Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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sex pest sounds a little too John Leguizamo. "Rapist-American", please.

Chris Dodd on the VP committee. Biden coming straight with a fuck youuuuuuu

At this rate he's just gonna go ahead and pick fucking Ivanka as veep just to make sure he really rubs it in.

5-D chess! The lefty insurrectionists of the Democratic Party leadership have been softening up the people for Bernie all along, by a carefully-planned programme of gradually emphasising what a horrible piece of shit Joe Biden is, while there's still time to dump him.

Everyone who even vaguely floated the idea of 'pushing Biden to the left' should have to put in a shift in a carnival dunk tank.

At this rate he's just gonna go ahead and pick fucking Ivanka as veep

not wrong, ugh

I still think there's an outside shot of Mitt Romney

"I know I know I know Jack that I said I'd choose a woman but my old pal Mitt here represents the best of Ameri, represents a chance at uni... we're coming together Jack"

The first attempt failed, now it's up to the denizens of this thread to save America.

An Illinois woman inspired by pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theory videos traveled to New York City on Wednesday with more than a dozen illegal knives and threatened to kill former Vice President Joe Biden, according to police and her own social media posts.

New York police officers arrested dancer Jessica Prim, 37, on Wednesday after she began to act strangely on a city pier. In a live video Prim posted on Facebook of her arrest. She ranted about saving children and claimed she had come to New York because of an internet conspiracy theory video about a “cabal” of pedophile Democrats.

“Have you guys heard about the kids?” a tearful Prim said as she was arrested. “OK, I’m not lying.”

Shortly before her arrest, Prim posted on Facebook that Hillary Clinton and Biden “need to be taken out.”

“Hillary Clinton and her assistant, Joe Biden and Tony Podesta need to be taken out in the name of Babylon!” Prim wrote. “I can’t be set free without them gone. Wake me up!!!!!”

At another point during her arrest, Prim said she believed Donald Trump was talking to her directly during his coronavirus press conferences. Prim is facing more than a dozen counts of criminal possession of a weapon over the knives, as well as a marijuana possession charge, according to the New York Daily News.

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Prim appears to have gone to the pier because she was convinced it was near the U.S. Navy Hospital Ship Comfort, the hospital ship that was sent to New York City to help with the coronavirus pandemic. A faction of QAnon believers have become obsessed with the Comfort, convinced that it’s being used to rescue “mole children” abused by the “cabal.”

“I’m at the Comfort,” Prim said in the video.

In fact, Prim had mistaken the Comfort for the U.S.S. Intrepid, a former aircraft carrier that now serves as a museum.

In the name of Babylon?

shit like this...i mean clearly this woman is on shaky psychiatric ground and all this rubbish is just providing fodder for delusions, no?

Prim said she believed Donald Trump was talking to her directly during his coronavirus press conferences.

Very Helter Skelterish.

Biden getting whacked by a Q nutter would probably be a boon for the Democrats chances in November.

so I clicked on the #FireChrisHayes hashtag and like the first 12 results were people saying the hashtag was insane

good microcosm of how lefty twitter works really

That's not lefty twitter, that's how twitter works - every cancel hashtag, after a few hours, the top results are people saying it's dumb

i just realized Twitter is probably the closest thing to a "national conversation" that we'll ever get

Supposedly addressing this tomorrow morning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8275593/Joe-Biden-break-silence-staffers-sexual-assault-claims.html

Not a show I want to watch but I will.

I would expect a denial. He'll say the allegation is 100% false, while not directly calling Reade a liar. For trimmings, he'll cite how well he gets along with women colleagues, and how much he respects women, and how wonderful the MeToo movement is, with a nod to how women are our mothers, sisters and wives. iow, almost certainly nothing to see here.

Anything resembling an admission, confession, or apology, would genuinely shock me and I'm getting too old to be shocked by much. But I do think that it is the only tiny escape hatch he has, because it would get in front of the story and move the conversation away from suspicions, investigations, denunciations, and such, to the possibility of healing, forgiveness and reconciliation. Or else give us a new nominee.

Another rock-solid take from Jacobin:

In 2016, Republicans scrambled to force Donald Trump out of the race over his sexual assault allegations. Today, the Democratic establishment is united in dismissing the same allegations against Joe Biden. It says a lot about the party of "believe women." https://t.co/dmJ2A32RIG

— Jacobin (@jacobinmag) April 30, 2020

honestly, fuck the democrats

if this is the route they're taking, fuck em

Jacobin otm!

Jacobin otm!

On which planet did the Republicans "scrambled to force Donald Trump out of the race over his sexual assault allegations"? Because I can tell you that here on Earth, it didn't go down like that.

They did. The head of the rnc, reince preibus, got on the acela so the story goes and ran to trump tower to beg him to drop out. And Trump told him to fuck off.

who gives a shit? we're not republicans

xp

Granted, this is via woodward, so grain of salt. I think this essentially was the reality though. In autumn 2016 it did not look like the Trump show would be a winning strategy for the GOP and they were bracing themselves for a post-Trump future.

And that man who molested over a dozen women and bragged about it... became the President of the United States of America. And that's the rest of the story!

But yeah Brad otm. It’s just the inconsistency in how the Democrats ate treating this is dizzying.

Nothing to do with Biden.

My memory of what happened after the Access Hollywood tape is a little cloudy in terms of Republican reaction. I remember Jason Chaffetz bailing, and how he decided later everything was okay. Anyway, here's a roundup.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/headline-republicans-react-trump-comments-objectifying-women

Republicans obviously weren't worried about sexual assault out of personal objection but because they feared it would damage his chances in the election - they stopped caring the minute that there was no fallout from the public.

Democrats are hoping the same holds true here because a significant portion also don't think that sexual assault by their colleague/friend/etc. is disqualifying in and of itself, but they're once again betting on rules and standards being applied equally - which they never are. A credible sexual assault allegation hurts Biden far worse than an outright conviction would hurt Trump.

I just skimmed but "an alarmed Republican establishment scrambled to force Donald Trump out of the race" seems more or less accurate, and then the majority of them managed to unscramble themselves by the time of the election.

At that time they thought he had single digit odds of winning. They wanted to cut their losses. It wasn’t principled at all—I don’t think the social media intern at Jacobin was implying it was.

A little magician named Comey also swung decideds decidedly in Trump's direction too.

Ok whoa. Hold it.

Comey isn’t little. He is like 6’8”.

I apologize.

2'4" of that is a forehead cyst

Biden to donors on a virtual fundraiser yesterday: he'd consider picking a Republican to serve in his cabinet "if they're the best-qualified person" & might announce cabinet picks when he reveals his VP pick later this summer.

Biden on a virtual fundraiser co-hosted by Buttigieg tonight:
“I view myself as a transition candidate… My job is… to bring the Mayor Petes of the world into this administration."

the difference that gets smaller every year

He'll be on Morning Joe at 7:30 to answer questions specifically about the allegations.

https://medium.com/@JoeBiden/statement-by-vice-president-joe-biden-7a9593bd3012

live now

a) why the hell is this on Medium

b) I, me, me, I, I, I, me, I, I, me, I, me, me, I, me, we should listen to women.

Headed back to bed...Personally, I didn't find Biden that convincing this morning. A lot of "to the best of my knowledge"-type phrasing. He also had this habit of stopping on a dime after a few words and waiting for the questioner to come back. That may be a discipline thing because of his habit of rambling, but it could also be a desire to address it in as few words as possible and move on to something else. I always think in these situations--and this goes way way back to the early '90s, when there were a couple of years of constant scandals involving high-profile people--that the most obvious reaction if someone blindsides you with a false accusation is visible anger. This may be completely unfair, and I know it's all speculation, but I didn't see any anger this morning.

He repeated "It never happened. Period" like a mantra. He's really fucked if there are more, ah, developments.

He also had this habit of stopping on a dime after a few words and waiting for the questioner to come back. That may be a discipline thing because of his habit of rambling, but it could also be a desire to address it in as few words as possible and move on to something else.

It could also be an attempt to keep his stuttering under control. Stress and tension exacerbate speech impediments.

In the primary debates, too, he often stopped himself short and said "My time is up."