outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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It’s also incredibly complicated to figure out the true excess deaths because there exists no comparable year where we had a lockdown that essentially wiped out regular flu transmission and greatly reduced transportation, crime, and work related accidents.

Kim, Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

conservatives turn to statistics to try to justify their already-formed beliefs, then act like it's the stats themselves that lead them to their beliefs.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 May 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

that was a great debunking KM

fatuous salad (symsymsym), Thursday, 14 May 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Total Cases - 252,245
Total Deaths - 2,305

These figures make me suspect that Russia is a) getting the outbreak later than everyone else, b) testing a lot more people, thus finding milder cases, and c) fiddling the fatality figures.

zoom séance goes tits up (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

oh boy.

DJI, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

re: the takedown of the stats upthread (well done KM), you're right, all of these authors aren't misguided folks who don't know how statistics work, they're just assholes that know they only have to create charts that pass the 3 second sniff tests for dummies and people who already have their minds made up.

I've continued wasting time refuting these posts but not directly to the stupid author, but people on my own wall, so that any well-meaning gullible people I know aren't seduced by it, or so they can share it on their walls, and when we're done, a whopping 3 people's minds are changed out of 111 million.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

andrew gelman's blog is great on this. he's very good, but it's also (for an academic) very willing to go on the record with criticisms of his peer's work.

here's a good post about that *insane* whitehouse CEA tweet defending the IHME model

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/14/so-much-of-academia-is-about-connections-and-reputation-laundering/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

otm

Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 14 May 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

Tragically otm, yes.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 May 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

I just posted this here: COVID-77

Seems as reliable as the IHME model IMHO

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 May 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

Johns Hopkins is offering a coursera on contact tracing

https://www.coursera.org/learn/covid-19-contact-tracing?edocomorp=covid-19-contact-tracing

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 15 May 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

had this been posted before? very bad news on several levels:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/11/south-korea-struggles-to-contain-new-outbreak-amid-anti-lgbt-backlash

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 15 May 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

The politics of ‘hygiene’ is to be feared. Once people sort populations into ‘clean’ and ‘unclean’ dangerous forces take control.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 15 May 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

Bordeaux today:


A Bordeaux, ce samedi, les consommateurs étaient de retour dans la rue Sainte-Catherine.https://t.co/7nsMwN4Qt5 pic.twitter.com/CuDubnjcok

— Sud Ouest Bordeaux (@SO_Bordeaux) May 16, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

consommateurs gonna consommateurs

nickn, Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

tis devoutly to be wished
seriously though: yikes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

tbf it is easy on rue st catherine to take a telephoto shot that exaggerates the crowds and how close people are. from the camera position to the end of the road is about a kilometre probably. what i worry about is all the people in those shops! even if they do limit the clientele.

xpost

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

I saw several people wearing masks under their noses today. Not for two seconds to take a breath. Permanently affixed there

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

I have a theory about why a few of them had so many kids with them

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Was on a plane yesterday (necessary family-related issue) and saw a good deal of mask-under-the-nose styles during the flight, and also switching planes in Dallas.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

about as effective as wearing it in yr ass

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Imo cock masks >>> ass masks.

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

Last night I saw a guy walking along coughing hard and spitting, not covering his mouth at all, while wearing a mask around his neck. Fortunately he was on the other side of the street from me. First person I've seen out walking around who seemed obviously sick.

Today I was coming back from a dog walk just as our mail was being delivered, and the mailperson followed me up onto my porch to ask if she could say hi to the dog and stood just outside the door so I would have had to basically shut it in her face. I told her he wasn't good with strangers (true), but she said, "Oh, I know him." Eventually I just gave up and put the dog outside so I could close the door and get away from her.

The fillyjonk who believed in pandemics (Lily Dale), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

there is at least some ill-fitting masks slipping off noses going on, but, yeah, a lot of people will never ever get it.

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/15/good-news-on-the-human-immune-response-to-the-coronavirus

^ recent paper found that people infected with the virus have been producing strong adaptive immune responses, which bodes pretty well for people not getting re-infected, eventual effective vaccines, and possible monoclonal antibody treatments in the shorter term. idk if anyone has linked it upthread, but that whole blog is pretty good for sifting through the virus treatment news churn.

circles, Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

I saw several people wearing masks under their noses today.

Mouthbreathers, it's OK.

nickn, Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

every one of them was David LEe Roth

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that circles

DJI, Sunday, 17 May 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

yes, excellent source, circles. thank you.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 17 May 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

Was on a plane yesterday (necessary family-related issue) and saw a good deal of mask-under-the-nose styles during the flight, and also switching planes in Dallas.

― ... (Eazy), Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:24 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

What's air travel like right now? Do airports and planes seem kind of empty? What kind of precautions are they taking?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/HorsemanKovpak/status/1261723559082278916/photo/1

lool!

calzino, Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

Quarantine day 100: pic.twitter.com/TLwubAkwiR

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) May 15, 2020

meisenfek, Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

^ worth a chuckle

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

Yes, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWD_VPiMlso

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

for like just a second, i thought that guy had managed to duplicate the golden girls guy voice

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 May 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

anyways, no "hallelujah" no credibility

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 May 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope. https://t.co/H8pSvY6rxn

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) May 17, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 May 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

Pools WERE OPEN in NYC yesterday! So much for allegedly having smarter politicians.

My best bet for staying alive seems to be staying in the hospital as long as possible.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 May 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

xp
"The x axis was set up that way to show descending values to more easily demonstrate peak values and counties on those dates. Our mission failed. We apologize. It is fixed."

I wonder how long I could get away with this if I tried it...

kinder, Monday, 18 May 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

haha hoos asked whether ppl could see how they were playing tricks w that on tweeter, i didn't see it because WHO WOULD EVEN EXPECT THAT A GRAPHMAKER WOULD SCRAMBLE THE ORDER OF VALUES ON THE AXIS wtf

j., Monday, 18 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

my wife jots down Georgia cases/deaths stats every day and she noticed those graphs were wrong as soon as she saw them

Brad C., Monday, 18 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

Wow

BREAKING: President Trump says he is taking hydroxychloriquine and has been doing so for weeks. @CBSNews #Covid_19

— Paula Reid (@PaulaReidCBS) May 18, 2020

Alba, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

God please give him a heart attack brought on by hydroxychloriquine

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Anyone got a 100% effective tiger protection charm bracelet they can flog him? Protects against 100% of tigers.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 May 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

he's putting it on his blackheads

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

Medical geographies are also caste geographies in India. Scholars such as Aniket Jaaware, Sanal Mohan, and Shailaja Paik have outlined what they term both the promiscuity and modernity of caste practices of touching and distancing—practices that have outlived the legal outlawing of untouchability in contemporary India. Thus contactless human interaction, although currently medically and scientifically ordained, will also consolidate caste prejudice in India. In a nation where physical and social distancing comes only too naturally for the large majority of upper castes, one can only shudder at the political reinforcement geofencing allows in demarcating infected (read: polluted) geographies. In historian Gopal Guru’s searing critique, untouchability is nothing but the upper castes’ fears of a “walking danger” that needs to be “quarantined.”

From this piece on Indian tech fascism.

https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/technofascism-in-india/

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

CNN had a lead piece up last night on Worldometer, which I've made reference to numerous times the past few weeks.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/05/world/worldometer-coronavirus-mystery/index.html

It's very long--I just skimmed. I take it some of their numbers are a little dicey, which didn't come as a big surprise in view of the relative anonymity of the site. I use it more for a general idea of what's happening, and I think it serves that purpose. Their numbers always seem a little bit ahead of what I see on CNN and on the CBC site in Canada, but the discrepancies aren't large. (A lot of the piece looks to be about a larger discrepancy having to do with Spain.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link


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