If anyone needs a detailed/well-referenced guide to just how much this administration fucked up the response to the pandemic, this is a good guide:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-timeline/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 30 April 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
I don't think I will want to know about that for 30 years or so, give me time to get over it.
― silby, Thursday, 30 April 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link
there's another one of these articles every day now, does this one have any revelations?
― akm, Friday, 1 May 2020 00:55 (four years ago) link
more than 30,000 new cases today in the US, with again more than 2,000 deaths, now almost 1,000,000 active cases
― Dan S, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2020/04/29/trump-order-reopen-meat-packing-plants-create-anxiety-waterloo-farmers-who-face-destroying-pigs/3047760001/
i know this is kind of an obvious point, but people who eat meat should consider eating less meat right now
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link
if you're eating meat, on top of all the other stuff i'm biting my tongue on, you're asking people to risk their lives to perform an "essential service" that is not at at all essential
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 06:31 (four years ago) link
I have been thinking that.
― silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
idk how easy it will be for low income folk to drastically change their diet on a whim
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
(but I don't want the plants to re-open)
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link
the people who usually pitch a fit about not being able to eat meat every meal are not usually the people who are most vulnerable.
― Yerac, Friday, 1 May 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
yeah, i know everyone has their own situation and that it's more realistic for some than others, but i just mean maybe the 7-days-a-week meat eaters could consider cutting a few of those days out
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
yeah, i actually have very strong opinions about people who feel a psychological need to eat meat every meal, every day.
― Yerac, Friday, 1 May 2020 15:04 (four years ago) link
as long as the peanut butter plants stay open
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 May 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article7871269.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/JS47563228.jpg vs. https://thecounter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/chicken_processing_speeds-e1505425687673.jpg
That locally crafted faux blue cheese I once bought was probably more labor intensive than meat products, but I can't think of any vegan food whose market economics demand hundreds in one room at close proximity...
― speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
it's definitely more prevalent in meat-packing plants, but it's also becoming a problem at other food processing plants.
https://thefern.org/2020/04/mapping-covid-19-in-meat-and-food-processing-plants/
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
the only motherfucking peanut butter I can find right now is motherfucking Skippy, that shitass american import. normally we get peanut butter that's intended for Africans and is waaaaaay better because waaaaay less sugar. think it comes from the netherlands, but we can't get it right now. sucks.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link
peanut butter is one of the things we always bring back from the US because of that sugar problem everywhere else.
― Yerac, Friday, 1 May 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link
Skippy peanut butter is bad-bad not-good.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
you know peanut butter is ridiculously easy to make? bag of salted or unsalted peanuts, blender, turn on, wait.
― StanM, Friday, 1 May 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
i thought you just sat on the peanuts real fast
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
American Airlines notified me that they will be requiring passengers to wear masks, which just further cements my lack of interest in getting on a plane any year soon.
― silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
we usually bring back the trader joes peanut butter.
― Yerac, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
a peanut sat on a railroad trackhis heart was all a-fluttera long came a choo-choo trainCHOO-CHOOOO CHOO-CHOOpeaaaanut butter
― forensic plumber (harbl), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
https://moniquevandervloed.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/IMG_0487-1200x800.jpg
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
I'm supposed to not eat sugar (sucrose) but I have peanut butter everyday via a smoothie. Never had a problem finding sugarless version. Well that's not true: once I couldn't find it at local stores so ordered some online of a brand I'd never seen before (Teddy). Generally tho stores have either this Smucker's "all natural" or Adam's "100% Natural".
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
xpost Yay, five jars of anaphylaxis. I'll stick with meat, thanks.
― doug watson, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
Story about peanut butter in James and Kay Salter's Life is Meals:
At a lunch in France one day, we remarked that it was hard to find certain things in the local grocery store."What can you not find?" asked the hostess."Well, baking soda, for one thing. Peanut butter.""I het it," she said simply.
"What can you not find?" asked the hostess.
"Well, baking soda, for one thing. Peanut butter."
"I het it," she said simply.
Once Again is my brand.
― o. nate, Friday, 1 May 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
Baking soda is easy to find here! Maybe that story is old?Peanut butter is really only sold widely in immigrant neighborhoods: people from from subsaharienne Africa and East Asia cook with it. But it’s the sugarless kind. Yeah, I could grind my own, since peanuts have been relatively steadily in stock. Normally I shop at African and East Asian supermarkets, but the closest ones have been closed during the lockdown and we’re not supposed to go too far to shop.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
Followup on Daniel Uhlfelder above:
holy shit pic.twitter.com/rVw24plXTp— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) May 1, 2020
― speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
Hey hip-hop nerds. What kind-of hip-hop is this?
― fatuous salad (symsymsym), Friday, 1 May 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
Top 10 Coronavirus clusters in the US? Prisons, meat packing plants, a Navy battleship. Next 10? Prisons, meat packing plants, nursing homes. Next 10? And the 10 after that? Prisons, meat packing plants and nursing homes.... https://t.co/vdXEqlVymY— Gina Neff (@ginasue) April 30, 2020
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link
^that's a good (and depressing) thread
here's another good and depressing thread:
NEW INITIATIVELocal action & ownership is the frontline of pandemic response. But there is little guidance out there designed for local leaders.Over the past 2 weeks, a group of us have been working to start filling that gap: https://t.co/hKVb2d3Arg— Jeremy TEST/TRACE/ISOLATE Konyndyk (@JeremyKonyndyk) March 23, 2020
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
oops! i meant this one:
Welcome to May. As I feared, the federal government wasted April much as it wasted February. That is a harsh assessment given how much the country has been suffering. But without competent federal leadership, the best we are managing is to tread water. Some stats:— Jeremy TEST/TRACE/ISOLATE Konyndyk (@JeremyKonyndyk) May 1, 2020
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
for those that don't like to read threads on twitter but like to read threads on ilx,
the gist of it is that the US isn't on the "decline" side of the curve, nationally. we're on a plateau, and what's more, there aren't any indications that it's going to go down any time soon. the existing lockdowns and policies have succeeded in halting the growth of daily cases/deaths, but they aren't enough to get rates down low enough to actually decline. to do that, we need substantial gains in testing and tracing, and there's no indication that the federal government is making progress on that.
it's an ugly situation. in order to get on the other side of the curve, we need to step UP the shelter in place policies, just as so many people are talking about how soon we'll be able to "open up" the economy. it's a shit show.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link
I'm in NY and there are people upstate who are clamoring to open. Despite hundreds of people still dying every day down here in our own backyard. People are idiots; if even people in my own state can't be convinced...
― Nhex, Friday, 1 May 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
The people dead set on opening back up asap are just blinding themselves to how infectious this virus is and ignoring the degree to which it isn't spreading like a windblown wildfire is due to society being widely shut down. It's the old saw that 'there is none so blind as him who will not see.'
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
As sung by Ray Stevens, who is no doubt in favor of the re-opening.
― Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link
don't look Ethelllll
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
lol
― Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
xxp - when is Branson reopening?
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
In WA, Inslee announced an extension of the stay-at-home order through the end of May and gave the outlines of what future phases of relaxed restrictions will look like
https://coronavirus.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-05/PhasedReopeningChart.pdf
― silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link
I look forward to hang out with up to 5 friends per week. (5 is like…half of my friends though.)
― silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
this sounds really good. but i wonder about the logistics. rolled out by the military in 2 weeks - but a sophisticated program of prioritisation, tracking, tracing will be needed. who’s going to coordinate that? the military too?https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/us-germ-warfare-lab-creates-test-for-pre-infectious-covid-19-carriers
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 May 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
presumably state and local public health departments. WA plans to employ 750 national guard as case and contact investigators starting next week
― silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
I have to admit I am mildly irritated by not eating red meat once or twice a week
i'll live though (for a bit)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 May 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
any rationalizing of "opening up" NOW is homicidal Trump-enabling
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 May 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
re not eating meat, I made The NY Times spring tofu soup recipe today, it was good
― Dan S, Friday, 1 May 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
also really love Meera Sodha’s chilli tofu recipe in The Guardian
― Dan S, Friday, 1 May 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
this was my bible for many years
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/142850.Madhur_Jaffrey_s_World_of_the_East_Vegetarian_Cooking
then I married a carnivore, I do my best
― epicenter of the fieri universe (sleeve), Friday, 1 May 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
Non-outbreak aside: Soon as you get tofu home, stick it in the freezer at least overnight. Defrost, press out the water between plates in the sink, and the ice crystal growth leaves it with a meatier somewhat fibrous texture. Tofu's just a blank canvas, you have to marinate the hell out of it and use high heat cooking (saute/broil/deep fry) before its comparable in interest with less labor intensive meat. I'm keen on TJ's "high-protein" tofu (like extra-extra-firm) and jerk seasoning.
― speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Friday, 1 May 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link