END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

Let's form all the currently progressive minded adults into two separate antagonistic blocs, one made up of non-voting hard leftists and the other made up of whatever weakened rump of moderates and liberals remain after the leftists break off.

Who said non-voting? You ran with this schtick a couple of days ago - no one has said a word about anyone 'not voting.' The idea is that this left block's votes should be for sale. Biden seems to think they are

If the 'weakened rump of moderates and liberals' in your hypothetical was, in fact, content to lose forever because the thought of moving left was such anathema... that seems like they're more comfortable with the fascists than the socialists. Strange you'd blame the left.

Biden eating shit in November wouldn't stop the cries of RUSSIA RUSSIA and we all know it. "VLAD POISONED HIM AND MADE HIM SENILE"

One would think you’d be quicker to detect when you’re being trolled

The left block's votes should be for sale and Biden should be able to buy them with policy that the left wants this is how politics works.

I agree and it's really just a Catch 22 applied to anyone to the left of John Kerry.

If the desire is framed as a need for Democrats to be better of their own volition, leftists are silly children for not recognizing the ways of the world and the fait accompli of moderation, here's three tweets from Matt Yglesias about why better things aren't possible.

If the desire is framed as a calculation that the left is needed for Democrats to win and should be encouraged to shrug off the emotional abuse of their singular culpability for the losses of Democrats now and in the future, leftists are silly brats for not accepting the fait accompli of moderation so they can be inside the room to complain when Biden's entitlement reform grand bargain is hammered out with Mitch McConnell. Biden bargained him down so that hedge fund CEOs are only allowed to harvest the skin of one person on Medicaid every quarter instead of two - how can you be mad at that?!

Old dog tomboto learning new tricks here is another shitty tweet:

wisconsin, which just held an in person election, has the same population size, density, and demographics as minnesota. practically identical.

they also have twice as many confirmed COVID cases and deaths.

wonder what that's about.

— isi breen (its pronounced ‘izzy’) (@isaiah_kb) April 15, 2020

Well shit, Uncle Joe said the magic words. Clearly he has embraced progressive policy after decades of opposition, the Overton Window is permanently shifted hallelujah hallelujah

lmao pic.twitter.com/Alh5hxqtmB

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) April 13, 2020

I guess "the left" can only be "a block of votes for sale" through organization is the thing. DSA sort of does this, but they spread their endorsements and resources judiciously in a way that I think totally makes sense for an organization of their relatively limited size and reach. I think what I am objecting to is more the sort of atomized, individualized sense of "Oh my personal disgust at Biden! The Democratic party will never get MY vote!" as though the Democratic Party is going to count up people on twitter who say that and give a shit. What I guess could be more effective is, e.g., the Bernie campaign organization agreeing to actually put manpower behind Biden in exchange for concessions, which may already be happening.

i think it is happening

I'm sure they're thrilled

No one can have a reaction but 'they'll never get MY vote,' that's the only one you get to cast.

(Unless you're in Chicago.)

And, as above, Bernie can do whatever he wants but he (literally) can't guarantee all of those individual votes for Biden. He can push Biden to make the policy concessions that will bring all of those individual votes and voters into the fold.

Khsama Sawant('s byline(?)) on the end: https://www.socialistalternative.org/2020/04/09/sanders-suspends-campaign-working-people-need-our-own-party/

SERIES PITCH: Well-meaning social democrat befriends a pro-segregationist accused of sexual assault, sharing the wackiest townhouse in DC. The thing writes itself. pic.twitter.com/a6eAwsnvyI

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) April 16, 2020

well, Perrin does to no audience.

lolol

Bernie Sanders, the liberal figure best positioned to push for concessions from Biden, so far has declined to support Elizabeth Warren as VP despite their ideological alliance, according to three people familiar with his conversations with Biden. https://t.co/fezwkouZgz

— Matt Viser (@mviser) May 5, 2020

don’t Biden and Warren hate each other?

I looove Beltway stories!

Hard to say if Bernie has enough leverage to strongly influence Biden's veep choice. I'd doubt he has much pull there. Policy concessions can be set aside after an election, but a veep is forever. plus, most prez nominees like to think their veep choices are a big factor in a winning election strategy, so Bernie could only 'win' by agreeing with Biden's personal choice.

Joe calls Michelle once a week to ask her to be VP forgetting she turned him down the first three times and now she just lets it go to voicemail.

https://i.imgur.com/XIm1PMC.png

NPG and the red hot chili peppers

we wanna change the world, the only thing that's in our way is anthony kiedes

😭😭😭

The richest 400 Americans sit on $3 trillion—the size of the entire UK economy.

The billionaire class now pays a lower tax rate than people living paycheck to paycheck.

The looting of America has been going on for over 40 years—and the culprits are the ultra-rich.

— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) June 1, 2020

and I oooop

Can we all just admit this: The transformational changes that covid, the economic crisis, police brutality and racial turbulence will force are precisely some of the things Bernie Sanders was talking about but may have sounded too extreme to some just months ago.

— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) June 8, 2020

The first response is from a Warren cultist, who have become the most predictable people on Earth.

this is the first response I saw:

I don’t recall Bernie discussing police brutality as systemic in the black community. In fact, he had racial blind spots and wanted to pivot to economic vs race...and oh btw, Seth Rogan. So, I don’t see it.

— zzmama1 (@ZZMAMA1) June 8, 2020

(shh, don't tell him, it's funnier)

Idg the Rogen dig

I don't think there's any question Bernie would not have done the "shoot em in the leg" bit but police violence wasn't in the forefront of the zeitgeist like it is now.

This was the idiot in the lead before, instead of that idiot.

No. Bernie never discussed race as a specific issue. Bernie's entire philosophy is about economic class issues. That was his fix for everything. Warren was better at incorporating both issues.

— Anita Paul (@apawlh) June 8, 2020

the commenter had the wrong rogen/rogan

Criminal justice reform was a big part of his platform. Police brutality itself was touched on in the "racial justice" section of his platform (which def existed and is still viewable: https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/) but in v broad terms. He also talked about it with Cardi B here, ha, mostly coming down to: police depts should look like the communities they serve, Dept of Justice should investigate police killings, scale back militarization of police
https://youtu.be/p1ubTsrZFBU?t=84

xp yes, I think everyone noticed

Not as much to do with Bernie as the protests, but I'll put this here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/jamaal-bowman-blm-booker-protests/613432/

Really good to see.

The numbers are coming in.

What’s going on in Kentucky, you ask???

Something big.#ShockTheWorld pic.twitter.com/RD7kVaXzgQ

— Charles Booker (@Booker4KY) June 25, 2020

Bill Clinton explicitly thanks James Clyburn "for ending, with a stroke of his hand," the Sanders campaign.pic.twitter.com/6lxMoeN0pH

— Thomas Neuburger's errant politics (@Gaius_Publius) July 31, 2020

primary = "intra-family fight"

fuck this guy and the pedo-shuttle he flew in on

God bless our democracy

Clyburn's endorsement of Biden earned him some very big chits he can redeem later on. I hope he calls them in wisely in the service of obtaining real benefits for his constituency and beyond.

either that or Obama/Biden were redeeming their own chits

very normal eulogy material

I hope he calls them in wisely in the service of obtaining real benefits for his constituency and beyond.

By constituency you mean his donors in the pharmaceutical industry, presumably.

nah. they didn't compel his endorsement, so they don't have a claim to the spoils.

lol thou art so innocent

reminds me of a recently deceased congressman saying he "didn't see (Bernie) down South" in the '60s

(that was in 2016)

bernie bros be hate-watching bill clinton speeches LOL

just building a dossier vs a likely sex criminal

xp just a thirty second clip coming over the transom tbh

bernie bros be hate-watching bill clinton speeches LOL

― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:08 PM (fifty-four minutes ago)

my friend...

reminder that the first major NY Times headline about Bernie Sanders accused him of being in the pocket of Big Poor pic.twitter.com/6HhHpisJCN

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 11, 2020

Back when I was working on Bernie’s campaign, I remember suggesting to him that we send every working family seasonably scented candles (while avoiding the gauche, like pumpkin pie), and he turned to me and said, and I quote, “I fucking love your energy bitch”

— gal debored (@ckayerawlings) November 14, 2020

I AM FUCKING SCREAMING!!!!!pic.twitter.com/MsX6bW4IBE

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) December 9, 2020