outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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thus far data and anecdata (hospitalist pals) suggests that we are doing a Good Job, Buddy here in northern new mexico. cautiously hopeful that we may come out of this OK, public health-wise, though the tourist industry has taken a huge hit

gbx, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

oh i saw this about copper fiber masks in chile too. xpost

Yerac, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

Faraday cage effect protects you from all 5 of the Gs

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

i am learning all sorts of things about copper today. Makes sense that the customs desks at the airport are all in copper.

Yerac, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

in chile that is. I was wondering.

Yerac, Monday, 13 April 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link

I thought Macron's speech last night was terrible. Firstly, the bad spray tan and wobbly camera gave it a Zoom ambiance---no one wants that! More importantly, he had rather little information and yet went on and on. Most importantly, he proposed the reopening of schools on 11 May, which is ludicrous: the schools were closed first because children are an important vector of the disease, so why open them when the disease is still rapidly spreading? There may be widespread testing available by then, but that's optimistic. As it is, it looks like children, teachers, and parents are going to be sacrificed to "get the economy restarted", so that parents can "go back to work". Président des riches, effectivement. We will be resisting.

Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 10:09 (four years ago) link

he's like a more lucid joe biden huh

davey, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

idk what i'm saying

wait why are customs desks made of copper? we would be sniffing pfid tags thru their desks or?

davey, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link

in chile they have a lot of noticeable copper around customs. Besides it being mined here, I am now assuming it's because of its anti-bacterial properties.

Yerac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

ahhh so a faraday cage for pathogens then ;p

davey, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

I actually just ordered one of these masks because it looks cool. They already make it into a textile here, not the copper mesh in the japanese article above.

Yerac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 14:58 (four years ago) link

53.6% of Chilean exports (2017). The country used to be financed by bird guano, now its copper.

speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

The country used to be financed by bird guano

source?

fauci wally (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

Birds.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

*swish*

gbx, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

gonna have to break into the strategic guano reserves if the global economy continues to tank

fauci wally (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

I was wondering more about how much demand-side was affected, but yes also about ability to traffic into the US and ability to import chemicals for fentanyl production
Don't like linking to Vice articles, but here you go:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bvgazz/sinaloa-cartel-drug-traffickers-explain-why-coronavirus-is-very-bad-for-their-business

The coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19, has thrown a massive wrench in the gears of the global economy. Seemingly every industry that relies on China for labor or raw materials has been affected, most notably companies that make medical supplies and pharmaceuticals, which are essential for treating sick people and containing the spread of the virus. Drug cartels have not been immune.
Jesús said that normally his cooks keep about a month’s supply of chemicals on hand, but they were already running low and having difficulty restocking. A cook from another Sinaloa cartel faction, who identified himself as Enrique, reported a similar problem, saying the price of acetone, which is used to manufacture heroin, has more than doubled over the past 15 days, climbing from around $60 for 20 litres to $150.

― Elvis Telecom,Monday, 13 April 2020 03:53 (yesterday) link

Lol no joke yesterday I was idly thinking to myself, "I wonder how VICE is going to find an edgy angle on Coronavirus. Probably something about drugs or drug dealers"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

We will be resisting.
― Joey Corona (Euler),Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:09 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

euler this is v.french of u. so proud

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

xp o ye of little faith
https://video.vice.com/en_us/show/shelter-in-place-with-shane-smith

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

xp Voodoo (an aside):
Pre-Haber process, guano was the main source of importing nitrogenous fertilizer and obtaining saltpeter for gunpowder in the 19th and very-early 20th century. It was a big deal and fortunes were made; the US still claims 10 islands under the Guano Islands Act of 1856.

Chile was a participant in the Chincha Islands War (1864-66), joining with Peru to defeat a Spanish claim to some guano islands off the Peruvian coast, and in the War of the Pacific (1879-84) it fought with Peru to claim Tarapacá and it's guano islands, and with Bolivia to claim the caliche nitrate deposits of the Atacama desert (and Bolivia's coastline). It's just a fascinating era of economic history, when thousands died over bird shit. Though guano depleted and exports declined, from 1884-1929 or so the main export was nitrates serving the same markets. Since the 30s, the largest export has been copper.

speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

Is that where the Guano Apes came from

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

there is a good 99% invisible about guano. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/guano-mania/

Yerac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

Oh, I get hysterical, guano-mania
Oh can you feel it, do you believe it?

☮️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

Can we call it the Trump virus yet? It happened while he was in charge and it's what he'd do with other presidents

StanM, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

the difference is that we know it doesn't make sense, and that since they don't care what we think (or even if we live or die), you're just doing a parody performance for the choir

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

(not that i don't do that parody performance quite frequently - just saying it's cathartic in a way and natural, but means nothing)

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

well since dead bodies have been shown to be contagious, i guess that is wrong. xpost.

Yerac, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

lol?

The NYT asked its writers to describe a bright thing for them during these dark times. Donald G. McNeil Jr., their great science reporter, says he can finally sleep again. "There's nothing left to warn against. Everyone - almost everyone - understands."https://t.co/iPTPAxJHqL pic.twitter.com/D65xOUgWIq

— Mark Berman (@markberman) April 14, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

Massive under-counting of pandemic deaths being probed in NYC:

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-deaths-confirmed-probable-daily-04142020.pdf

New York City today has reported 3,778 additional deaths that have occurred since March 11 and have been classified as "probable," defined as follows: “decedent [...] had no known positive laboratory test for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) but the death certificate lists as a cause of death “COVID-19” or an equivalent"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

Today will be the highest amount of reported deaths in the USA, we've already eclipsed April 10th's peak with several hours of reporting left.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

i won't make it. i gotta avoid reading articles like that because imagining that kind of hell for 2 years, even intermittent, is enough to shut down all of my optimism

(not telling anybody not to post it, just venting my own despair)

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link

They buried this at the end of that Bloomberg article (my bolding):

on-and-off social distancing measures might be needed until 2022, unless hospital capacity is increased, or effective vaccines or treatments are developed.

yeah. no effective vaccine and no effective treatment seems likely to lead to no effective response except more social distancing. or so many people have been infected that herd immunity takes over. duh.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link

Incredibly significant: Video appearing to show Guatemala health official saying deportation flight from US had between 50-75% of people test COVID-19+ -given @ICEgov packs flights, 100+ people *one flight* would be nearly as many cases as ICE has confirmed in custody *right now* https://t.co/4dl6XxO6UR

— Molly O'Toole (@mollymotoole) April 14, 2020

i mean, ICE and trump wouldn't submit migrants to unsafe conditions, lie about their covid status (or just never test them in the first place), and then deport them to another country without letting on about their condition, would they??

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 05:09 (four years ago) link

jhu usa map: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

A 106-year old woman has just been discharged from hospital in the UK after recovering from the virus.

If you can live through two world wars and two lethal global pandemics then you are basically indestructible as far as I'm concerned.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link

ha, yes, a 104-year-old guy in Oregon survived it as well

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/104-year-old-wwii-veteran-recovers-from-covid-19-celebrates-birthday/

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link

diar hoe a

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

wow what an exceedingly worthless diagram

silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

This is my favorite COVID graphing website for US/Canada. Simple and functional. And you can drill down into counties (at least in California).

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

DJI, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

as if we didn't know

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/antibody-tests-need-be-place-2nd-coronavirus-wave-cdc-director-n1182621

like I said, sex is kind of over for single people, unless Russian roulette is yr fancy

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

Given the number of deaths, USA either has truthfully had 2.5 - 3 million cases, or our mortality rate is alarmingly high, right?

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

The US ranks #14 in deaths per 1M capita (86/1M), trailing countries such as Spain(397/1M!), Belgium, Italy, France, UK, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

...but the state of New York is tracking at 552/1M and not really slowing down sadly.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

....and even then, those NY numbers are very under-reported and need to be adjusted as I posted upthread yesterday.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link

beyond galaxy brain:

“When it’s my time to go, God’s going to call me home,” Smith said. “I think that to live is inherently to take risks. I’m not concerned about this virus any more than I am about the flu.”

Smith supports Trump’s recent insinuation that he may forcibly reopen states whose governors continue to support stay-at-home orders, though it’s not clear that Trump actually has the power to do any such thing. “We are not promised a pathogen-free existence,” Smith said. “We do not have a constitutional right to not get a virus.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-loyalists-and-allies-urge-defiance-of-coronavirus-safety-measures

The Lansing protest has been embraced on “Michiganders Against Excessive Quarantine,” a growing Facebook group with more than 320,000 members. Like other critics of the current social distancing requirements, Ponkowski points to the national coronavirus death rates, which have failed to meet the direst predictions, as proof that it’s time to relax stay-at-home orders.

“They were predicting huge numbers of people falling ill and dying, and that wasn’t the case,” Ponkowski said.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

It was wholly predictable that when drastic measures produced results, some people would point to those results and claim that it proved drastic measures were never warranted.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link


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