“Oh, Move Over POLLER, And Let Jimi Take Over!” – ILX Artist Poll #101 – Jimi Hendrix – Voting Thread

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sleeve, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

Yeah, a lot of people seem to not like Band of Gypsys as much. For me, the more groove-oriented rhythm section was the perfect setting and support for Hendrix's lead guitar improvisation, allowing him to branch out while staying focused. I also actually like that Miles sings on parts of it; while he's not the most versatile vocalist, I do find his voice more tuneful than Hendrix's and it works for some material. I also love John McLaughlin's Devotion, with Miles on drums, though.

― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r)

i'm not on the anti-buddy train like some are - like i mentioned upthread the scannell mix is pretty heavy on the buddy, down to opening with the buddy version of "stepping stone", and in some contexts, like "stepping stone" and especially "machine gun", i definitely appreciate his more static sense of rhythmic propulsion. none of the other songs on the record were, that i know of, ever played live with mitch, so it's hard to say whether i would like them better or not.

i will say that i absolutely hate buddy's singing. i think it's terrible. jimi is a technically extremely untrained singer, but there's a lot of emotion in his voice. it always sounds really heartfelt and sincere to me even when what he's singing is bullshit. with buddy it's just a sea of bad scat.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

scatting drummers and whistling guitar players

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 April 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

I'm so into "Crosstown Traffic" I voted for it twice, meaning I get to redo this and there will be an Axis song (an obvious one) on my ballot.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Friday, 10 April 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

Voted. Could have fiddled with this until the end of time.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Sunday, 12 April 2020 01:00 (four years ago) link

Redid my ballot with the one Axis song but, listening to that album more closely the other day, I was thinking more about everything that's going on sonically and I've definitely been underrating it.

there's a lot of emotion in his voice. it always sounds really heartfelt and sincere to me even when what he's singing is bullshit.

Don't disagree with this btw; I don't even mind the bullshit! My point earlier was just that the dragonfly business doesn't stand out to me as exceptionally bullshit.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 April 2020 01:18 (four years ago) link

wait, you only rated one song on axis?

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link

i would also direct dragonfly haters to ursula k. leguin and todd barton's "dragonfly song" and to dutch band dragonfly's monster fuzz jam "celestial empire"

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 12 April 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link

Yeah, like I was saying, Axis was the one I just never had until my 20s and so I never really developed the same connection to it as to others. Not its fault and I will be listening to it more.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 April 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

what's your take on castles, bold as love, and little wing as guitar pieces? Are they simple? Does most of your love for jimi come from feeling rather than technical guitar playing?

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link

xxp kate, i have been loving your dragonfly recs. I still hate the lyrics of spanish castle magic, though.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

idk, i like the lyrics. the stuff he says, it's interestingly off-kilter. like, after the "dragonfly" thing he feels the need to assure us that it's not _actually_ spanish, that's just, like, a figure of speech, or an architectural descriptor, or i don't know, something. it's totally groovy, there are, like, candy clouds, all hanging over the blood-soaked ground... grooooovy!

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link

I was just trying to imagine Jimi covering Leonard Cohen, lol. Please no. Give me dragonflies every time.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Sunday, 12 April 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

Also, I like how concerned Jimi is that his darlin' is going to fall off the dragonfly, which, you know, you should be.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Sunday, 12 April 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link

Wasn't the Spanish Castle a club in Washington state or something like that?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 April 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link

what's your take on castles, bold as love, and little wing as guitar pieces? Are they simple? Does most of your love for jimi come from feeling rather than technical guitar playing?

Good question. "Little Wing" was the one I voted for and I do really like the melodies in all three. Leslie speaker effect in "Little Wing" and backwards track in "Castles" are great. I never really tried to break those down or play them before. I just tried to work out the intro of "Little Wing" by ear before double-checking it. It's pretty straightforward imo, mostly pentatonic stuff that lies under the fingers, harmonized using basic chord shapes. He played it with a real fluidity and fluency in the idiom, though, bringing out something like a dialogue between two voices.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 April 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link

So I think that's what you mean by feeling rather than technical guitar playing?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

Yes, that's a good answer and is otm.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

I think the fluidity works particularly well with the lyric and melody on castles. Jimi seemed to be so good at recognizing what the sound and feel of chord shapes implied in a song structure and for the lyric. I think that's also why spanish castle magic bugs me. The riff seems a bit too heavy for the dragonfly imagery.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

Suppose spanish castle magic has a bit of a Showman feel in the chorus.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

The man was also excellent at making his solos collections of melodic ideas, almost never feels like aimless wankery.

fauci wally (voodoo chili), Sunday, 12 April 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

Lots of these most recent posts super otm

Quick question: "Castles" & "Run Run Run"--are they the first examples of that sort of "Waterfalls"-style omnibus song, where each verse has a brief story with a different character, and then the chorus ties them all together with some kind of underlying principle. I can't help but think there's gotta be earlier instances of this technique--like no way Dylan never did this--but I am drawing a total blank atm

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 April 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

"Four Women" by Nina Simone comes to mind, but it doesn't have a chorus.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 April 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link

"Highway 61 Revisited" also.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 April 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link

Ah there it is

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 April 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link

Eleanor Rigby, though she returns in the final verse.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Monday, 13 April 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link

I was listening to the Hendrix "Wild Thing" from Monterey and never realized he quotes "Strangers in the Night" briefly in the final solo. Badass.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Monday, 13 April 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link

Looking forward to the rollout so I can hear all the cool tunes not on the major releases

that's not my post, Monday, 13 April 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link

Okay, I've got 29 ballots in. If you've received an email saying "Received!", your votes have been counted. I have one ballot that the ranks need to be adjusted on, and I've got one yet to be counted that has a minor issue to be addressed with the voter. I'll keep this open for another couple days in case anyone else wants to vote.

In other business, is there anyone open to doing images for the main rollout?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Thanks! I did not see a reply, so sent a note to be sure.

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

hi! i am going to submit a ballot today :)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 April 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

DO IT!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link

xp I haven't heard that version of "Wild Thing" in over 20 years but the notes in the solo unexpectedly matched the melody of "Strangers in the night" as it was playing in my head just now so that was weird lol

billstevejim, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 00:16 (four years ago) link

Okay, I've got 29 ballots in. If you've received an email saying "Received!", your votes have been counted

haven't had an email, I'll resend mine now just in case

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 06:18 (four years ago) link

I am in serious need of Jimi Hendrix Poll results.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link

They're coming!

To be nice, I'm keeping the beach polls open through the weekend, after which they'll be closed. I've come up with an idea for the tracks images that I'll work on over the weekend. On Monday we'll get into the side polls and hopefully on Tuesday the tracks rollout will begin!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

Thanks C. Grisso/McCain!

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

mind if I send in a separate email with side polls? I forgot to include them

zoomer death circus (sleeve), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

No problem!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

Oooh I just started digging into First Rays & I might end up resubmitting my ballot

doktor forstus (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

Looking forward to the roll out ... still on for Monday start?

that's not my post, Sunday, 19 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

xpost, no pressure BTW, just wanting something to look forward to on another quarantine Monday

that's not my post, Sunday, 19 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL231cgCSA

Brad C., Sunday, 19 April 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link

Looking forward to the roll out ... still on for Monday start?

Still looking to start w/the side poll reveals on Monday.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 April 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

excellent and thank you.

that's not my post, Sunday, 19 April 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

POLLS ARE CLOSED!

We'll have a Top 50 Tracks rollout, and I'll start with the results of the side polls later today.

Thanks To All For Taking Part!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link


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