permanent pain / scratch marks on your body are a sex / death drive stand in.
yeah, though i remember a friend's roommate a while back did a stick and poke tattoo of pissing Calvin right above his dick
― sarahell, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
educated white people should be forbidden from using terms like "cop" and "grip" to mean purchasing recorded music, especially that produced by other educated white people
― sarahell, Friday, 1 May 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
Son, you cop that new Nonesuch mixtape? That shit slaps, deadass.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 1 May 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
gonna grip all the latest erstwhile ish ... just no
― sarahell, Friday, 1 May 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
same with yassssss imo
― i am a horse girl (map), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
educated white people should be forbidden from getting stick and poke tattoos of pissing Calvin right above their dick
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link
i feel like there have been certain posts on other threads of late that would be very suited to this thread
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
the joe biden thread you mean??
― groovemaaan, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link
educated white people should stop getting tattoos of pissing biden right above their dick
― Evan, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
I'm confused about cop or grip having melanin or educational limits.
Yassssss is a sign of pure dementia for anyone but actual drag queens. And I don't believe that because I disapprove of "cultural appropriation" or anything like that. It just sounds like a bloated exhalation.
― π« (peace, man), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
educated white people should just generally stop it
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
education?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
man that's a really harsh thing to say about avant-garde polish jazz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yass_(music)
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
have always preferred the old-skool version myself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjD3EVC1-zU
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
I will make an exception for the cat in this Vine as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRNU_2Jj_oo
― π« (peace, man), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
β π« (peace, man), Friday, May 1, 2020 8:40 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
reveal your uncool conservative dad posters here
― i am a horse girl (map), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
All of my beliefs are cool and unconservative.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 May 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
the trend of calling middle-aged white women "Karen" is old fashioned sexism in the guise of intersectional wokeness
― treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
TS: X Γ A-12 vs Karen
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
― tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
whoops looks like we've got a karen here
― Mordy, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
it totally is. it's just another word for "shrew" but they tack on the "white, cis-gendered" qualifiers to make it seem more respectable. it's slur laundering.
― treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
no it isnt
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
i think the meme i have seen is that it's a nicer way of saying cunt.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
i think there has already been an analysis of the nuanced difference betweens beckys and karens.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
Which one is Anne Frank again
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
Anne with an E.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
beckys are younger i think and supposedly ditzy and don't comprehend social justice issues. karens are entitled moms who drive suv's and ask to speak to the manager.
― treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
you can't argue about uncool conservative beliefs in here this is the oh never mind
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link
i just think stereotypes aren't the way. it's not as if these terms are only being used by marginalized people or whatever. everyone online is gleefully saying women are annoying--oh i'm sorry, karens are annoying
― treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
This is one of those words where the directionality matters - it really depends on *who* is saying it.
"Karen" was invented by Black women to describe a very specific raced and gendered dynamic, where white women invoke white privilege over Black women, e.g. "demanding to speak to the manager, because they do not believe that a Black woman has authority". In these circumstances, it is not sexist, it is a useful tool describing a common power dynamic.
As soon as other people (most often cis white men) started using the term, it just became generalised to mean "any uppity white woman aspiring to authority that would go unnoticed in a white man". In this usage, yes, it is sexist, in fact it's not only sexist, but it's used by white men to point fingers at white privilege being something ~white women do~ to obscure their own white privilege.
It's complicated, but tl;dr - cis white men ruin everything.
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
vox points to a different origin for karen.
The βKarenβ meme has multiple origins, each one using the idea in slightly different ways. But one of the most prominent uses developed on Reddit, thanks to a redditor known for posting amusingly bitter invectives about his ex-wife β posts so amusing, they inspired a high school student to make an entire subreddit, r/FuckYouKaren, devoted to turning his saga into a meme.
― treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
It does seem a little mean toward actual people named Karen.
― jmm, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
it just became generalised to mean "any uppity white woman aspiring to authority that would go unnoticed in a white man"
that's a good point. is there an equivalent name for men who frequently ask to speak to the manager and that kind of shit?
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
they get called karen too now from what i have seen. branwell is good for taking the time to explain.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
I hope my sister never hears about it.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
She is pretty uppity at the best of times.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
*updates Karens in real life log*
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
Iβve never met a(n actual person named) Karen tbh.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
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this is more "reveal your joyless woke beliefs" here than anything
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
I know two Karens and they are both very nice and not like Karens at all.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
they exist!
i will say that i think the worst outcomes for irl older Karens are:
1) they actually are "Karens", and they are forced to confront the idea that the kind of behavior being lampooned/criticized is so widespread that it has spread into a global meme that just happens to be attached to the name "Karen". a real humdinger for these irl Karens. they will endure long nights of the soul. (or not!)
2) people whose names are Karen, but in no way resemble the caricature of "Karen". for these poor Karens, they will have to endure the indignity of someone occasionally saying "Karen! ahaha! oops! not you Karen! ahah!". this reminds me of my childhood, when lots of people called me Zack the lego maniac, even though i didn't really have legos (more of a k'nex' guy myself). boy was that annoying!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
My grade-school crush was a Karen! Branwell your post was succinct and perfect!
― we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plRa2kz9k1c
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
It's only in the US anyway, Karens over here have nothing to worry about.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
some of my best exes are karens : /
at least their name isn't slang for a toilet, i guess
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
i went to gradeschool with a Karen who grew up to be a "Karen" based on what I know about her.i know a NYC based Karen who is not a Karen and finds it funny when people call her "Karen" derogatorily
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
i do wonder if there is a reverse correlation between "common white girl names from the 70s and 80s used to describe horrible white women in the contemporary era" and "common white girl names from the 70s and 80s that were used in popular songs from the era" ... like the Karens and Beckys dodged bullets growing up, avoiding being mockingly serenaded as children, unlike the poor Amandas, Sarahs, and Jennys ... and now, Karens and Beckys, it's your fucking turn!!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
(I forget the Dianes ... sorry Dianes, you too had it rough in the 80s)
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
more of a specific instance, but never forget what Joe Blows went through. that wasn't fair to ya, Blows!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link