it's called dragon fodder
― ciderpress, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link
lmao they just used the June 1st B/R update to change how companion works
now you can't cast it automatically, you instead have to pay 3 to put it in your hand
pretty crazy, I can't remember them ever errata'ing an entire mechanic like this. maybe when they changed the Urzas Saga 'free' spells to read "you actually have to cast it to untap the lands" but even that was more like "yeah obviously that's how this was *supposed* to work" instead of "whoops this is too good, let's straight up nerf it"
― frogbs, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
looking at the banned cards, not sure what the issue with Agent of Treachery is (I don't play Standard) but Fires of Invention seems remarkably dumb, like Urza's-level "whats the worst that can happen" thinking
― frogbs, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
it's not a broken card really, just an unpleasant effect to have at the center of the format. think of it as being like the reflector mage ban i guess
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
yeah idk what kind of mana accel there is but I can see a card like that effectively making a bunch of 4-6 CMC cards unplayable. the fact that killing the creature doesn't give you your permanent back seems like an important pretty safety valve to get rid of
― frogbs, Monday, 1 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
it's being cheated out on turn 4 or 5 (and then blinked for another steal via your yorion which is always available to follow it up every game)
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 June 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
yes I am proud of myself
https://i.imgur.com/DFc4NEN.png
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link
A frog and 4 otters
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link
I thought Lukka would get a ban. The Lukka/Omen of the Sun combo seems like it will work with something else, if it's not Agent of Treachery. Agent was a good ban though, it's become really unfun to play against. Companion change is really strange, like the kind of nerfing that Hearthstone does to individual cards
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 06:00 (three years ago) link
This seems like overkill to me but what do I know:
https://www.polygon.com/2020/6/10/21287154/racist-magic-the-gathering-cards-banned-removed-from-database-wizards-apology
― pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
yeah that's just a kneejerk marketing dept response that no one was asking for
― ciderpress, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
I mean if you really want to go down that route MTG itself can easily be construed as racist.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
playing an irl game of magic tonight (you're allowed to hang with up to 6 people where I live)
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
supposedly the 1488 thing was just a weird coincidence, as they were indexed in alphabetical order
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
fwiw WoTC has kind of a checkered history with race issues, particularly when it comes to their hiring practices. its been sort of an open secret for a while.
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
GWoTC
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
I was pretty shocked to see some of these, and I think there's nothing wrong with throwing them out, even if it is a bit of an empty gesture.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 11 June 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
Weird to see these cards dredged up again after 25 years. I was definitely not old enough to understand what was going on on Invoke Prejudice (which I think I own a copy of somewhere)
― Vinnie, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link
banning a bunch of cards that nobody has played with in a decade is pretty fucking weird, it is practically by definition performative activism since nobody would ever think of these cards otherwise and now they're gonna sit on a ban list forever.
― frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link
anyway I have not played a game of paper Magic in about a year but I had a dream last night that I was a Pro Tour player and every time I won a game I'd scoop up my cards, look my opponent in the eye and say "abracadabra"
― frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
that's a strong bit
― ciderpress, Friday, 12 June 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
this Jumpstart idea seems extremely cool and kind of brilliant from a marketing perspective
can't believe it's taken this long for them to come up with it
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
i dont care about jumpset but i love how aggressive the reprints/pseudo-reprints in this core set are, lots of cards from ~10 years ago when i was really into standard, which is making me want to play again
― ciderpress, Thursday, 18 June 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link
lol they really did bring back phasing for one mythic rare, how weird
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
the reminder text is way cleaner than you'd expect!
― ciderpress, Thursday, 18 June 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
that almost makes it stranger, they do exile/return effects all the time and the differences with phasing (which, if I remember correctly, are that counters & auras stay on, and it's in a different place than the 'exile' zone) don't really seem significant enough to bring back a 23 year old keyword which was kind of famous for confusing everyone. but I'm really amused that they did.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 June 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Wizards is about to drop another big artist I think. Been a long time coming for this guy.
― Kim, Monday, 22 June 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
Yep he's out. Unfortunately gonna be seeing his art for many months to come due to how early in advance they produce things
― Vinnie, Monday, 22 June 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
gotta love the final days of a sealed league
https://i.imgur.com/2YdJxc9.png
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
im worried thats what mtgo standard is gonna be like if i try to play again this fall. don't really want to get into arena though
― ciderpress, Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
update
https://i.imgur.com/Hxuwgk1.png
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
Nice of you to give Patroclus a bit of hope
― Vinnie, Thursday, 25 June 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
I felt bad for him, we had basically the same deck but he was losing in every fashion possible; he had the stuck at 2 land game, the mull to 5 game, the topdecked 4 lands in a row game, the oops forgot that had reach game, the can’t believe you fucking drew more removal game, the wow that mythic is stupidly good game, etc.
― frogbs, Friday, 26 June 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link
anyway I’ve played 2 matches of M21 and wow what a stark difference, I forgot what the “grind out card advantage” style of Magic was like
― frogbs, Friday, 26 June 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link
I really love Core Sets
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 26 June 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link
I like how core sets have just become a dumping ground for cool designs that just don't fit into other sets. though Brash Taunter has got to be one of the most unfun cards I've ever played against.
I got lucky to open Teferi, can anyone explain why this card is so expensive? It actually seems kinda underpowered for a big blue planeswalker
― frogbs, Friday, 26 June 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
its the face card of the set, people are gonna assume its good until proven otherwise
remember that you can activate him on all your opponents turns too bc of his instant speed clause
― ciderpress, Friday, 26 June 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
lol yeah I literally *just* figured that out
I am guessing this means it's gonna be huge in Commander which yep means $$$$$$
― frogbs, Friday, 26 June 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
I think the best color in the set is Red. Shock & Scorching Dragonfire take out a huge % of creatures and the Spellgorger Weird is quite good, costing 3 instead of 4 is huge and the format has a lot of cheap cantrips to power it up. Second is probably Green. Drowsing Tyrannodon is ridiculously easy to turn on and the mana dork is super good value. Plus you've got Hunter's Edge which is obviously great. Weakest has got to be Black. Grasp is good but it doesn't really hit much that Dragonfire doesn't, plus BB can be difficult when you really don't want Black as your main color. As far as the archetypes go:
B/W lifegain can do ridiculous things but it's a bit awkward that the triggers are just at the end of *your* turn, so you can't hold lifelinkers back on defense. I've done well with this deck but the games are challenging.
G/R monsters w/ 4-power triggers is probably the most solid archetype, especially with Garruk's Whatever & Furious Rise, both of which take care of the main problem this deck has, a lack of card advantage.
U/R spells has worked really well for me. Fun to play too. Then again I always seem to get 2-3 Kinetic Augur.
G/W +1/+1 counters....looks better than it is. You can make some insane plays with the uncommon Hydra & Invigorating Surge but you need to draw solid opening hands and have things play out in a certain way. You lose to the decks with a lot of good removal.
Least favorite card has to be Brash Taunter, every time I play it it dies immediately but when my opponent has it I have one of those decks with exactly zero answers for it
Second least favorite is Teferi's Ageless Insight, between the special border & the mana cost I think I got the planeswalker whenever I open it in Sealed, which would make the event a freeroll (and then some). The card is weirdly playable though.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
I've only done one draft so far but I drafted a UB control with 4 Finishing Blow and card draw and got run over 3 out of 5 games. I obv don't know how fast the format is with so little data but combined with what I've heard it seems I can't durdle like in the last few formats
Brash Taunter seems like a really annoying card
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
from what i've seen this is one of those sets where slow decks just can't keep pace with good aggro/tempo decks unless you manage to get a shitload of the 1-2 mana removal spells. think original zendikar. finishing blow seems bad
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
last night i played against someone named "tombrady", when it started I wrote "hey good luck on the Bucs next season" and he spent the whole match chatting as though he actually WAS Tom Brady which was pretty funny and honestly I can't prove that it wasn't
― frogbs, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
They finally pulled the trigger on Teferi and Reclamation bans, along with various others. I'm wondering if it's now time to start dipping my toes back into this stupid game.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 3 August 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
just wait for fall rotation at this point imo
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 August 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
still think its extremely not coincidence that standard gets more unstable the more 'blocks' they have per year
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
last night i played against someone named "tombrady"
I just played against TomHanks, cool to see more celebs getting into the game
― Vinnie, Monday, 3 August 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
It's kind of hilarious that they are doing this so close to rotation. Wilderness Reclamation has been a miserable card pretty much since it was printed.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 3 August 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
the new "Supreme Draft" format on MTGO is pretty neat.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
they just did a big reveal stream
zendikar rising mechanics are:kickerlandfall"party" mechanic (stuff that cares about you having a wizard, a warrior, a rogue, and a cleric)double faced split cards that are land/spell, or land/land for the duals
winter 2021 set is kaldheim, viking themespring 2021 set is strixhaven, magic school themesummer 2021 set is a d&d crossover set instead of a core setfall 2021 is some sort of innistrad vampires vs werewolves double set, no details on how that will work
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
tried a sealed league with Zendikar Rising
some very very early takeaways:
average power level is pretty strong, very rare to see weak/vanilla cards in anyone's deckdunno what to make of the Party mechanic, it's cool but seems like something you'd want in a set without a lot else going on? there's tons of stuff happening hereU/B Rogues are pretty powerful, lots of synergy and high-value cards. doesn't seem too hard to mill someone to deathmuch like Ikoria there appears to be a lot of game-ruining rares
― frogbs, Friday, 18 September 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link