Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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Millions of people are losing their jobs as the economy collapses in the middle of an election year and the savvy pundits on here will look down on you as an ignorant peasant if you suggest this will have any effect except to make Trump even more popular as he sails to reelection

— Galar Regional Medical Director (@weedlewobble) April 10, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 10 April 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link

“bimbo joe” biden

— law dog, esq. (@ggooooddddoogg) April 10, 2020

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

imo, you've turned the logic upside down. There are (quickly calculates) 35% of the eligible voting population that withholds their votes in every presidential election and they exert (quickly calculates) just about zero influence over the candidates.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, April 9, 2020 8:23 PM

I think this is because, rightly or wrongly, the people in that 35% are perceived as so checked out of the political process that there's virtually no point in courting them. Sanders's primary voters, on the other hand, have just shown that they're willing to get involved. That's why they (we) might have some leverage that the committed non-voters don't.

JRN, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

This is a bad idea. A really bad one, on multiple levels - for starters, it threatens the integrity of Dem voter data & puts Nov prospects in hands of a shady firm w/ a failed track record.

Plenty of orgs bid for contracts. I hope there is enough good sense to reject this one. https://t.co/8kRIog03YM

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) April 10, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 April 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

if u missed the link

In modern campaigning, control of voter data and technology is everything. Currently, the Democratic National Committee houses the party data in a tense, underfunded, and inefficient alliance with 50 state parties. But all candidates have equal access to the data, including the voter file. The party does not bar challengers to incumbents, or members of Congress who cross leadership, for instance, from accessing that voter file. But in private hands, the most up-to-date data could be withheld as a disciplinary tool against renegade candidates and lawmakers, or offered as a reward to loyalists. Winning the Biden campaign contract would give Hawkfish an opportunity to dramatically grow its data acquisition operation. Without it, Hawkfish is a big firm with no big client. Hawkfish and its leadership did not respond to multiple requests for comment. The Biden campaign declined to comment.

Waleed Shahid, spokesperson for Justice Democrats, which recruits progressive challengers to incumbents, said that Bloomberg’s firm running the party’s data operation would send the wrong signal and could have long-term, damaging repercussions. “The idea of the Democratic nominee potentially rewarding Bloomberg’s firm with this contract is disturbing,” he said. “We shouldn’t be the party of helping billionaires amass huge amounts of mega-data on voters that allow them to keep accruing obscene amounts of power in our democracy.”

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/10/bloomberg-hawkfish-biden-campaign/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 April 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link

I truly thought the fact that no one really feels personally invested in a Biden presidency would make the timeline a bit less wild this time but it's actually somehow worse because they're already preemptively blaming you for him losing

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 13, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/aoc-progressives-joe-biden.html

Good stuff from AOC about prospects of working with Biden and bringing the disparate strands of the party together. I especially liked her insistence that Biden's nomination doesn't correspond to a rejection of progressive reforms. And of course she's smart enough to recognize that defeating Trump is top priority (though I did notice she kept saying she'll support "the Democratic nominee" rather than "Joe Biden," perhaps still a bit of wishful thinking that Joe will have to be replaced?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

Excellent interview.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link

perhaps still a bit of wishful thinking

he's an old fuck, 7 months is a long time

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

small sample size, but the last three presidents who died were 93, 93, and 94. and Carter's still kicking at 95.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

that is a small sample size

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

This will infuriate some people.

NEW: Joe Biden praises Bernie Sanders: "You don't get enough credit, Bernie, for being the voice that forces us to take a hard look in the mirror and ask ourselves: 'Have we done enough?' And we haven't." https://t.co/35Zg7cQ9nU pic.twitter.com/Ebb5UAlTTS

— ABC News (@ABC) April 13, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link

I can think of one cool thing he could do to reward him

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

nah, Sanders is too old to be VP.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

propose and implement sanders' version of the green new deal?

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

no wait - better for biden to offer up the 1/10th version of Sanders' GND as a pre-emptive compromise, and then settle for 3/100th in the end as the tough cost of a hard negotiation with our good faith friends across the aisle

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

commit seppuku for shepherding Clarence Thomas’ ascent to the Supreme Court of the United States of America

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

Nominating Clarence Fucking Thomas to replace Thurgood Marshall was pure evil. For that we have to thank George H. W. Bush.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:08 (four years ago) link

nah, Sanders is too old to be VP

I agree completely, I was thinking more like stepping aside entirely, for the lols

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

aw now I think there’s plenty of thanks to go around on that front

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

I agree completely, I was thinking more like stepping aside entirely, for the lols

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, April 13, 2020

I know, I was playing along.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

Interesting and at least encouraging:

the former vice president announced that his and Sanders’s teams would convene six joint working groups devoted to various policy areas.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

who knows, given time Biden's staff might even learn how to run a decent campaign

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/F1TfyiIALi

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) April 13, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

I suggest you give up revolutionary hero worship, become a community organizer, and rise to the rank of trusted, but humble, leader through the example of your own personal sacrifice and commitment. Then report back here.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

hysterical meltdowns over this on one generally reasonable FB political group I'm in from Bernie supporters who previously never posted a single thing, including statements like "biden is worse than trump" and "I don't want to trump to win but I want biden to lose catastrophically". THe worst 5-10% of Bernie bros are having a day.

akm, Monday, 13 April 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/yIJcQYRWAF

— travis f welch (@TravisFWelch) April 12, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

Sure, and how many phone calls are Trump supporters making on behalf of Trump today? This is not an active phone banking phase of the election rn, so the question is framed stupidly to make a disingenuous point.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link

That's just good times on twitter don't sweat

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

zing culture

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 13 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

hey by the way, fuck Joe Biden, he sucks shit

silby, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link

That's zing kulcha

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

who is travis f welch? because he looks like 10000 other smug bernie supporters (glasses, facial hair, smug grin, the only thing missing is his hand pensively on his stupid chin)

akm, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

akm, we're not supposed to touch our chins these days

Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

good thing no one on this thread is ever smug

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

he has glasses!

forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

amazing how smug people pour acid in their eyes to show off how poorly they can see

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link

I put jelly on my shoulder and kiss culprits.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

glasses!

brimstead, Monday, 13 April 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link

Surprised ILX libs are going to leapfrog democratic socialism straight into Khmer nationalism.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link

icmi, Pareene:

"The nomination of Biden will ensure that, for the foreseeable future, the party will be run by people who haven’t had a new idea since 1992."

https://newrepublic.com/article/157265/democrats-decide-again-not-try-anything-new

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:17 (four years ago) link

no glasses or facial hair at this here message board

symsymsym, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 02:09 (four years ago) link

I suggest you give up revolutionary hero worship

revolutionary lol

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link

should be xyzzzz’s new dn

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 03:09 (four years ago) link

ilxor revolution lol hero = LBJ

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link

yeah he was no stalin

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link

hysterical meltdowns over this on one generally reasonable FB political group I'm in from Bernie supporters who previously never posted a single thing, including statements like "biden is worse than trump" and "I don't want to trump to win but I want biden to lose catastrophically". THe worst 5-10% of Bernie bros are having a day.

― akm

can i just say how much i dislike the word "hysterical"?

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

yep it’s time for that word to die

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:34 (four years ago) link


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