Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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BIDEN: "Um, you know, there's a, uh, during World War II, uh, you know, where Roosevelt came up with a thing, uh, that, uh, you know, was totally different than a- than the- it's called, he called it, the, you know, the World War II, he had the war- the the War Production Board." pic.twitter.com/CwFSW2UITD

— Eddie Zipperer (@EddieZipperer) April 17, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 April 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDafkrLWI-s

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

"...one of the least attentive and most divisive presidents..."

yes, drag him Joe, least attentive

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 18 April 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/493276-biden-assembling-white-house-transition-team

Biden also said he would consider Republicans for some top level positions within his administration.

“One advantage of being around a long time is you get to know an awful lot of people. In the private sector, in the public sector, people who are committed — first and foremost — are thoroughly honorable,” he said.

“I have had literally several hundred serious, serious players who have been held positions in every department in the federal government who have said, including some Republicans, who have said if you win, I want to come back. I’m ready to serve,” he added.

John Bolton, NSA

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link

why are you recommending Bolton to Biden?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

The average American just has no conception of the cruelty and greed of the Republican Party. I think far more people consider republicans to be basically good-faith actors who just happen to disagree with democrats. Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone, let alone Joe Biden, is going to disabuse them of this notion by November.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 18 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

jfc he is so bad

Donald Trump says he’s a wartime president — it’s time for him to act like one.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) April 18, 2020

frogbs, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

what if he meant Jefferson Davis though?

dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Perhaps the average American doesn’t grasp the evil of the GOP because people like Joe Biden keep working to rehabilitate their image and stature among non-psychopaths?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

Stevie and myself aren't the only Brits doing this.

This cycle of journalists and politicians screaming “Fuck you all swine, your views are worthless” at members of the public then wondering why those people don’t want to help them out is not going to end until we’re all guarding our vegetable patches with shotguns. pic.twitter.com/cfBdU7cXSC

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) April 18, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

ha -- I know Dorian.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

And those people quoted are gross.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

Yeah, former ilx, some of his views on Brit politics aren't so hot either.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

There was an active Brit contributor to Ask A Drunk for several years in the early 2000s whose handle was Lynskey. Same?

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

Sources in the story said they're considering voting for Trump. Fuck them and their stupidity.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

good to see there are still people willing to pay roulette with their privilege

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

Aimless - don't know about that, not a reg on Ask A Drunk

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

good to see there are still people willing to pay roulette with their privilege

People interviewed with any sort of details about them:
31 year old woman, nursing studen
24 year old black man
rural railroad worker, head of his union local
Dominican-American manual laborer

Only one person indicates that they'll vote for Trump, from what I can see - a middle-aged guy with diabetes who, for rather obvious reasons, is pretty deadset for M4A.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

Non-voters are, of course, poorer and less likely to be white than voters. The absolute height of privilege.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

i'm talking about Dorian Lynskey, dummy

genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 April 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

Donald Trump left our country unprepared and unprotected for the worst public health and economic crisis in our lifetime — and now we're paying the price. pic.twitter.com/aCxcqQqUqw

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) April 18, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 18 April 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

THIS is the line of attack?

wtf

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

Don't pay attention to what Biden is tweeting. No one else is. He could tweet his 12 step plan to turn the world into the Garden of Eden and no one would notice right now. His account tweeting anything is just pro forma at the moment.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

maybe he should try doing pro forma better

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:20 (four years ago) link

it's a campaign ad

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:20 (four years ago) link

unfortunately i think that tweet isn't an outlier - it's part of the "strategy" of his campaign along with the DNC:

The group's "Beijing Biden" ads herald Trump's travel restrictions from China while declaring that "for 40 years, Joe Biden has been wrong about China," spliced with ominous music, footage of Biden with President Xi Jinping and ending with insignia of the red and yellow Chinese flag on the Democrat’s face.

The Biden campaign rebutted it in videos from the former vice president and foreign policy adviser Tony Blinken, which hit Trump for eliminating U.S. pandemic preparedness resources and for praising China's "efforts and transparency" in its virus response.

His campaign held a Friday call with reporters featuring Blinken and Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio. The Democratic National Committee issued a memo saying it was Trump who “rolled over for China.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/coronavirus-turns-china-2020-election-issue-trump-biden-clash-n1186611

there are a million ways to criticize trump on coronavirus. this would seem to be one of the worst, least effective ways to do it.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link

counting on xenophobia / racism

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 April 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

counting on xenophobia / racism

there's a lot of that going around these days

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link

We should all just be thankful Keir Starmer hasn't yet given any major speeches for Biden to borrow.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 19 April 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link

would really degrade the white house if a plagiarist became president

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Sunday, 19 April 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link

xp - I can think of at least three more cogent reasons than that to be thankful right now.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 03:44 (four years ago) link

I really don’t think it’s counting on anti-Chinese racism as much as it is the usual disappointing Democratic foreign policy instinct of always trying to prove “we’re tough on communists / terrorists / etc too!!!” in kneejerk response to any suggestion by the GOP that they might not be. Decades of the consultant class and dem natsec professionals have been raised on this.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 April 2020 03:53 (four years ago) link

Thus was it ever. The biggest reason LBJ pushed so hard on the Vietnam War was fear that the Republicans would smear him as soft on communism and accuse him of "losing Indochina" in the way that Mao's victory turned into poisonous accusations of "losing China". The irony is that before WWII, the Republicans were just as harsh on FDR about "foreign entanglements" and rode isolationism just as hard as they later Red-baited every Democrat.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

"would really degrade the white house if a plagiarist became president"

- Neil Kinnock

nickn, Sunday, 19 April 2020 05:09 (four years ago) link

JUst had the same supposedly left wing person who was slagging off AOC for not being working class enough try to present Biden asa paedophiile. Is that widespread now?
JUst not what the worlkd needs right now, apathy in voiting caused by people wh ostill think voting 3rd party in the next election is going to be a good idea. When surely everybody who can vote needs to vote against trump which would mean Democrat at least for this year's election. surely?
try to get things back to some form of normality before trying to reform the politicial set up in the US that's prevailed for the last decades.
Hate to think what is going to happen if there isn't enough vote for the opposite party to the world's #1 problem.

Biden wouldn't have been my ideal candidate but he's the one that is currently in place. Not to say taht things might change over the next few months re the current pandemic and him being the age he is and all.

Stevolende, Sunday, 19 April 2020 11:05 (four years ago) link

Nothing can degrade the presidency. The WH is the HQ of Murder Inc and always has been, moreso since Americans became "internationalists."

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 April 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link

leftists are just as susceptible to absurd propaganda as stupid right wing nutsos. xpost.

akm, Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

Biden ad is a response to this forthcoming approach from the Trump campaign:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-team-sees-edge-in-linking-Biden-to-China-15210585.php

Positions by both of them are fucking stupid and this is only going to speak to the worst subset of potential voters.

akm, Sunday, 19 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

the race to the bottom is gen how these things go

akm, I think you mean stupid Democrats are just as susceptible

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link

according to the rules, stupid votes count the same as smart votes. well, roughly speaking. in presidential elections, stupid votes in Wyoming and Alaska count the most.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

try to get things back to some form of normality before trying to reform the politicial set up in the US that's prevailed for the last decades.

This is exactly the opposite of how it works. You can "this is not the time for good things!!!" every election from now until Florida is mostly saltwater.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

"until"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link

It's never the right time to do good things, or criticize Democrats, say some

"incrementalism" will surely fix our current troubles

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

the USA has experienced several abrupt political shifts in the past. it could happen again. but it is much more fruitful to criticize bad policy as bad and talk up what is needed and why it would be good than to aim blanket criticism at The Democrats or The Republicans, which just amplifies the current tribalism and codifies the impasse.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

incrementalism is literally the only thing that has ever changed public policy

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link

the new deal was pretty radical

treeship., Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

we don't need revolution, but we need a renewed social contract.

we need something like.... a green new deal.

treeship., Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

The Civil War was relatively abrupt

silby, Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

but let’s pretend M4A would even be part of a major candidate’s platform without the ACA, that’s fun

the new deal was the product of decades of organization and policy shaping before the depression actually hit

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link

the civil war was not remotely abrupt

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 April 2020 19:49 (four years ago) link


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