night, fill me with dread rather than relief?

It was because in a ruling that should have been unanimous, the vote was 5 to 4. And it was because of who the four dissenters were: the four most conservative justices, two of them appointed by the president who a couple of months ago was demanding that churches be allowed to open by Easter and who, even before the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, was openly encouraging protests in the capitals of states not reopening as quickly as he would like.

As an astonished country witnessed on Monday night, as he held a Bible in front of a church near the White House after demonstrators were violently cleared from his path, Donald Trump is using religion as a cultural wedge to deflect attention from the consequences of his own ineptitude. The recognition that four Supreme Court justices — Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh — would have invoked the court’s power to undermine fact-based public policy in the name of a misbegotten claim of religious discrimination was beyond depressing. It was terrifying.

Does that sound like an overstatement? Take a look at Justice Kavanaugh’s dissenting opinion. “California’s latest safety guidelines discriminate against places of worship and in favor of comparable secular businesses,” he wrote. “Such discrimination violates the First Amendment.”

It’s interesting that while Justices Gorsuch and Thomas signed Justice Kavanaugh’s opinion, Justice Alito did not. Perhaps he’s just too good a lawyer to subscribe to the flimsy analysis underlying this opinion. Fair enough, but he evidently couldn’t be bothered to explain his own dissenting vote. And no less than his fellow dissenters, he obviously inhaled the unfounded claim of religious discrimination that the president has injected into an atmosphere already saturated with polarizing rhetoric.

Here’s what’s wrong with the Kavanaugh opinion: He throws words around imprecisely in a context where precision is everything. The state’s rules “discriminate.” We’re all against discrimination. But what does this potent word mean? To discriminate, in the way law uses the word, means to treat differently things that are alike, without a good reason for doing so. That’s why racial discrimination, for example, is almost always unconstitutional. People are people regardless of their race, and the government needs a powerful reason for using race to treat people differently.

The concept of discrimination, properly understood, simply doesn’t fit this case. California is not subjecting things that are alike to treatment that’s different. Churches are not like the retail stores or “cannabis dispensaries” in Justice Kavanaugh’s list of “comparable secular businesses.” Sitting in communal worship for an hour or more is not like picking up a prescription, or a pizza, or an ounce of marijuana. You don’t need a degree in either law or public health to figure that out. If anything, California is giving churches preferential treatment, since other places where people gather in large numbers like lecture halls and theaters are still off limits.

So what was the dissenters’ problem? Justice Kavanaugh’s opinion offers a clue. The Christian observance of Pentecost was last Sunday, and the clock was ticking as the justices considered the South Bay United Pentecostal Church’s request. “The church would suffer irreparable harm from not being able to hold services on Pentecost Sunday in a way that comparable secular businesses and persons can conduct their activities,” Justice Kavanaugh wrote. What does that sentence even mean? What’s the secular comparator when it comes to observing Pentecost? A Sunday afternoon softball game?

I’m baffled by why a particular liturgical observance should have even a walk-on role in this opinion. Last weekend was also Shavuot, a major Jewish holiday. But it’s the Christian calendar about which recently appointed federal judges seem exclusively concerned. In April, Judge Justin Walker of the Federal District Court in Louisville, Ky., blocked that city from enforcing a ban on drive-in church services. “On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter,” his overheated opinion began. (Judge Walker is Senator Mitch McConnell’s young protégé who, barring a miracle or a pair of righteous Republican senators, is on the verge of confirmation to the powerful federal appeals court in Washington, D.C.).

In any event, no one was stopping the church from observing Pentecost. As its own brief points out, the church conducts as many as five services on a typical Sunday, each attracting 200 to 300 worshipers. As the state points out, it could schedule more services.

The only other opinion filed in this case was that of Chief Justice John Roberts, explaining why the court was denying the church’s request. I am willing to bet that he never intended to write anything; orders denying applications of this sort are typically issued without explanation.

But he must have concluded that the Kavanaugh dissent couldn’t go unrebuted. Writing just for himself in five paragraphs devoid of rhetoric and labeled “concurring in denial of application for injunctive relief,” he offered a sober explanation of the obvious. He noted that “similar or more severe restrictions apply to comparable secular gatherings, including lectures, concerts, movie showings, spectator sports, and theatrical performances, where large groups of people gather in close proximity for extended periods of time.” The California rule, he observed, “exempts or treats more leniently only dissimilar activities, such as operating grocery stores, banks, and laundromats, in which people neither congregate in large groups nor remain in close proximity for extended periods.”

After noting the severity of the pandemic and the “dynamic and fact-intensive” question of how to respond to it, Chief Justice Roberts said that the politically accountable state officials charged with answering that question were entitled to act within “broad limits” and “should not be subject to second-guessing by an unelected federal judiciary, which lacks the background, competence, and expertise to assess public health and is not accountable to the people.”

Predictably, the chief justice was excoriated on the political right, in recognition that his vote was the one that mattered, just as in the Obamacare case eight years ago, for which the right has never forgiven him. “It wasn’t just religious liberty that Chief Justice Roberts strangled,” read the headline on a piece in The Hill by Andrew McCarthy, a reliable ally of the president. The Wall Street Journal accused Chief Justice Roberts of “faux judicial modesty,” in an echo, which the chief justice surely didn’t miss, of the “faux judicial restraint” critique that Justice Antonin Scalia hurled at him early in his Supreme Court tenure. Everyone who cares about the Supreme Court is busy looking for signs of how John Roberts will navigate the political thicket in which the court finds itself, how he will reconcile his conservative heart and his institution- and history-minded head.

Until recently, I thought I saw signs that at least he wasn’t completely alone, that Brett Kavanaugh was evolving into something of a soul mate, willing to stand with the chief and provide a bit of cover. For example, the court just last week turned down a Trump administration request to block a federal district judge’s order to consider moving hundreds of medically vulnerable inmates out of a low-security federal prison in Ohio. The unsigned order noted only that “Justice Thomas, Justice Alito and Justice Gorsuch would grant the application.” (Note that these three observed the norm, in cases that reach the court in this posture, of noting their dissent without further explanation.) On the mental chart that I maintain of such developments, Justice Kavanaugh’s refusal to join the three dissenters was a data point.

But then came the California church case. Justice Kavanaugh might have chosen to observe the norm, casting his vote without issuing an opinion that served only to raise the political temperature. Instead of that unspoken gesture toward collegiality, he gave us more proof that the polarization roiling the country has the Supreme Court in its grip. The court can’t save us; that much is clear. It can’t even save itself.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 June 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

That's a really well-done analysis.

There's a small part of me -- maybe both too optimistic and too cynical at the same time -- that wonders if this vote would go the same way even with another conservative justice, that the other four are throwing red meat to the base while not actually doing anything of consequence. Sort of the same way that the right wing doesn't seem to really want to overturn Roe v Wade, just to keep it as a cattle prod.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

If the right wing doesn't really want to overturn Roe v Wade then they might want to think twice about supporting and voting for SC justices not just likely to overturn Roe V. Wade but promoted as such.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

that wonders if this vote would go the same way even with another conservative justice, that the other four are throwing red meat to the base while not actually doing anything of consequence.

i'm not sure that's much more comforting than the existing scenario. they should never throw red meat to any base! of course, with my left bias i don't see the liberal wing of the court as doing the same thing, because i see their opinions as backed up by substantive reasoning. i suppose wingnuts think the same thing about the conservative wing

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 June 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I think the liberal wing has definitely made politics/policy-based decisions with pretty thin basis in the constitution over the years - tbh, Roe v. Wade is probably one of the best examples. And I'm glad they did. But I think the court has always been political and we should be fully aware of the game we are playing rather than hope for some kind of objective constitutionalism.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

A similar case in Oregon, based on the state constitution is now being considered by the Oregon Supreme Court. According to the newspaper, the lawyer for the plaintiff churches argued before the court that they should ignore the US Supreme Court's statement by Chief Justice Roberts in denying the California petition, because (...wait for it...) the SCOTUS ruling 'was made almost entirely along party lines'.

So much for the idea that the SCOTUS is viewed as a fair arbiter of constitutional disputes, voting without fear or favor. The trouble with this thinking (by an "officer of the court" no less!) is that every Supreme Court justice from now to doomsday will be identified as partisan and every vote beholden to party politics and should be ignored. With that sort of thinking infecting even the legal profession, you may as well burn down the SCOTUS building and plant grass. Grass isn't very useful, but at least people like it.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

"you may as well burn down the SCOTUS building and plant grass."

Can we please?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

The nice thing about having a functioning court system is that it allows for dispute resolutions that don't always require a civil war to figure out who wins.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

It's only because of our frustrating federalist system that we need 9 people in robes to decide that abortion should be legal everywhere through the alchemical process of deriving an unstated "right to privacy" from the bill of rights and then in turn determining that that "right to privacy" includes the right to terminate a pregnancy. How about just legal abortion is good and most people want it?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

You are making an argument made more often and more forcefully by anti-abortion advocates and it has much to justify it. The difficulty with "legal abortion is good and most people want it" is that majorities of voters in many states do not want it, and because of federalism those states can block a federal pro-abortion law from passing Congress and block any pro-abortion constitutional amendment also. The best you could get would be the federalist solution of maybe 20 states where it is legal and poor people in other states hung out to dry even more so than today.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

I'm fully aware of that, but the flipside of it bites us in the ass more often than not. It's an inherently conservative institution because the Senate is inherently skewed conservative. History is far more full of examples of SCOTUS thwarting the liberal will of the people than standing up for the rights of the trampled.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

*in part because the Senate is inherently skewed conservative. Not to mention that it's basically dumb luck who gets to nominate justices, and then the appointments stick for life. I hate the Supreme Court.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 4 June 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

#SCOTUS rules that federal employment discrimination laws protect LGBT employees

— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) June 15, 2020

And by a 6-3 vote, too!

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Roberts as umpire!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

NEIL GORSUCH WROTE THE OPINION WTF

— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) June 15, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

A rebrand!

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

Gorsuch's majority opinion is 29 pages.

Alito and Kavanaugh's dissents are a collective 138 pages.

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) June 15, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Gorsuch's opening paragraphs:

Sometimes small gestures can have unexpected consequences. Major initiatives practically guarantee them. In our time, few pieces of federal legislation rank in signifi- cance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. There, in Title VII, Congress outlawed discrimination in the workplace on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. Today, we must decide whether an employer can fire someone simply for being homosexual or transgender. The answer is clear. An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or ac- tions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids.

Those who adopted the Civil Rights Act might not have anticipated their work would lead to this particular result. Likely, they weren’t thinking about many of the Act’s consequences that have become apparent over the years, including its prohibition against discrimination on the basis of motherhood or its ban on the sexual harassment of male employees. But the limits of the drafters’ imagination sup- ply no reason to ignore the law’s demands. When the express terms of a statute give us one answer and extratextual considerations suggest another, it’s no contest. Only the written word is the law, and all persons are entitled to its benefit.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

this is wild

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 June 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

very good news

Dan S, Monday, 15 June 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

meanwhile, Alito is over here analogizing sexual orientation to rape so that's not super great https://t.co/JPOeW8UNRg

— delrayser (@delrayser) June 15, 2020

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

I guess Gorsuch joins Roberts in the evil but not stupid wing of the court. (Kav clearly stupid)

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

obvs the conflation of rape and gender identity says far more about anyone who would open the point to debate than it does about anything else

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

lol

Alito's dissent is followed by an appendix featuring 11 pages of dictionary definitions of the word "sex."

— sshackford (@SShackford) June 15, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 15 June 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

featuring 11 pages of dictionary definitions of the word "sex."

looooool

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link


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