diar hoe a
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
https://imgix.bustle.com/rehost/2016/9/13/50f2d253-356b-4347-891c-2154194353e3.jpg
― ☮️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
wow what an exceedingly worthless diagram
― silby, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link
This is my favorite COVID graphing website for US/Canada. Simple and functional. And you can drill down into counties (at least in California).
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
― DJI, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
as if we didn't know
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/antibody-tests-need-be-place-2nd-coronavirus-wave-cdc-director-n1182621
like I said, sex is kind of over for single people, unless Russian roulette is yr fancy
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
Given the number of deaths, USA either has truthfully had 2.5 - 3 million cases, or our mortality rate is alarmingly high, right?
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link
The US ranks #14 in deaths per 1M capita (86/1M), trailing countries such as Spain(397/1M!), Belgium, Italy, France, UK, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Ireland...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
...but the state of New York is tracking at 552/1M and not really slowing down sadly.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
....and even then, those NY numbers are very under-reported and need to be adjusted as I posted upthread yesterday.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
beyond galaxy brain:
“When it’s my time to go, God’s going to call me home,” Smith said. “I think that to live is inherently to take risks. I’m not concerned about this virus any more than I am about the flu.” Smith supports Trump’s recent insinuation that he may forcibly reopen states whose governors continue to support stay-at-home orders, though it’s not clear that Trump actually has the power to do any such thing. “We are not promised a pathogen-free existence,” Smith said. “We do not have a constitutional right to not get a virus.”
Smith supports Trump’s recent insinuation that he may forcibly reopen states whose governors continue to support stay-at-home orders, though it’s not clear that Trump actually has the power to do any such thing. “We are not promised a pathogen-free existence,” Smith said. “We do not have a constitutional right to not get a virus.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-loyalists-and-allies-urge-defiance-of-coronavirus-safety-measures
The Lansing protest has been embraced on “Michiganders Against Excessive Quarantine,” a growing Facebook group with more than 320,000 members. Like other critics of the current social distancing requirements, Ponkowski points to the national coronavirus death rates, which have failed to meet the direst predictions, as proof that it’s time to relax stay-at-home orders.“They were predicting huge numbers of people falling ill and dying, and that wasn’t the case,” Ponkowski said.
“They were predicting huge numbers of people falling ill and dying, and that wasn’t the case,” Ponkowski said.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
It was wholly predictable that when drastic measures produced results, some people would point to those results and claim that it proved drastic measures were never warranted.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
imagine when they see how big our military budget is, despite the fact that the US hasn't been invaded like ever
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
sad lol
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
imagine the measures we'd be taking if 25,000 americans had been killed over the last month by brown people
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link
neat mapshttps://www.inverse.com/science/data-reveal-air-pollution-levels-plummet-as-world-goes-on-lockdown
― nashwan, Thursday, 16 April 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link
fucking McKinsey
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-governors-excl/exclusive-new-york-taps-mckinsey-to-develop-trump-proof-economic-reopening-plan-idUSKCN21Y01V
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 April 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link
“When it’s my time to go, God’s going to call me home,” Smith said. “I think that to live is inherently to take risks. I’m not concerned about this virus walking out into fast-moving traffic any more than I am about the flu.”“We are not promised a pathogen-free impact injuries-free existence,” Smith said. “We do not have a constitutional right to not get a virus mown down by 18-wheeler trucks.”
“We are not promised a pathogen-free impact injuries-free existence,” Smith said. “We do not have a constitutional right to not get a virus mown down by 18-wheeler trucks.”
― I got 5G on it (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link
do these people realize that Applebees is not gonna reopen because they chose to be dumbasses
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
They do not
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
The thing is, given any kind of easing of restrictions, some places will open, and impatient people will flock to those places, and pretty soon we'll all be right back on lockdown again.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
'we need our mojo back'
Dr. Oz just made the argument that we should reopen schools because *only* 2-3% of kids will die. pic.twitter.com/yKaHEybZqj— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) April 16, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link
Mr. Mojo Risible
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link
tbf it's not the kids who are gonna die, not that it makes this any less dumb
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
"mmmm....appetizing!"
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
Some friends of mine that have mostly taken a smart approach to things until now are starting to argue for reopening the NYC economy soon and it's causing me some distress. They're not even people who have suffered any personal economic losses as a result yet (other than maybe in their 401ks). They are posting stuff like "NYC needs to start reopening businesses by May 1!" and "School not starting in September is out of the question!" Like, you might as well say "The hurricane will just have to tack east, end of story."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
“It’s simply unsustainable”
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
I just keep thinking about that tweet about people who "want to speak to the manager of Coronavirus." Maybe it's too glib but it's very accurate.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
I spoke to the coronavirus and it didn't give a shit, sorry
― kinder, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link
man alive, sounds like your friends are bored. so bored. it is the absolutely worst to be that bored.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link
such survivors.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
I mean, the only nod I give the "It's simply unsustainable" crowd is that, considering we have virtually no safety nets in place and a ruling party that actively wants the poor to die off, they aren't wrong - it's not sustainable in terms of our country adequately taking care of the 22 million out of work people (so far!) for many months. That part isn't sustainable.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
I think 'managing the discontent' is going to be an increasingly prominent problem that the government is going to have to deal with. in some cases it might mean making a slightly suboptimal public health decision because the discontent is going to come with its own costs.
― iatee, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
xp I'm aware it's trite as fuck, but that line about "it is easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism" - it turns out that's pretty much on the money, yeah.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
Boredom is a big factor, I'm itching to get out there and do stuff even though I realize it's not wise.
Also, can't discount the fact that over 20M people suddenly lost their jobs. That's a whole lot of pissed off people that probably want things sorted out sooner than later.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
Wisconsin extends stay at home order until May 26, school year officially cancelled
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
Did cases blow up after election day?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link
Ohio to reopen, somehow, May 1st.
― brownie, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
or begin to reopen I guess
― brownie, Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles),Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:14 (two hours ago) link
People who have the disease "want things sorted out sooner than later" too, but sometimes things just don't work that way. There is no "let's reopen the economy and change our ideas about the acceptable level of death." Even if you wanted to accept that kind of grim calculation, it wouldn't work. The economy would not just go back to functioning normally.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
i do not take any reopening announcements or dates seriously
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
except for the ones that are like "maaaybe 2022?!" agreed
more seriously, I think the idea that we'll cycle in and out of quarantines makes sense to me
― dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link
yeah agreed, it's gonna be a slow and painful process
― zoomer death circus (sleeve), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
'reopening the economy' is complete propaganda. the government has the money to spend, they just don't want to give it to people who aren't corporations.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
I'll believe in 'reopening the economy' when I see everyone who wants tested getting tested, with very low rates of false positives and false negatives, followed soon after by effective contact tracing.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
like, the market has been rallying for weeks now based upon this optimism of a future where things are not that much different except stuff will be pricier and large companies were given millions/billions to get them to that future point. and normal people will let any kind of real change slip away because they want to go back to a normal that was pretty unsustainable anyway.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
It's not just red hatters and greedy corporate overlords who want to end the quarantine. I know plenty of parents of young kids who are fucking tearing their hair out right now. I can't wait for this shit to end so I can play some music with friends and go to a restaurant.
But yeah, Aimless' approach seems reasonable.
I've heard that Cisco is planning to keep everyone WFH until there is a vaccine, but that was second-hand info.
― DJI, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
i think "reopening the economy" will look a lot like how Sweden never "closed" their economy. their movie theater sales are at 1% compared to last year at this time, for example. like a lot of things trump stamps his name on, "reopening the economy" might be something that sounds legit and is enough to fool people who don't look into it
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
a popular brunch/breakfast spot a few blocks away hasn't technically closed - they're doing delivery and pick-up orders and have 6-ft social distancing lines going down the sidewalk around the corner. but walking by it, i haven't seen anyone there, ever, and the delivery car is always sitting out front in the same parking spot. trump can say that chicago is open for business, but i don't think it's going to make a difference for that shop
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
I know plenty of parents of young kids who are fucking tearing their hair out right now.
TBF, I think this was a major factor in one of my friends' seemingly losing her mind after weeks of very cogent analysis of the situation.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
yeah, i was making no comment on that one because I don't like the idea of schools and teachers being used as childcare when that is unfortunately reality.
― Yerac, Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link