Elon Musk

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Here’s an email Musk sent to Tesla factory workers at 12:55 AM highlighting the “extremely honorable” task of making electric cars during the county’s shelter in place order. Email has been confirmed by two sources. pic.twitter.com/K1MmUmim6g

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) May 12, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

i found that looking at his wiki trying to figure out if he can engineer, he studied business and physics at penn then started an internet company, if i had to guess hes a business guy who has a technical style brain and a science education, which would mean hes prob able to understand the technical side of the business conceptually but couldnt really do the actual specialized work of calculating how a car crumples and so forth, thats my guess, welcome to my guess

Based on current trends, probably close to zero new cases in US too by end of April

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 19, 2020

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

lmaooo at the last sentence of that email

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

i'm on record in this thread, i think, saying that i think elon musk is a smart man. just want to say that in the spirit of honest re-evaluation

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link

California should let Tesla & @elonmusk open the plant, NOW. It can be done Fast & Safely!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 12, 2020

lmaooo

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

and as for his reputation as a maverick libertarian his entire business is built on government subsidies

But don't let Musk's annoying persona make you forget those subsidies were good and should be continued and if anything enlarged!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

i mean theyre good but its still cars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

says the low-key car guy

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

i like cars but recognize that they are bad policy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

What car u got lagoon?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

i dont even have any car rn

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

i want an audi s3 thoooooooo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

lagoon are you gonna miss camp this summer? ;_;

silby, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Elon dropping out of a Stanford PhD program after 2 days doesn't really indicate anything.

― Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:48 AM (one hour ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it indicate he lacks the professional certification of being an engineer? e.g., his membership in IEEE is honorary

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

prob gonna miss everything this summer world done closed

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

We have a lease that ends in about 18 months lb got the lease (rather than owning) in the hope mainstream EVs would be ready around then. You couldn’t pay me to drive a Tesla. Looking at the Kia Niro and soul tbh https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26144426/2019-kia-niro-ev-driven/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/05/another-competent-korean-car-the-kia-niro-ev-reviewed/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

Wait what are you leasing caek? My teenager desperately wants us to get a Tesla and I am keen on an EV but don't know the landscape.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

I'll admit that you had to have some follow-through and good business skills to get the clients going, but his first venture was pretty low-hanging fruit as far as early web companies go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip2
he probably hustled his ass off! then his second venture in payments was a more complicated thing as far as liability and infrastructure goes, but before they go too big the payments company merged with paypal

I sometimes shake my head and wonder why I didn't jump into that type of thing at the time, but the answer is pretty much that I was in my late teens and incredibly risk-adverse and anxious. so pretty much like the 3/4ths of my peers that were really internet-savvy but not doing this stuff

fwiw I am completely unqualified to run Tesla having run no businesses, but just as qualified as Elon when it comes to weighing in on a number of things

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

I rented a Kia Soul once and it was a completely acceptable car, not overdesigned and just did what cars should. It was the base model and had surprisingly bad fuel mileage and was kind of noisy, though

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

Elon dropping out of a Stanford PhD program after 2 days doesn't really indicate anything.

― Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:48 AM (one hour ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it indicate he lacks the professional certification of being an engineer? e.g., his membership in IEEE is honorary

― dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:29 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink


not many engineers get a certification such as a PE, unless they are going to work on civil projects. he certainly could have been hired as an engineer with his BS in physics. I like the IEEE but wouldn't put much stock in someone's membership, i.e. from their website:

Professional membership is open to individuals who by experience give evidence of competence in an IEEE designated field. The designated fields are: Engineering, Computer Sciences and Information Technology, Physical Sciences, Biological and Medical Sciences, Mathematics, Technical Communications, Education, Management, and Law and Policy.

so I think he qualifies. IEEE membership is a bit like a museum membership. It generally just gives you access to some resources for learning or networking within the field.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

they also relentlessly mail shit to you, physically and electronically, until you die and probably after you die as well

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

can any engineers of ilx speak to his engineering chops? is he just a business guy cosplaying as a science guy?

“I’m naturally good at engineering that’s because I inherited it from my father,” Musk says. “What’s very difficult for others is easy for me. For a while, I thought things were so obvious that everyone must know this.”

Like what kinds of things?

“Well, like how the wiring in a house works. And a circuit breaker, and alternating current and direct current, what amps and volts were, how to mix a fuel and oxidizers to create an explosive. I thought everyone knew this.”

(Rolling Stone)

pplains, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

thanks, Sufjan, I was probably overly influenced by my father-in-law being a civil engineer and assumed other fields were similarly strict

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

Musk will likely be remembered as one of the most seminal figures of this millennium

it's true, he does have 7 kids

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I assume this RS profile is discussed upthread because it is hilariously overwrought

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

the "inherited" bit is dumb, but there was a group of kids in engineering/physics undergrad with "did projects with a technically skilled parent" chops. they generally did very well in school. comfort and familiarity with ideas and concepts is a huge boost to understanding, as is the confidence that comes along with that head start. it usually came with a privileged background. Elon likely doing some myth building in that quote. anyway, nobody can be so broadly qualified to justify his tony stark routine. I'm sure his chops won't live up to the myth he sells to the public and investors.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

sticking with the PhD probably would have humbled him!

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

the content machine needs ppl like musk and steve job then people read the content and buy the stock

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

it also helps with recruiting. people think working for elon musk means something because they know of his asshole antics.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

I wonder if Elon Musk knows how a toilet works.

pplains, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

I can answer that for you: it comes very easy to him. he inherited knowledge of the toilet from his dad. valves. seal rings. floats. he thought other people knew this stuff? now will you please write the 60 million dollar check for his brain cable company?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

He engineered an alternative way to remove waste from his body

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

he founded twitter?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

courted grimes?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

which punchline are we searching for here?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

He's starting a Mars COLONy

dip to dup (rob), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

The punchline is the queue of Americans waiting to bank the motherfucker in the jaw

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Wait what are you leasing caek? My teenager desperately wants us to get a Tesla and I am keen on an EV but don't know the landscape.


We’re leasing a forester. Car seats were destroying my lower back so I wanted an suv, and they weren’t any electric ones when we were on the market, so I figured renting a car for three years wasn’t crazy in that situation.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

it also helps with recruiting. people think working for elon musk means something because they know of his asshole antics.


I’ve been approached by spacex recruiters. Working for his companies is notoriously one of the worst jobs in tech. Terrible work/life, not great pay, abusive management, etc. It’s like working for amazon as an engineer but the pay is worse.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

yes, I don't see many engineers with previous work experience falling for it. But I imagine it's big for the poor lads that do work there.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

I think my friend is still in software development at one of these places and should check in

I think he was doing some internal apps last I checked and nothing production specific so it was less drama overall

mh, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

hey caek: we got a Kia Soul last fall (they had just started rolling out the 2020s), base model, and love it. Part of it might be that it’s our first new car, but really it’s a charming and useful machine in many ways.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

why don’t you drive an EV?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

drama in the musksphere today

I wrote something on @ElectrekCo that is sure to be controversial but that's not the goal. I truly think that @elonmusk's feedback loop has been corrupted - resulting in some questionable actions. You can disagree but my criticism comes from place of love https://t.co/H8pOXsZzZ1

— Fred Lambert (@FredericLambert) May 12, 2020

background

In light of the ongoing Tesla Fandom circular firing squad, I thought I would share this story again and add that in spite of all this I actually prefer Fred and Electrek to the up-and-comers who are helping bring his adventure to its inevitable conclusion https://t.co/1dbc09XSvW

— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 13, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

who are the musk superfans

engineers, libertarians, SETI users, apartheid fans, environmentalists, incels, vc's, pedo guys?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link

forgot 'guys who have a john galt reference on their license plates'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

space colonizers, grimes superfans

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link

people who think elon musk builds the cars

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

apple superfans in search of a new home

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

reddit posters

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link


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