Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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He ‘could’ take Bernie’s platform wholesale and it not matter because he’s a cardboard cutout that allows a lot of people to not think about politics for four years.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

it would matter if he aggressively pushed for single payer and free college while in office

treeship., Monday, 4 May 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

xp - word I specifically highlighted*

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link

He ‘could’ take Bernie’s platform wholesale

see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

If he took Sanders' platform (hooray!), then who cares if he's a cutout? And he wouldn't be -- he'd suddenly be a liberal. I'm not following you. You give politicians too much credit for integrity.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

If he took Sanders' platform (hooray!), then who cares if he's a cutout? And he wouldn't be -- he'd suddenly be a liberal. I'm not following you. You give politicians too much credit for integrity.

He's not going to, that's the point. AOC never suggests he's going to - that's you people divining hope and comfort from her statement.

She brings up Sanders's platform to highlight that ideology has nothing to do with Biden 2020 - he could take the platform wholesale and it not matter because he's the comforting old white man who can make everything normal because remember Obama? Conversely, he could adopt Mitt Romney's entire 2012 platform and have the same impact - because 'normal and remember Obama?'

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

Y'all glommed onto the mention of a progressive platform rather than all the words that followed.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

I see we're all fans of English novels and their subtleties.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

I'm not following you.

Two words: Biden bad. It's a belief system, not subject to change.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

seems to contort all the information it receives until it resembles points he's already made 1000x on this thread

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

For the 1001st "we can make Joe Biden a progressive with the right pressure" jerk sesh, yep.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link

nobody here said that, or at least I didn't.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

I thought the words that followed were acknowledging that he could allow for a progressive platform as a centrist and that his followers, centrists and older people, wouldn’t blink, because people for the most part are practical, not idealists

Dan S, Monday, 4 May 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

joe biden sucks

k3vin k., Monday, 4 May 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link

the AOC quote reads to me a comment on the electorate and how biden's success reflects his branding/package/narrative and not a groundswell of support for whatever is listed as his platform. i don't see any predictions there as to any platform biden might go on to adopt or be pushed towards or whatever, or his susceptibility to such pushing.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link

joe biden: empty santa claus suit

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 May 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

"she's saying he has an ability to do this thing"
"you idiot, she's saying he COULD do this thing"

here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link

More marvels from the nimble digital team at malarkey.no


this is a real gif from the biden campaign design geniuses pic.twitter.com/l503tDQB18

— SLUG (@generalslug) May 4, 2020

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link

AOC quote is a clear-eyed, world-weary statement on white, male privilege. At best it is a neutral statement of an uncomfortable fact. It is in no way complimentary to Biden or his supporters/voters.

Pointing Johnny got into Princeton ONLY because he is white, male, and rich is not generally considered complimentary.

He Ain't Heavy D, He's My Brother (PBKR), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

out

He Ain't Heavy D, He's My Brother (PBKR), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:25 (four years ago) link

was not previously aware of this decades-long abusive slander by Joe Biden:

Biden lying about how his wife and daughter were killed is supremely, supremely fucked up beyond belief pic.twitter.com/HaL6A9kEBV

— Klaus Nomi Malone (@prokchorp) May 5, 2020

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

joe was just referring to people who drink smoothies in place of a proper lunch, he has been a leader on this issue for decades, lookit his record

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

oh yeah, i had forgotten about that

treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

really insane. the guy went to the grave still asking biden to clear this up.

treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

but joe refused to submit to the Naked Juice lobbyists

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

i mean, there is too much sugar in that punch, jack, come on.

treeship., Tuesday, 5 May 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

jamba juice known to draw many a dogfaced pony soldier though tbf

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

it's comical what we will "forget" about people when they occupy somewhat of a similar worldview

Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link

All of Trump’s supporters forgot he was a Clinton donor and a Democrat for his entire pre-Obama life

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

Or the Bloomberg supporters who I guess forgot that he spoke at the 2004 RNC. The list of turncoats is glorious.

Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

NEW: Progressive groups including @moveon, @pccc, @WorkingFamilies, @justicedems, @sunrisemvmt, @greenpeaceusa, @UltraViolet urge Biden to drop Larry Summers as an adviser, pointing to his record on economics, climate and gender issues. https://t.co/czhdZYvzTL

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) May 6, 2020

Lucy’s arms are gonna get tired yanking the football away.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

Biden came right out and said Ahmaud Arbery was murdered in cold blood, which I would not have expected him to do.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

To see "Summers" name above "Bloomberg" is cognitive dissonance.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

Biden's campaign organizers have a union contract - the first major party nominee's campaign to ever do such a thing.

Field organizers for Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign ratified a union contract that will give them a $15-an-hour minimum wage, overtime pay and a grievance process.

Biden’s campaign had previously recognized a union representing its organizers in Iowa, the first state to vote in the Democratic presidential primary.

The new agreement covers all of the campaign’s organizers throughout the country. The organizers will be members of the Cedar Rapids-based Teamsters Local 238.

“For the first time in history, the campaign staff for a presumptive nominee of a major political party will be covered under a union agreement,” said Jesse Case, the union’s secretary-treasurer. “We are pleased to announce that Biden for President field organizers, represented by Teamsters Local 238, have ratified a collective bargaining agreement effective May 1.”

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Can they go on strike til Joe drops out now

silby, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

Biden Leads Trump in First Poll to Address Sexual Assault Allegation

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s lead over President Trump is growing nationwide even though most voters are aware of a sexual assault allegation against him, according to a Monmouth University poll released Wednesday. It is the first major national survey to ask voters about the allegation by a former Senate aide against the former vice president.

All told, 50 percent of voters said they would vote for Mr. Biden in a head-to-head matchup, and 41 percent said they would vote for Mr. Trump. In an Monmouth poll in April, Mr. Biden led the president by just four percentage points; in March, he led by three. The margin of error in the new poll was plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.

A large majority of voters — 86 percent — were aware of the allegation that Mr. Biden sexually assaulted a Senate aide, Tara Reade, in 1993. Ms. Reade says he pinned her to a wall, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers.

After Mr. Biden publicly denied Ms. Reade’s accusation on Friday, Monmouth added a question to the poll already in progress, asking whether voters had heard about the allegation and whether they thought it was true.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 7 May 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

Joseph R. Biden Jr

They didn't use to say 'William Jefferson Clinton' in 1992, did they?

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 May 2020 09:16 (three years ago) link

Do you mean in general or the Times specifically? I think Clinton's full name was mentioned a lot back then.

clemenza, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

A better comp might be Carter and Ford who are also both Jrs

dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

Don't you cease to be a junior once senior dies? I know I stopped using mine once my dad kicked. There only being one of us left, after all...

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

It is customary to use "the younger" when there may be confusion. Cf. Pliny, Pitt, etc.

Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

what if joe biden is actually the hottest bad boy in the game?

Op-Ed: How Joe Biden Can Defeat Trump From His Basement

If Joe Biden plays his cards right, the death of the traditional presidential campaign will turn out to be a blessing in disguise. The 77-year-old Mr. Biden, whom the president derisively calls “Sleepy Joe,” can become the hottest bad boy and disrupter in the media game.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

I think Clinton's full name was mentioned a lot back then.

yeah that's the style in reporting on legal proceedings

j., Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

It is customary to use "the younger" when there may be confusion. Cf. Pliny, Pitt, etc.

Sometimes, especially towards the end of his career, I'd sometimes see the Jr. dropped from Ken Griffey--he was Ken Griffey, period, his father was Sr. If the son eclipses the father's fame significantly, and is the only one anybody ever talks about, the Jr. seems redundant. (Having said that, because I grew up a Reds fan in the '70s, I still said Ken Griffey, Jr. But to a kid who only knew the younger, I'm sure that felt weird.)

clemenza, Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

weird for the nytimes to call him joseph r. biden, jr. should stick with "sleepy joe."

treeship., Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

You can't post a link without the funniest line

By Lis Smith
Ms. Smith advised campaigns by Pete Buttigieg, Andrew Cuomo and Barack Obama.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

They didn't use to say 'William Jefferson Clinton' in 1992, did they?

They did indeed, usually when they were explaining how he brutally murdered Vince Foster

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Plus there was that great single R.E.M. put out during the Lewinsky scandal, "William Jefferson Clinton (I Think We're Lost)."

clemenza, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

If the son eclipses the father's fame significantly, and is the only one anybody ever talks about, the Jr. seems redundant.

Robert Downey Jr still keeping the flame

Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

larry mullen jr

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link


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