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and then a completely baffling instrumental lol i see they're going for some sort of total-fragmentation vibe

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

I thought “the end (music for cars)” was a little trite the first time I heard it but I’m into it now

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

this sort of negotiates its way through various fragmented & intense moods to a complete freakout/breakdown at around nothing revealed/everything denied -> tonight (i wish i was your boy), v intrigued how it negotiates its way back (or if it does)

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

"If You're Too Shy" is the song I'm gonna listen to a million times

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

'shiny collarbone' continues to exist within the madness, this is all building up to 'if you're too shy' isn't it

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

yes, after which the true breakdown happens imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

this feels like the true expansion/refinement of ILIWYS (for example 'if you're too shy' is reminiscent of 'change of heart', 'she's american' AND 'this must be my dream' but approached from a new, slightly grander angle), last album shd have been the Love It If We Made It EP ;)

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

[whichever of the lesser singles you prefer]
how to draw/petrichor
LIIWMI
[whichever of the deep cuts you inexplicably love]
i always wanna die (sometimes)

i digress

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

rn i'm just thinking about how good "the birthday party" is

:)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

these last few tracks feel really confident, like something has been overcome. like they're drawing power from the madness, or that they're okay with it. the basslines are very emphatic

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

i feel like it's less of a refinement of ILIWYS and more of an explosion of it. the coherent widescreen emotional arc of ILIWYS has been blown up, leaving behind extreme fragmentation. i still don't really like or get the sequencing but i can't deny it's interesting

ufo, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

'the end' and 'roadkill' were the weird tonal jumps for me, everything else has sort of made sense, but i expect those to make sense as well eventually

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

i love the way matty sings "i'm just a BUSY GUY" in "roadkill" so much lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

great closer, great album. their best

imago, Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

throw this entire band in jail if they don’t release a 20 minute cut of “then because she goes”

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

i never fucked in a car, i was lying
i do it on my bed, lying down, not trying

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

"playing on my mind" is the sort of song they've done several times before ("nana", "she lays down") that I've just never been able to settle into

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

"what should I say" !!!!!!

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

this is their “wowed zowee”. incredible album

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

either their best or second best after 'i like it when you sleep'

flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

i rolled my eyes when i first heard it but the greta thunberg spoken word made me cry last nite lol

flopson, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

I can see why some people never give this band a chance. They’re awfully all over the place. I get fans view this as a feature, not a bug.

I’ve warmed up to them a bit - partly through repeated listens of “somebody else” and “love it if we made it”, which are undeniably some of the best pop/rock? songs of the past decade - but the rabid fandom is still unexplainable to me. They have one or two songs every album in which I can almost see it, but then the rest of it loses me.

That said, this album is still all over the place, but was more enjoyable to me on first listens than any other previous ones.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

“If you’re too shy” is my favorite one on first impression. I think I might only like them when they’re doing the 80’s thing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

Ok just relistened to that one and that song is IT. The one giving me the urge to replay on loop. Here goes my third play.

Even if the rest of the album was terrible that song alone makes the admission price worth it.

What band’s style does it remind me of? Is it The Cars?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Me and my brother regularly share records we should listen to. And he is a gay dude who told me about the Carly b side record before I knew about it, so he’s not pop-unfriendly. But I told him today that this is album of the year potential and he was really anti, even compared the band to muse ??? I think a lot of people have people have really bad perceptions of them that I don’t think many people have about things these days, it feels a bit more 90s knee-jerk rockism than most things have, to the point where it’s hard to notice other modern examples

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 23 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 May 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

its painful to me as a punk rock doofus that they are *so* good at rocking out but rarely take the opportunity to for more than 1 or 2 songs per album

i feel like between this album and the last one they have like, 10 songs in the vein of “Jesus Christ 2005”, but only pull out the gnarly post punk chops like 3 times max

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

they dont have that many acoustic songs and none of them were as good as the ones on this album

ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

I like the acoustic songs too i just want an album worth and not just “lol what if the first song on every album after the intro we were the worlds best post punk band but only for that song”. i want them to up the ratio, like to get equal to the ratio of garage songs or instrumentals

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

i don’t think it’s that much of a ripoff (mb i listen to too many bands that sound like that that wasn’t even the first reference) but it’s better than anything they’ve done in at least a decade imho

flopson, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

The rocking song is so much of a McLusky/Future of the Left ripoff it kind of irritates me

This album is good, just skip the first three tracks and I don't find it "challenging" at all

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 01:12 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

People = https://youtu.be/CvICqhQzExI

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

the shoegaze moment of 'then because she goes' is also stunning as rock-outs go

imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

Re: sequencing, I find 80 minute albums are too long to digest as albums, and I don't often listen to them in one sitting. So the sequencing here doesn't really bother me. "The End" is the only song that has stuck out to me for taking the energy immediately back down after "People"

Vinnie, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

i would like to apologize for any previous negative statements i may have made about “frail state of mind”

― J0rdan S., Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

same here but for “people”

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

*polishes “i have always been correct about ‘people’ by the 1975” trophy*

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

I can't imagine listening to most of this often but it's definitely impressive, they're reaaaally good stylistic mimics. I love pretty much all of the UK garage-y tracks.

'What Should I Say' feels like it was written right after hearing Kanye's 'Fade'.

'Me & You Together Song' is both fascinating & repellent as a pastiche (of what exactly, Oasis and certain '90s corporate alt-pop?), with that over-swung rhythm feel that's really gross.

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, May 22, 2020 3:56 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

great post, I’ve been thinking about “fascinating and repellent pastiche” since last night and I think it’s a compelling critique of them as a band, and also what makes them both so rousing and so polarizing: the shamelessness with which they try so many different looks, how convincingly they pull most of it off, how excruciatingly sincere they are when so many other bands would coat their ambition with irony...band of the decade

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

brad you are always right you don’t have to rub it in

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

*jumps threads and listens to "having no head" once* when are the 1975 going to collab w/ underworld and also the necks

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

cldn't tell how much i think the album flows or not b/c felt like i was in a dream state the whole time

lowercase (eric), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

The way the drums run up against the guitar ripples in "Me & You Together Song" reminds me of Third Eye Blind, actually.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

yeah there is a lot of sleazy 90s tics on this record that they do SO well, I thought of 3eb too

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

xxxp i hope theres breakbeats on the next album

ufo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

I think there's some very specific phrasings in People that are very much Andrew Falkous from McClusky/FotL

anyway enjoying the album for the most part, will withhold any minor critiques in deference to the Grateful Dead/Jehovah's Witness/Pink Floyd Rules tenor of the thread

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

At Target yesterday I bought this thing on CD b/c why not

Is it on two discs or is it trimmed in some way?

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

one disc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

given the insane tech advances since the 90s you'd think they'd have found a way to add 30 seconds to a maximum CD runtime

imago, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

apparently they did!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

I know this is too early, but a possible top.

the birthday party
me & you together song
if you're too shy (let me know)
bagsy not in net
what should I say
roadkill
then because she goes
shiny collarbone
yeah I know
jesus christ 2005 god bless america
frail state of mind
I think there's something you should know
guys
having no head
tonight (I wish I was your boy)
nothing revealed / everything denied
playing on my mind
don't worry
the end (music for cars)
streaming
people
the 1975

I already regret this.

Nourry, Sunday, 24 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link


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