Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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i.e. the expanded version of bill's podcast?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:47 (one month ago) link

The fuck you talking about?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:26 (one month ago) link

please read the first 30 words if you don't wish to see this content itt in the future

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:34 (one month ago) link


Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:32 (one month ago) link

Glenn, what on earth is the rationale behind the 'RECOMMENDED SONGS Based on the songs in this playlist' thing? It seems to be entirely based on the song/artist names (ie recommending the Frozen soundtrack if you listen to Ben Frost) which seems a fairly unhelpful guide to what someone might want to listen to.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:34 (one month ago) link

Ha - I don't think that's usually the way it works. It comes up with reasonably sensible suggestions on mine. Maybe Ben Frost gets a lot of listens from kids trying to type Frozen

Alba, Friday, 22 May 2020 00:53 (one month ago) link

I started a playlist with the "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence" theme and all the recommended songs were Christmas music

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:44 (one month ago) link

and bad boys ost

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:50 (one month ago) link

lol playlist "Snow" by Ben Frost
recommended songs:
Snow Patrol "You're All I Have"
Miike Snow- "Faker"
Hank Snow- "Rockin' Rollin' Ocean"
THe Reindeer Section- "Cartwheels"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:53 (one month ago) link

Belle & Sebastian- "Fox in the Snow"
Nick Cave- "Fifteen Feet of Pure White"
RHCP- "Snow (Hey)"
Phoebe Snow- "Isn't It a Shame"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:56 (one month ago) link

clicking refresh until I get "Informer"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:57 (one month ago) link

Recommended Songs recommends songs based on the playlist title if you don't have any songs in it yet. And it's supposed to switch to recommendations based on the songs as soon as there are any songs, but at the moment it seems to only switch once there are at least 6 of them. But if you add at least 6 and then hit Refresh a couple times to clear out the title-based recommendations, you should get some that make more sense. It works by looking at what other people tend to put on playlists with the songs you have so far, so if you're making a playlist with a strong theme based on something outside of your own head, the recs can be downright uncanny. For that matter, even the title-based recs are sometimes terrific. If you're going for something more personal or particular, though, there's no guarantee it will match what other people have collectively done before.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 22 May 2020 02:30 (one month ago) link

5 seems like enough, actually. If I add Deaf Center, Forest Swords, Grouper and Oneohtrix Point Never to that Ben Frost song, refreshing gets me recs for Taylor Deuprae, Anna Thorvalsdottir, Bersarin Quartett, Lawrence English, Sarah Davachi and Fennesz, none of those songs involving snow...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 22 May 2020 02:36 (one month ago) link

I've found so much good stuff from the playlist radio function - that thing that arrives after a playlist/album has finished. It's a great feature.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 22 May 2020 07:45 (one month ago) link

Cheers, glenn--it's always interesting learning how it all works.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 22 May 2020 12:57 (one month ago) link

About damn time

J. Sam, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:21 (one month ago) link

nice. hope it doesn’t bork things too much.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:22 (one month ago) link

Good thing they did that after I cleaned up my Liked Playlist. Really,

Trouble Is My Métier (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:24 (one month ago) link

fucking finally

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:27 (one month ago) link


Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:40 (one month ago) link

though this feels a bit like the programming meme where you insert pauses in the code to remove later.

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 16:42 (one month ago) link

how is spotify with local files these days? i’m so sick of apple music forgetting where in a 3-hour DJ mix i was.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:00 (one month ago) link

My general sense is that it is not as good as it once was, but I don't have specific problems I'm grappling with at the moment

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:11 (one month ago) link

hmm. Might make a bigger library. Is it just my crap phone or does having a large library make the Android app slower? Even when not much of it is downloaded.

maffew12, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

Blessed day

Spottie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:03 (one month ago) link

So a week or two back something changed again and instead of showing the most recent "appears on" features, the iphone app now shows the most popular "appears on" albums/playlists instead, which i guess is all fine and dandy if you're looking for the most heavily anthologized Elton John tracks or whatever, but a total disaster for anyone (me) trying to keep track of new dancehall riddims, which are now basically unsearchable unless you already know the name of the riddim. No more "oh hey, that's i-octane singing, let me check if i can find out the name of the riddim through looking at his artist page." Sigh.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

I had prepared this very same post. It’s the same on desktop btw, but it’s worse on mobile because it only shows you 25 releases - which was sort of okay when it was the 25 most recent ones, but now it’s a disaster, especially when you’re following genres like dancehall or Afropop or rap or any other genre where people do lots of features on other people’s tracks or albums, and that’s actually most genres these days, I’d think. So no, I don’t get this decision at all.

Case in point: a couple of days ago maura posted a song on the rolling r&b thread, it was Miguel on someone else’s track. It had slipped my mind who the main artist was, so I checked Miguel’s Spotify page for his latest collaboration - but it was not to be found among the 25 that were shown. How is that helping the user at all - or the artist for that matter? “Hey, I’ve done a new thing, but guess what, you don’t get to see it!”

(and yeah, it’s probably worst for dancehall. The other week I wanted to check for riddims an artist was on in 2011 or 2012 and was forced to search 120 or whatever releases sorted in random chronological order)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:48 (one month ago) link

The Appears On thing involves issues that have nothing to do with what you're seeing. Hopefully it'll be back soon...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:16 (one month ago) link

I don't know if this helps at all as a workaround but you can add year:2020 to your search to get this year's releases. Doing that with Miguel got me his appearance on Too Much by Ro James as the first track on Songs.

And for new dancehall releases, you could try®ion=US or but I know Spotify's idea of what's in a genre isn't always the most accurate.

Alba, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:21 (one month ago) link

That search-for-year thing is very useful, thanx alba.

Glenn, if you’re hopeful I’m hopeful too, but you do sound awfully mysterious!

“Coming soon to a theater near you: 5G - The Movie - it has nothing to do with what you’re seeing...

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 06:07 (one month ago) link

And thanks, Alba, I'll definitely try that.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:39 (one month ago) link

i love searching by year look at this amazing time capsule from the early 40s

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:22 (one month ago) link

Amazing colorization work!

DJI, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:36 (one month ago) link

Track 2 seems a pretty inappropriate tribute to Pearl Harbor but what can you expect from one of those "edgy" swing bands.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

Local Oafs is a great name

badg, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

Am I missing an easy way to remove albums from a playlist?

Or is just a case of doing it track by track from your phone or (slightly easier) highlighting all the tracks on the desktop app?

groovypanda, Thursday, 28 May 2020 07:51 (one month ago) link

I love Canvas. I just found out that Kraftwerk have added some neat little animations (taken from their live show, but not in 3D obv) to go with some tracks on The Catalogue on Spotify. Is there any way to browse songs that have Canvas?

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Thursday, 28 May 2020 08:03 (one month ago) link

what's the deal with this piece of shit clipping off the first half second or more from tracks/albums? particularly bad/noticeable on the MJQ's "versailles", also on "shotgun willie". not OK at all

no (Left), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:45 (one month ago) link

Dammit, we thought our secret scheme to get rich by shaving .5s off of old jazz and country songs would NEVER be detected. At least not until "Take Five" got whittled down to "Take Four", but by then we would have been long gone.

(I checked every version of "Versailles" available in the US, and none of them were clipped. Got a link to the one you were playing?)

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 June 2020 15:00 (one month ago) link

glenn, you are a saint for still actually trying to help

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:02 (one month ago) link

oh I didn’t realise we had an insider on here. thought it was just a bitching thread

this def sounds clipped but it’s pretty minor I guess

no (Left), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:31 (one month ago) link

Are you listening over bluetooth? I had a cheapo speaker which for some reason missed the first bit of a track, probably not as much as 1/2 second, but enough to notice.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:34 (one month ago) link

That happens with Airplay too with my AV receiver. I think it has a race condition between the CODEC and the power amp.

DJI, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:36 (one month ago) link

Well, I don't know the song well myself, so you could be right, but the versions on Spotify are all consistent, and match the corresponding ones on YouTube, so if there's an issue, I'd have to guess that it's at the label/master end...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:53 (one month ago) link

Ok it could be my equipment or something but it happens with or without bluetooth. it’s not as catastrophic as I made out I only notice it if I’m previously familiar with CD/mp3 versions. probably is a master issue

no (Left), Monday, 1 June 2020 18:02 (one month ago) link

More voice query weirdness, via Google and Sonos this time. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen by Abba' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Abba, Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:14 (one month ago) link

My latest horror is

"Computer, play Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan on Spotify"

"Playing Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan Tribute Band from Spotify"

Thankfully in this case if I drop the "by Bob Dylan" it plays the right version.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:38 (one month ago) link

I wonder if it's possible to steal from the tip jar of chancers like Bob Dylan Tribute Band.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:40 (one month ago) link

On the plus side, the Beatles problem seems to be mainly fixed. If I ask for a track by the Beatles the Beatles tribute acts don't get a look in.

Weirdly, it's the opposite situation to with Lay Lady Lay though – if I don't specify the Beatles then I get cover versions, though not by soundalike tribute acts:

Computer, play Tomorrow Never Knows on Spotfiy. Playing Tomorrow Never Knows by Aso from Spotify
Computer, play You Won't See Me on Spotify. Playing You Won't See by Anne Murray from Spotify.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:51 (one month ago) link

This is a total bummer, and probably means I’m moving to Tidal or something:

DJI, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:09 (three weeks ago) link

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