Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

xpost ah i'm sure you're right, i didn't mean to imply he was an alcoholic and quit, i just knew he didn't drink now but wasn't sure if that was a lifelong thing or not. now i'm thinking i read that his dad was an alcoholic or something, and that's what put him off the stuff?

Biden should start visibly committing crimes just to see how long people stick with him as the lesser of two evils. Rob a Wendy’s in broad daylight. Carjack somebody

— california guy now (@InternetHippo) April 27, 2020

irony or ironies but i'd still vote for him if he shot someone on 5th Avenue.

irony OF ironies

Wiki

b.^ Obama had a Bud Light, Crowley had a Blue Moon, Gates had a Sam Adams Light and Biden, who does not drink alcohol, had a Buckler, which is a low-alcohol beer.[82] Some local brewers had lobbied for a Boston-based beer to be served; Obama is generally said to prefer Budweiser.[70]

Oh ffs, none of it is sinister but the whole thing just screams LAME

When I am president all meetings will begin with mandatory shots of JAMES. MUTHAFLIPPIN. BEAM.

as a nondrinker I will say Buckler is a really bad nonalcoholic beer even by that pretty sorry standard.

drinkin' joe

As a journalism guy, I wish the BI reporters had asked and published (maybe they asked but didn't go on the record) the new on-the-record corroborators' responses to the question about why Reade's story changed from an allegation of sexual harassment/hair touching/neck feeling to an allegation of sexual assault -- what did they think when she originally limited the allegation to the former?

Also, as awful as times were in 1993 even after the Hill-Thomas hearings, the reputations of Biden bros Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd were well known. Everyone knew them as skirt chasers and hosts of boozy parties with lots of women. Had Biden conducted himself in the manner Reade describes, I'd think the Obama vetting team -- working for the first winning black male candidate in a country where black men were accused of every rancid crime and was himself called a Kenyan commie -- would have caught...something? I guess vetting teams can suck too.

I'm not committed to Biden. If there were a way to replace him without upsetting Dem turnout, I'd onboard. I just don't see a way in which it happens. So I'm stuck voting for the lesser of two sexual assaulters because the other one is the most dangerous president in American history.

https://i.imgur.com/3wkQJdm.jpg

the most dangerous president in American history

this is a case I have yet to see made convincingly

you gotta give him top five, cmon he's earned it

this is a case I have yet to see made convincingly

^ this --- about a man who very clearly has never cared about or loved any person on earth except himself and displays profound ignorance of every aspect of his job, which job just happens to affect every person on the planet (people who he mostly sees as inhuman and unworthy of his slightest consideration).

???

but enough about Joe Biden!

clever, but Biden is not in Trump's league in terms of narcissism and ignorance.

Aimless, the award is for "worst/most harmful President", not "worst person to be President"

Simon, you read American newspapers?

I'm getting bored of this line about Bush being worse because he killed people overseas

It’s always hilarious when Alfred says something completely reasonable on these threads and then one of the usual suspects can’t help but pipe up with “hard to see how Trump is worse!!!!”

no, "most dangerous" is not quite the same as "most harmful". if somehow a religious nut who yearned for Armageddon and eagerly sought the end of the world were sworn in as president they would immediately present a catastrophic danger, even before their first official act.

But enough about George W Bush!

sorry you're bored Alfred

Bush? He had his chance and let it pass.

I'm sorry. I'll retract.

most dangerous president a Republican

I'm getting bored of this line about Bush being worse because he killed people overseas

"Love Me I'm A Liberal (2020 Rona Remix)"

you don't dance

jfc

.@JoeBiden to hold virtual “Women’s Town Hall” tomorrow focusing on COVID-19 & featuring a “special guest”

— Bo Erickson CBS (@BoKnowsNews) April 27, 2020

If Sanders had tweeted something similar would it have merited a 'jfc'?

What a disgusting little turd he is

Aimless you drip

Sanders isn’t trying to make a sexual assault allegation go away right now (he’s also not the presumptive nominee) (he’s also not a disgusting turd of a human)

If Sanders had tweeted something similar would it have merited a 'jfc'?

... no.

Sorry I didn’t drink bleach when you told me to though

I know you and Donald Trump were praying fervently for my suicide but I’m not up for it

check your memory against what "search' shows you that I wrote. that 'drink bleach' thing you've repeated about five or six times now is inaccurate, but it makes for a good story, so I see why your brain changed the facts to suit your desire.

xp - then would you please discover that it is just as possible to drink raw sewage or hit yourself on the head with a hammer for no reason at all? thanks.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, April 6, 2020 8:06 PM (three weeks ago)

My apologies, motherfucker, you told me to drink sewage not bleach, oh my stars, how dare I misrepresent the way you told me to kill yourself

go fuck yourself Aimless

you seem to go out of your way to make enemies that you can indulge your strong desire to bully or provoke.

WHICH OF US TOLD THE OTHER OF US TO DRINK SEWAGE

For FUCK'S SAKE

I'm getting bored of this line about Bush being worse because he killed people overseas

And people with actual compassion for other human beings that have been maimed and killed by the US regardless of the color of their skin or country of origin are tired of ghouls like you vomiting trash like this as if such opinions aren't completely vile and worthless. It's nice that you operate from a position of privilege great enough that your engagement with politics gets to be a topical pissing contest where you weigh your outrage over whichever's President's crimes "bore" you the least in the present moment like a gameshow where there's a prize to be won for "getting it right" between who's more evil between Bush and Trump. But some of us don't treat empathy as a finite resource that has to be rationed out or conserved for whatever president's transgressions are more current and hip to be upset about just to feign moral superiority over others on social media. You can care about the people Trump's failed and killed with the pandemic response AND the innocent people and communities literally blown to pieces by Bush! But if atrocities committed by Presidents before 2016 bore you so much that the mere mention of them tires you out too much to care about them then I guess it can't be helped...

are you finished, troll?

I'm a gay brown Miamian targeted by Bush and Trump, Mr. Trevor Phillips with two l's, with a written record all over the interwebs on Bush's atrocities who knows men and women killed by them. What you got, sister?

Face it, Alfred, this trevor phillips really is holier than thou. We have his word for it.

Aimless, the award is for "worst/most harmful President", not "worst person to be President"

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, April 27, 2020 9:22 PM (two hours ago)

to be honest i think trump is still a contender for the "most harmful" spot. the iraq war is worse than any single thing trump has done so far, but he's a worse president than bush in every other way. and frankly i'd be shocked if trump didn't end up causing an iraq-level catastrophe in a second term. that said, i wouldn't argue if anyone wanted to say that bush was worse because of iraq.

the only ‘good’ thing about Trump is that it’s pretty much mask off for conservatives and lib scolds who never really gave much of a duck about the things they pretended to

fuck a duck

people, let's not have the worst president debate, let's just get another one who can enjoy Kennedy Center Honors AND rip kids apart with bombs at the same time

fuck a duck

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), M

no thanks

i'm sure that not voting for biden will hasten utopia

The "worst ever" argument is always a little odd to me. There's no point in comparing trump or Bush to Andrews Johnson or Jackson, whose enduring legacy of genocide/white supremacy is pretty hard to beat in the long view (then there are the presidents who literally enslaved people). Likewise, when people bring up the death toll in iraq + Bush, that makes sense, but oddly I rarely hear JFK/LBJ/Vietnam mentioned in the worst-ever convo or McKinley/Philippines or etc. etc.

All that said I think it's possible trump is presiding over a period of american historical decline that might in retrospect be more significant than, say, Bush's