Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

this tweet from Alyssa Milano seems to implicitly accept that the allegations are true (without saying that explicitly) but we should still vote for Biden anyway - we see you and hear you, but won't actually do anthing because that would be using you as fodder?

I’m aware of the new developments in Tara Reade’s accusation against Joe Biden. I want Tara, like every other survivor, to have the space to be heard and seen without being used as fodder. I hear and see you, Tara. #MeToo

— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) April 28, 2020

I don't know if more of Biden's supporters will shift to this position as they decide that saying Reade is lying (or ignoring the allegations all together) are not viable options any more? could Biden actually be elected in an environment even his most prominent supporters and media surrogates are publicly saying they believe that he sexually assaulted a woman and is wrongly accusing his victim of being a liar through his denials? I know Trump was elected in similar circumstances, but more of supporters were willing to just brazen it out or deny everything

Fair enough, thanks for the honest response. Genuinely wasn't trying to call anyone out, just trying to understand.

(xpost)

who is prominently backing Biden, other than Barack Obama and some people who were running for president two months ago?

A little hint about who the surprise guest will be for @JoeBiden's 3pm ET town hall today:

(She's excited.) pic.twitter.com/iGHo6a6G1s

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) April 28, 2020

(I'm with her.) https://t.co/jLPeaGv5Mo

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) April 28, 2020

aside from the question of how many voters care about the allegations themselves, if your most prominent backers are having to heavily caveat their endorsements, that makes you look weak

exactly

Yes, it's not great.

hopefully a House committee will take up investigation of Biden's sex crimes if he's elected

The Dems will likely hold the House, so don't count on it

I expect the Dems to hold the house regardless. They should investigate whoever the president is, probably.

i think he will step down. you can't be the democratic nominee in 2020, three years into #metoo, with something like this hanging over your campaign.

― treeship., Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:36 (two hours ago) link

Lol on the contrary, it's #metoo that's finished

Notable: @SenGillibrand asked today on a conference call about Tara Reade allegations of assault by @JoeBiden. She says, “I stand by Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women and he has vehemently denied this allegation.” Per @JulieNBCNews

— Mike Memoli (@mikememoli) April 28, 2020

Jesus Christ

many xps

well, yeah

NEWS: Top Bernie Sanders adviser Jeff Weaver is behind a new super PAC aimed to rally progressives behind Joe Biden. It's called Future to Believe In PAC.

And Weaver is teaming up with ex-Sanders adviser Mark Longabaugh.https://t.co/XhDUDLuBGj

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) April 28, 2020

wow, really wish i hadn't read this thread or returned to ilx in the first place tbh

yall suck

(with a few exceptions who chose not to hold lengthy-ass court on the credibility of a sexual assault survivor's story)

UPDATE: Just spoke to Jeff Weaver.

He told me Bernie Sanders "is not supportive of this super PAC.”

Weaver added, "He certainly would prefer we had not done it through a super PAC" but "each of us has to make our own decision about how to move forward.” https://t.co/XhDUDLuBGj

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) April 28, 2020

Didn't a Hoos say that Weaver was hated by rank and file Sanders organizers?

Don't remember if this got posted yesterday:

Today I am announcing my endorsement of @JoeBiden for President of the United States.

VP Biden is a deeply dedicated public servant with the ability to unite the American people. I am moved by his compassion and ability to connect with people on the most human level.

— Pramila Jayapal (@PramilaJayapal) April 27, 2020

fuck the whole Democratic Party forever

yall suck

We coulda had Warren, but she sucked at drawing out anyone not part of a white professional class.

wish we had Warren

If only there had been a markedly more popular and successful candidate with (allegedly) the same policies.

I know! And he lost almost as humiliatingly.

nominate fuckin mr peanut who gives a shit, just shitcan the rapist

mr peanut died its baby nut now

shit

this world is dead

"I support Tom Eagleton 1000%"

Will perhaps write a strongly worded letter to Jayapal

“connect with people on the most basic human level” by grabbing them imo

what about HRC?

lol. j/k

xp

Jesus Christ

nominate fuckin mr peanut who gives a shit, just shitcan the rapist

otm

there were so many people angry at trump about this. i thought they were actually mad about what he had done? turns out most of them were just excited because they thought it would bring him down

i think the pollsters would be astonished that mr peanut does just as well against donald trump as joe biden

I just want to say I am happy to that roxymuzak came back to ILX and I am sorry you are not enjoying being back. I hope that changes and you decide to stay. Quality ILX poster of yore.

i think the pollsters would be astonished that mr peanut does just as well against donald trump as joe biden

― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone)

for about five seconds, then they will devote all of their time devoting their energies to finding out what makes the elusive Trump-Peanut voter tick

The painful reminder throughout this for me is how entrenched in rape culture we are. Got a long way to go.

Lechera otm too

There’s a lot of conflating going on that’s stupid. I personally don’t need to defend Biden the man to excuse my vote for Biden the alternative to Trump, because my vote for “not Trump” doesn’t need to be defended.

Biden is still a weird asshole and I’m still really disappointed he’s the most likely nominee barring something truly exceptional happening. I live in an unimportant district where my vote means next to nothing but I’ll mail it in anyway because Trump is a walking disaster for liberal democratic institutions on multiple continents.

I’m never voting third party again, I got took in 2000 and I’m out. That bullshit is a sucker’s game, I feel for anybody who put their own money into it.

Don Lemon had Stacey Abrams on tonight. As the interview went along, I thought he was going to duck bringing up Tara Reade, but he didn't.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/28/stacey_abrams_on_tara_reade_biden_telling_the_truth_and_this_did_not_happen.html

What a mess.

Mr Peanut once ran for mayor of Vancouver

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/former-vancouver-mayoral-candidate-mr-peanut-dead-at-104/

https://belkin.ubc.ca/exhibitions/mr-peanut-campaign-for-mayor-1974/

I personally don’t need to defend Biden the man to excuse my vote for Biden the alternative to Trump, because my vote for “not Trump” doesn’t need to be defended.

― El Tomboto

it's been a long day and i can't sleep so i'm going to push this a little. so first i'm just gonna rewrite that statement in the active voice: "i don't need to defend my vote for Joe Biden (to you)".

fair enough. i mean, here's my take: increasingly it feels like the choice biden voters have is to question the credibility of tara reade or to say that you hate donald trump so much you will vote for a rapist to get him out of office. i have a real, real hard time with both of those alternatives, and if you intend on voicing either one of these beliefs you don't need to defend on a regular basis between here and november, well, i honestly don't know how goddamn much of that i can take.

I don’t know if Biden is a rapist. I don’t know if Trump is a rapist. We have an admittedly fucked up justice system that we use to help determine beyond a reasonable doubt whether people are rapists. It has not served us well in this regard.

Trump is a danger to the world. He wants to use American hegemony to enrich himself, and where he can’t do that, he seeks to destroy everything in his way. He hates NATO. He hates anything green. He is allegedly a rapist.

Biden is a schmuck. He will not spend his entire time in office enriching himself and his immediate family at the cost of multilateral arrangements that have taken decades to establish. He will appoint reasonably competent people to his cabinet. His goal is not to drive the executive branch into a 400’ deep sinkhole. He is allegedly a rapist.

I’ll take the schmuck.

the Democrats should just go full Optimus Prime here and drop out of the 2020 race. Megatron wins by not having any principles in the first place.

Accelerationism!!!

He will not spend his entire time in office enriching himself and his immediate family

Shhh no one tell Tombot about Hunter Biden