Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Thgat some graves have tiles, does that make them a mausoleum. Only really noticed when they were lowering my dad down.
THink I may have seen that kind of thing before but it would have a slab over it.

Also taht my dad was a massive book buyer hadn't realised taht was something he did. It's something I('ve done for years and never knew there was a connection. His 2nd wife spent a part of her eulogy to him talking about the extent to which he followed the pursuit. & if his kids wanted money from him they'd be much more likely to get it if they said it was for books.
Meanwhile I can't go by charity shops or remainder, even new bookshops without having long looks.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

THought it really weird, was expecting to see the earthen sides of a grave and there's these white tiles going down 6 feet or whatever.
Maybe the soil is wrong to be planted straight into it or at least in a coffin. But it was white tiled like a shower room or something.
I thought poart of the ceremony was normally to thrown the first handful of earth on top of the coffin or at least if you were the spouse or closest kin. Wondered why that wasn't happening.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link

Could it be that those are temporary panels for holding the dirt back so the hole maintains its shape, and they are lifted out before the hole is finally filled?

nickn, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

I vaguely understood that most USian burials take place in a concrete vault - there is no dirt-to-casket contact. the casket is lowered into the concrete box, a concrete lid goes on top of that, the dirt is filled in around said vault. Surely practices vary by location and region and funereal industry practice

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

But the vault doesn't go up to ground level, does it? It's just high enough to fit the casket inside.

nickn, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

I think it looks like a solid wall from looking back at a still I have.

This burial was in the land around his house which is what was the area he grew up in. His dad's original home etc.
May be that as much, that it's not a normal graveyard. Just surprising cos I don't think I'd ever seen a structure like it. Surprised it only had the space for one grave and didn't seem to have anywhere for any of his immediate family to go.
I wondered if this was the structure taht was under large marble grave slabs in graveyards too.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

a thing i discovered when my mum's grave was dug is this. her plan for it was to be next to her mum and dad under the yew tree, and she had a plot reserved in the churchyard in the village she lived in. but when the gravedigger -- a man with only one arm* and a tiny little digger that he drives -- checked, he said, "can't go there, there's someone already down there". we said "wait, someone buried without a gravestone?"** he said, "oh they probably have a stone somewhere, they move around a lot down there." so anyway we agreed to that the other side was fine, and everything was dug and sorted. but i feel we shd have pressed him more on the information he had so casually imparted.

*in my mind's eye he also has a hook instead of a hand but this is i think unlikely embroidery by my stressed memory
**in fact was with many old churchyards there are graves without stones, because there's reuse and the stones are cleared and repositioned, and any old skellingtons found are carefully reburied. i remember they did this in the 70s and found some bodies buried in leather bags instead of coffins, which everyone found very interesting. the graves are meant to be mapped but the maps go back centuries and are often quite inaccurate and also don't go back all the way (there's been a church of some sort there since c.1200). anyway this didn't apply to the corner by the yew, which was part of someone's farm or garden until quite recently.

mark s, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

didn't seem to have anywhere for any of his immediate family to go

often e.g. husband and wife are stacked not side by side

mark s, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

another thing i was shockingly old when i learned

mark s, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

the gravedigger -- a man with only one arm

Some people are just in the wrong jobs aren't they

la légende d'beer (Matt #2), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

Well, he also has a hook to loosen the soil.

nickn, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link

How bad 12 Monkeys really is.

meisenfek, Thursday, 9 April 2020 08:56 (four years ago) link

Terry Gilliam is amazing if/when you’re a 14-year-old boy.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link

I learnt about five years ago that Bonnie & Clyde were real people, not just fictional characters from a 1960s movie I watched as a kid.

Lee626, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link

I think Bonnie is about a foot shorter than she appeared in the film. Listened through the Last House On the Left version of the story a few months ago and watched a few History/Discover channel versions a while back. Think I listened to at least one other podcast on it too.

Stevolende, Thursday, 9 April 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link

That chicken pox parties were ever a thing. Mind = blown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party

la légende d'beer (Matt #2), Friday, 10 April 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

They’re still a thing

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 April 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

I'm posting from one right now

rob, Friday, 10 April 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

I was shockingly old (because I didn't have kids until my 30s) that kids these days didn't even get the chicken pox anymore.

Another point for vaccinations.

pplains, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

We don't have those in the UK, my kids caught it last year, and my wife, which was pretty bad.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

that the first three numbers in your SSN correspond to a geographic location within the USA

budo jeru, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

^unless you had one of the earliest ones or was issued one after 2007

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

it wasn't changed until 2011, apparently:
https://www.ssa.gov/employer/randomization.html

mh, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

how do u think I learned all of ur SSNs

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 April 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

My social begins with 709 because my parents were hobos.

pplains, Friday, 10 April 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

railroad!

Dan S, Friday, 10 April 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link

boxcar!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 April 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link

  • the paper they use to wrap butter is actually metallic
  • microwave ovens are difficult to buy during a lockdown

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 13 April 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link

Trying to think what the desired result would be otherwise gloop contained in a paper wrapper.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 April 2020 07:52 (four years ago) link

Though assume the process was more take frozen butter from freezer realise it won't spread for hours. Light bulb moment .
Later lovely little fire in useful machine.

But maybe that's obvious.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 April 2020 07:57 (four years ago) link

it took a few goes to blow out the fire

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 13 April 2020 08:31 (four years ago) link

I don't know what the resulting substance would be like if it came out without the flames. Would it actually be nice or just a molten mess.
& wouldn't you be better off cutting off a chunk and putting it i a micorwaveable dish. Or did you need the whole stick.
Was wondering why you'd still have the wrapper attached.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 April 2020 08:38 (four years ago) link

there wasn’t enough butter to bother with a separate dish

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 13 April 2020 09:12 (four years ago) link

more convenient to set the kitchen alight

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 13 April 2020 09:12 (four years ago) link

Fela Kuti came from a well-off family of public intellectuals and studied music at one of the most prestigious conservatories in the world. I'd always enjoyed his music but never looked into his biography beyond the basic "they threw his mom out a window you know" stuff

Dan I., Monday, 13 April 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

Allspice is just one single spice and not a Five Spice+ mixture

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 13 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

xp
I really liked Michael Veal's biography of Fela back when I was absolutely obsessed with him (so maybe take this rec with a grain of salt). Wole Soyinka is Fela's cousin fyi

dip to dup (rob), Monday, 13 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

that "Sandy" is a shortening of "Alexandria" or "Alexander"

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

Next you'll be telling me you didn't know Eck is short for Alexander.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link

Wait huh? Every Alexandra I've know has gone by Alex.

Every Sandy i knew was a Sandra.

I know some Alexandras become Sandys but that's a minority innit?

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link

Used to be more common

Alexander -> Sandy used to be pretty big

mh, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 00:32 (four years ago) link

I guess Sandra is itself a shortening of Alexandra too?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link

and Xander = Alexander

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 03:00 (four years ago) link

and Robin Zander = Cheap Trick

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 03:00 (four years ago) link

Clover, the band that played on Elvis Costello's My Aim Is True and later mutated into Huey Lewis & the News, was founded by Alex Call, the guy who wrote "867-5309/Jenny" (and Pat Benatar's "Little Too Late").

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:28 (four years ago) link

Assume the Sandy discovery related to Ms Denny?

BUt yeah assumed that Sandra shortened to Sandy too.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:08 (four years ago) link

also the effect of the presence of silica under certain circumstances.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:10 (four years ago) link

I didn't know, until I read Dan's post above just now, that they threw Fela Kuti's mum out of a window.

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:16 (four years ago) link

xxp but Sandra is also a shortening of Alexandra, as mentioned

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 08:18 (four years ago) link

years ago i read that linda came from a shortening of saralinda, which i thought was interesting bcz no one is called saralinda any more

anyway i was shockingly old when i learned this theory is false and saralinda doesn't even appear on the linda wikipedia page (it's still true that no one is called this anymore)

fact: the name wendy was coined by j.m.barrie in peter pan, where it derives from fwendy-wendy (i was shockingly young when i learned this and have not yet recovered from the shock tbqh)

mark s, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link


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