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There’s was an idiot parade in melbourne this weekend and depressingly, but expectedly, the plod didn’t arrest and fine as many people for breaching social distancing as they did at the asylum seekers rights protest a few weeks back (where isolation was maintained by doing it in cars)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

Took a trip to the burbs to buy and deliver groceries to the gf's parents this morning and there was an old white guy in the parking lot protesting the SIP and yelling right wing talking points. I yelled at him to stop being such a selfish baby and shut the fuck up and go home. A few other people in the parking lot applauded but it didn't seem to phase him. hopefully if enough people react the same way he can be shamed into confining his bullshit to social media.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 10 May 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

only 750 new deaths reported in the US, the lowest single day total since late March. 20,000 new cases also the lowest new case total since around the same time period.

I know 3-day averages more indicative than 1-day, but this is a significant reduction. I don't have a lot of faith that this will continue cos of states like Georgia, but I hope I'm wrong.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link

xpost even if it didn't phase him, good on you for doing that. and nice to see other people applauded rather than booing you, which indicates not everybody is a complete moron.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

Canada's daily cases have really stabilized too and are starting to move down.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/

Half of that anomalous spike on May 3 had to do with some delayed reporting. This is the week where there's a lot of gradual reopening, though, so fingers crossed.

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link

this Plandemic/Mikovits shit is the most successful disinfo/propaganda campaign I've ever seen.

Massively signal-boosted into old-person Facebook by QAnon groups per some disinfo person on Twitter

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 11 May 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

I really love how the selling point is "it got banned from YouTube 5 times!! Come find out what **they** don't want you to know!!" as if the entire fuckin YouTube corporation is in on it

frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link

i've somehow avoided seeing anyone share it

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Monday, 11 May 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

me neither, though I've seen tons of people reference the thing

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

I know 3-day averages more indicative than 1-day, but this is a significant reduction.

The 7-day average (which better solves the weekend/weekday reporting lags) currently showing -7.55% downtrend... which is good, but nowhere near great. Tuesday will show a much clearer indication of what happened Fri-Mon.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 11 May 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link

this is an interesting page for looking at international comparisons over time -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 07:40 (three years ago) link

in singapore they have robot dogs who will find you if you're not standing 2 metres apart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viuR7N6E2LA

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

Death rate per 100,000 people in the UK is 47. In my area it's 120.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 11 May 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

A few news stories of note:

https://www.cjr.org/the_profile/natasha-daly-national-geographic.php

Daly has debunked claims about a new and glorious presence of ducks in the fountains in Rome (they are there, but they always were), peacocks in India (again, they live there), dolphins swimming through Venice (the photos in question were actually taken in Sardinia), deer on an Indian highway (it’s Japan, and the photo is years old).

“Conservationists say that, actually, we’ve changed ecosystems on earth to the point where they can’t recover without our assistance and help,” she said. “So to have that sort of mindset that we just need to do nothing, it almost undermines the really real and important work that conservationists do.”

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfw1r9xyXVA9CjeMP2V8xr1ZszLr4ZgCOtHB7kLTzPaGrXd9A/viewform?mc_cid=611c522843

Have you lost someone to coronavirus or do you work with victims' families? Help us remember New Yorkers felled by COVID-19. Share their story with THE CITY.

Violence in Germany by anti-quarantine protestors against the media
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-anger-foments-violence-against-journalists/a-53383927

A crew from the TV broadcaster ZDF had finished filming a so-called Hygiene Demonstration on May 1 for the satirical "Heute Show" ("Today Show") when it was set upon by some 15 hooded people, possibly with malice aforethought. Several members of the crew were injured, some severely. According to media reports, the attackers used metal bars and cudgels.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/health/coronavirus-plague-pandemic-history.html

In Florence, wrote Giovanni Boccaccio, “No more respect was accorded to dead people than would nowadays be accorded to dead goats.” Some hid in their homes. Others refused to accept the threat. Their way of coping, Boccaccio wrote, was to “drink heavily, enjoy life to the full, go round singing and merrymaking, and gratify all of one’s cravings when the opportunity emerged, and shrug the whole thing off as one enormous joke.”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 May 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

speaking of plagues in italy, anyone who hasn't read the LRB article about 1629 in florence really should:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/podcasts-and-videos/podcasts/lrb-conversations/four-hundred-years-of-quarantine

there is a podcast episode with the author here: https://www.lrb.co.uk/podcasts-and-videos/podcasts/lrb-conversations/four-hundred-years-of-quarantine

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link

How would I explain to the robot dog that I'm standing close to my wife, with whom I also sleep?

Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

very respectfully

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

oh cool, Black Mirror episode is here

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

also ED 209 will be patrolling the streets

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

very good, short article on how this could play out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/health/coronavirus-pandemic-curve-scenarios.html

lmao @ the idea that “herd immunity” could have ever been mentioned as a strategy. look at the graph. it will take years and years to even get to 55%.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

WATCH: Protesters calling for gyms to reopen in Florida are doing squats and push-ups outside the Clearwater courthouse https://t.co/3BVzxHQPEJ #Florida #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/3cjgQ6kaM8

— WFLA NEWS (@WFLA) May 11, 2020

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Clearwater, home of the sea org

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

imagine having a customer base that is so dedicated that they gather together in dangerous conditions outside of your place of business to do the thing that they want to pay you to do inside of your building, if it only it were less dangerous

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

it's like standing outside of a Cold Stone eating homemade ice cream and demanding to be let inside so you can pay them for ice cream

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

Are these folks dupes or trolls?

DJI, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

Or a smooth combination of both?

DJI, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

They are not incredibly bright

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

I hadn't missed hardly a day at the gym for three months when this came along, but if it reopens, that's extremely low on my priority list. Twice-a-day walks are filling the void just fine in keeping off the weight I'd lost.

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Walk plus ring fit plus no restaurants means somehow I'm not fatter than before,

DJI, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

you should protest in front of nintendo headquarters! end social distancing so you can play ring fit!!

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

They aren’t there, they’re working from home.

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

that didn't stop the brave clearwater gym protesters

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

I thought this was a good overview of what we currently know about where risks of transmission are highest:

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

TLDR: Transmission through the air in an enclosed space is a high risk. Just breathing the same air can do it if you spend enough time there. Sneezing or coughing increases the risk significantly.

o. nate, Monday, 11 May 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

it seems good and people i trust are sharing it but the quillette acknowledgement at the end makes me suspicious

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 11 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

lol

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

You could skip the article and just read the studies he cites (ie follow the links).

For example, the Korean workplace study:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/8/20-1274_article

o. nate, Monday, 11 May 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

https://www.9news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cafe-in-castle-rock-endangering-the-lives-of-community-for-reopening-despite-public-health-order-polis-office-says/73-8a77b8f4-6b5b-48cd-809b-1f86f36a4dc0

On Sunday, one of the restaurant's customers said she and her family waited three hours to get their meals.
"I’m here to support this because I love the fact that we all have choices," Holly Burrell said. "That’s what being an American is about."

idiotic individualism>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rugged individualism

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 11 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

if only it were only the people being self-aggrandizing idiots that would get sick

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

maybe we can tell them they can camp in these sealed bubbles to protest for a month and just infect them every day

genital giant (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 May 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Fauci's ready to remove his muzzle if necessary:

BREAKING: Dr. Anthony Fauci tells me he will warn the Senate on Tuesday that Americans will face "needless suffering and death" if the country opens up prematurely. https://t.co/3d2D0lu6c2

— Sheryl Gay Stolberg (@SherylNYT) May 12, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

I thought this was probably going to happen anyway in the Senate? Main reason it didn't happen in the House was probably taking away more Dem opportunities to talk shit, rightfully

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link

navajos being hit especially hard

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/coronavirus-in-navajo

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/12/nation/heres-what-fauci-said-about-college-students-returning-campus-fall/

Fauci continued: “If this were a situation where you had a vaccine, that would really be the end of issue in positive way. But as I mentioned in my opening remarks, even at the top speed we’re going, we don’t see a vaccine playing in the ability of individuals to get back to school this term.”

It blows me away that people are being "asked" to go back to work now, but college students & faculty are not even going to go back in the fall. I mean, I agree with the latter! But it's criminal that we're applying one standard to universities and another to, well, everything else.

Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

but Euler, the children are our future

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

arrrrgh

Joey Corona (Euler), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

Interesting metric - and note the actual numbers because the logarithmic scale is misleading

Fascinating discussion on Greek #COVID19 briefing about testing. Apparently, one of the more useful measures is not "tests per million", but "tests per case" - it is a measure that reveals the true aggressiveness of testing. Never mentioned in the UK. I wonder why. Oh. pic.twitter.com/5h40NrASNW

— Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex) May 12, 2020

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

that's a good point!

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

my state is at almost exactly 6 tests per case. hooray!

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

and also a breakdown of the symptomatic vs asymptomatic test positives.

Yerac, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

the children are our future

So, children harbor (and presumably transmit) virus at the same levels as older persons. They just only rarely (< 0.1%) go into full ARDS or heart attack/stroke. And much of the adult workforce can't return if there's no school or daycare.

One solution could be month long summer camps, in which all children are expected to be exposed, but they can't return with the virus to their homes or more vulnerable populations before their disease resolves. Like chickenpox parties, but without the adult immunity. But the sales pitch is beyond me. "Yes, ma'am, we expect the risk of your child dying is under 1 in 1000, and for younger camp staff its less than 1 in 500, but they'd face the same risk or worse if this happens in your communities." I can't make that sound like a noble sacrifice...

Or maybe we should just open unsanitized ball pits but only for families willing to sequester (and face the much higher risk for parents) for 2+ weeks.

Colleges, with tight living spaces in dormitories, petri-dish lecture halls, etc are an easier sell, because at least everyone there is (presumably) a consenting adult...

speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link


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