I see the one link above--has this been posted?
http://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/17/836747242/in-south-korea-a-growing-number-of-covid-19-patients-test-positive-after-recover
My day right now basically amounts to an endless loop of "That's good news"--"Hey, that's not good"--"I like that"--"Wait a minute, uh-oh"--etc.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/ftse100-optimism-potential-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir#maincontent
This seems like good news?
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link
During his live briefing today, Andrew Cuomo was informed that Trump was watching and had been rage-tweeting about him, and Cuomo launched into a several-minutes-long tirade that boiled down to "turn the fucking TV off and do your fucking job, stop expecting congratulations for doing the absolute minimum you should be doing, and stop trying to take credit for shit that's outside of your grasp anyway, like opening the states up."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
is that trump started demanding that people liberate their states?
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
is that ^when^
no, according to the NYT he started LIBERATE tweeting right after Fox covered the michigan protests
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
I wish someone would LIBERATE his [redacted] from his [redacted]
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
Cuomo's response starts around 1:16:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k3ri7oBXe8
― clemenza, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
"What am I supposed to do--send a bouquet of flowers?"
― clemenza, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
Ugh. Just say "I don't want to talk about what the president is tweeting" and move on.
― DJI, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced on Friday that all “non-essential permitted events” in May are cancelled, such as parades, concerts, and rallies, due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
(xpost) He does go on, but I think Cuomo's entitled.
"Thank you for participating in a modicum of federal responsibility in a national crisis...thank you for having the federal government participate in a federal emergency."
― clemenza, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
Trump is such a troll and the media just lap it up. It's insane that they will interrupt a press conference to tell the speaker whatever fucking crap Trump JUST TWEETED. Trump can turn ANYTHING into something about him immediately now, and everyone keeps falling for it.
― DJI, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
tbf having a troll for POTUS is a novel situation
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 April 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
A staffer for New Mexico governor condemns the "death cult" that is not accepting the dangers of COVID-19. The NM GOP condemns the staffer, demands an apology.Spokesman for the governor notes, "Umm..the tweet says nothing about the GOP. You see yourselves as a death cult?"— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) April 17, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 17 April 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link
lmao
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 17 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
lol
― silby, Friday, 17 April 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
oof, that's a hearty, painful lol. i needed that
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link
on a certain level I'm relieved that trump is doing stuff like tweeting 'liberate michigan' instead of projecting the tiniest bit of competence. president pence would probably have a 60% approval rating right now. (otoh the liberate michigan tweet is gonna kill some people.)
― iatee, Friday, 17 April 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
The pivot from "It's nothing" to "I always said this was serious and it's completely under control" to "I don't have any responsibility, I've been perfect" to "it's the Governors who suck" to "my authority is total" to "okay Governors better step up" to "citizens of states should just overthrow their Governors because FREEDOM". Is... just...
I'm dizzy and not just from vodka
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 April 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link
it's working, because we're talking about trump rather than the fact that 2000 americans are gonna die of this today
― mookieproof, Friday, 17 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link
I hear you, mookieproof, but I'm not sure ignoring him helps people either.
I mean, he is, in large part, the fucking problem. To stop talking about his rhetorical postures would only help the sick people if we also did something else, which is... what?
And given the extent to which his bullshit is, in fact, killing people? I kinda think him and his bullshit are relevant to the topic. It's a balance, surely?
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
it seems like a bad idea to encourage supporters to gather en masse right now in critical swing states but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what do i kno
― Mordy, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link
for weeks these governors have been forced to kiss his ass in order to get supplies, I have zero problam w/ any of them landing some punches now
and as YMP says, ignoring him doesn't help either, so at least put forward the counter-narrative
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
"Liberate (insert state with Dem governor here) and save your great 2nd Amendment" is fucking treasonous, and should not be ignored.
― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
Perhaps we can get in touch with those mysterious Chinese scientists to engineer a pathogen that makes magaheads only infect and/or shoot themselves and/or one another?
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
The Screwtheflyover Solution
― dip to dup (rob), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link
god that's bad sorry
Trump uses the gun issue as the strongest dog whistle he can use to call out his supporters. It's like his security blanket. You know he's going to use it early and often, especially when he's feeling like he's in a weak position.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
yeah that sucks xp
― gbx, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
little too much overlap with the politics threads here but the sooner we can get "death cult" trending the better IMO
― zoomer death circus (sleeve), Friday, 17 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
it is, but it will be. after the GOP proved once and for all that they'd protect him no matter what, during the ancient time of the impeachment of late January 2020, everyone said "now he will really be unbound". i guess no one could predict it would happen like this, but now he really can just order his followers to rebel against their governors (democratic, in swing states, of course) with guns in tow, and there's not much that anyone can do. it's not really a far jump from right to shooting someone on 5th avenue. he was right about that.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link
The controversial Stanford COVID-19 study referenced upthread results were finally published:
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Santa-Clara-antibody-test-coronavirus-results-case-15208216.php
Researchers estimate that if 2.5 to 4.2 percent of the county has already been infected, the true number of total cases in early April — both active and recovered — ranges between 48,000 and 81,000. The county had reported just under 1,000 cases at the time the study was conducted, which would mean cases are being underreported by a factor of 50 to 85.
My in-laws live in that particular county and I'm convinced that my immediate family all came down with some nasty virus with COVID-19 symptoms in January and it hung around into February in some cases.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
I should also mention that particular county has been the hardest hit by COVID-19 with 69 deaths/1.9M pop = ~36 deaths per million.The county I live in is tracking at ~22/M.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
hardest hit LOCALLY*, these numbers are miniscule compared to other parts of the country, such as Bronx/Queens.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
today a patient told me that the virus came from a lab in China and they’re about to attack us with a second virus and we should nuke China now like we should’ve nuked them before since they attacked us in WWII
― jack (unobtrusive ambient poll participant), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
yeah don't worry about her. my mom believes some crazy shit but not too many people listen to her other than my dad
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
Karl, you need no reminders about how many people live in a bizarro world, but it is disconcerting for most of us to find one in the wild, confidently spouting their craziness, based in some alternate reality where alien lizards dressed a humans run the world.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
it's sad because my mom also believes in reptilians
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link
now he really can just order his followers to rebel against their governors (democratic, in swing states, of course) with guns in tow, and there's not much that anyone can do.
We may find out where Biden's "He has blood on his hands" tipping point is. Or if it exists.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
i modified a helpful infographic to incorporate a very strong point of view that was missing
https://i.imgur.com/ES3Khj8.jpg
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link
Great! I'm convinced you could come up with something that Trump would tweet out.
― clemenza, Friday, 17 April 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
trump was even earlier! i mean, he was the very first person, and the last, to know what a big deal this would be, and also how overblown it is, but also how he fucking NAILED that response!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 April 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
This describes well why I've done almost 100% of my shopping the past month at the small independent rather than the big chain store (normally it's like 80/20).
http://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/business/small-grocery-stores-rural-america-coronavirus/index.html
But long-term, yes, small independents are probably going to be hurt badly.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
I wish I had the option, but i'm 'vulnerable.' The smaller ones around me are generally failing to stay on the delivery grid.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:58 (four years ago) link
we are so so close to the culmination of the human lawmaking project, a state in which it is literally impossible not to be committing a crime at all times https://t.co/kQcqAEvJNr— flglmn (@flglmn) April 17, 2020
Fed purchases of assets in week starting March 23 2020 were simply staggering. Matching entire BofE and ECB programs in a matter of days. https://t.co/v7G0FiAaGc pic.twitter.com/0SJ6w6hQKf— Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) April 18, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 April 2020 07:18 (four years ago) link
This is interesting how New Zealand may yet mis-manage their response to covid:
https://duncanlaw.wordpress.com/2020/04/17/new-zealand-should-start-testing-health-and-aged-care-workers-for-sars-cov-2
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 April 2020 09:39 (four years ago) link
so deaths in NYC were declining earlier this week, and then spiked over the past two days, with over a thousand dead in one day; was that due to a change in classifications and attribution of deaths to the virus, or were there really more numbers in aggregate?
― akm, Saturday, 18 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
just asking the question here first, as this is sort of like central command for all the covid19 threads:
can i start a thread about people dedicated to people protesting the stay-at-home orders? there are endless stories of people doing it already, we've got a president who urges people to do it (in the name of gun rights!), there's a growing sense of "identity" among the people who feel the urge to do it, and also it's going to kill a lot of people, if it hasn't already. is this the thread? is there another thread? can ilx stand another covid19 thread? can ilx remain united when there's not a dedicated place for powerful thoughts such as
Stephen Moore says the right-wing activists protesting stay-at-home orders are — I’m not joking — “modern-day Rosa Parks” https://t.co/m8eXpLQ2R0 pic.twitter.com/3CldS6H0Vb— Amanda Terkel (@aterkel) April 18, 2020
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link