Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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My general sense is that it is not as good as it once was, but I don't have specific problems I'm grappling with at the moment

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:11 (one month ago) link

hmm. Might make a bigger library. Is it just my crap phone or does having a large library make the Android app slower? Even when not much of it is downloaded.

maffew12, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 17:38 (one month ago) link

Blessed day

Spottie, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:03 (one month ago) link

So a week or two back something changed again and instead of showing the most recent "appears on" features, the iphone app now shows the most popular "appears on" albums/playlists instead, which i guess is all fine and dandy if you're looking for the most heavily anthologized Elton John tracks or whatever, but a total disaster for anyone (me) trying to keep track of new dancehall riddims, which are now basically unsearchable unless you already know the name of the riddim. No more "oh hey, that's i-octane singing, let me check if i can find out the name of the riddim through looking at his artist page." Sigh.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

I had prepared this very same post. It’s the same on desktop btw, but it’s worse on mobile because it only shows you 25 releases - which was sort of okay when it was the 25 most recent ones, but now it’s a disaster, especially when you’re following genres like dancehall or Afropop or rap or any other genre where people do lots of features on other people’s tracks or albums, and that’s actually most genres these days, I’d think. So no, I don’t get this decision at all.

Case in point: a couple of days ago maura posted a song on the rolling r&b thread, it was Miguel on someone else’s track. It had slipped my mind who the main artist was, so I checked Miguel’s Spotify page for his latest collaboration - but it was not to be found among the 25 that were shown. How is that helping the user at all - or the artist for that matter? “Hey, I’ve done a new thing, but guess what, you don’t get to see it!”

(and yeah, it’s probably worst for dancehall. The other week I wanted to check for riddims an artist was on in 2011 or 2012 and was forced to search 120 or whatever releases sorted in random chronological order)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:48 (one month ago) link

The Appears On thing involves issues that have nothing to do with what you're seeing. Hopefully it'll be back soon...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:16 (one month ago) link

I don't know if this helps at all as a workaround but you can add year:2020 to your search to get this year's releases. Doing that with Miguel got me his appearance on Too Much by Ro James as the first track on Songs.

And for new dancehall releases, you could try®ion=US or but I know Spotify's idea of what's in a genre isn't always the most accurate.

Alba, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 00:21 (one month ago) link

That search-for-year thing is very useful, thanx alba.

Glenn, if you’re hopeful I’m hopeful too, but you do sound awfully mysterious!

“Coming soon to a theater near you: 5G - The Movie - it has nothing to do with what you’re seeing...

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 06:07 (one month ago) link

And thanks, Alba, I'll definitely try that.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 09:39 (one month ago) link

i love searching by year look at this amazing time capsule from the early 40s

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:22 (one month ago) link

Amazing colorization work!

DJI, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 18:36 (one month ago) link

Track 2 seems a pretty inappropriate tribute to Pearl Harbor but what can you expect from one of those "edgy" swing bands.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link

Local Oafs is a great name

badg, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 20:24 (one month ago) link

Am I missing an easy way to remove albums from a playlist?

Or is just a case of doing it track by track from your phone or (slightly easier) highlighting all the tracks on the desktop app?

groovypanda, Thursday, 28 May 2020 07:51 (one month ago) link

I love Canvas. I just found out that Kraftwerk have added some neat little animations (taken from their live show, but not in 3D obv) to go with some tracks on The Catalogue on Spotify. Is there any way to browse songs that have Canvas?

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Thursday, 28 May 2020 08:03 (one month ago) link

what's the deal with this piece of shit clipping off the first half second or more from tracks/albums? particularly bad/noticeable on the MJQ's "versailles", also on "shotgun willie". not OK at all

no (Left), Sunday, 31 May 2020 16:45 (one month ago) link

Dammit, we thought our secret scheme to get rich by shaving .5s off of old jazz and country songs would NEVER be detected. At least not until "Take Five" got whittled down to "Take Four", but by then we would have been long gone.

(I checked every version of "Versailles" available in the US, and none of them were clipped. Got a link to the one you were playing?)

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 June 2020 15:00 (one month ago) link

glenn, you are a saint for still actually trying to help

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:02 (one month ago) link

oh I didn’t realise we had an insider on here. thought it was just a bitching thread

this def sounds clipped but it’s pretty minor I guess

no (Left), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:31 (one month ago) link

Are you listening over bluetooth? I had a cheapo speaker which for some reason missed the first bit of a track, probably not as much as 1/2 second, but enough to notice.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:34 (one month ago) link

That happens with Airplay too with my AV receiver. I think it has a race condition between the CODEC and the power amp.

DJI, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:36 (one month ago) link

Well, I don't know the song well myself, so you could be right, but the versions on Spotify are all consistent, and match the corresponding ones on YouTube, so if there's an issue, I'd have to guess that it's at the label/master end...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:53 (one month ago) link

Ok it could be my equipment or something but it happens with or without bluetooth. it’s not as catastrophic as I made out I only notice it if I’m previously familiar with CD/mp3 versions. probably is a master issue

no (Left), Monday, 1 June 2020 18:02 (one month ago) link

More voice query weirdness, via Google and Sonos this time. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen by Abba' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Abba, Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:14 (one month ago) link

My latest horror is

"Computer, play Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan on Spotify"

"Playing Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan Tribute Band from Spotify"

Thankfully in this case if I drop the "by Bob Dylan" it plays the right version.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:38 (one month ago) link

I wonder if it's possible to steal from the tip jar of chancers like Bob Dylan Tribute Band.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:40 (one month ago) link

On the plus side, the Beatles problem seems to be mainly fixed. If I ask for a track by the Beatles the Beatles tribute acts don't get a look in.

Weirdly, it's the opposite situation to with Lay Lady Lay though – if I don't specify the Beatles then I get cover versions, though not by soundalike tribute acts:

Computer, play Tomorrow Never Knows on Spotfiy. Playing Tomorrow Never Knows by Aso from Spotify
Computer, play You Won't See Me on Spotify. Playing You Won't See by Anne Murray from Spotify.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:51 (one month ago) link

This is a total bummer, and probably means I’m moving to Tidal or something:

DJI, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:09 (one month ago) link

Or you know buy music

DJI, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:16 (one month ago) link

Oh no that's seriously bad news

Alba, Saturday, 6 June 2020 21:09 (one month ago) link

Ffs Spotify. They seem hell bent on making their app as un-user friendly as possible. From little things like not being able copy an artist name on the desktop app (something so simple that someone must have made a choice to remove it) to preventing anyone from using this huge resource for anything useful while stripping away any flexibility. The leadership must be on some 5D chess shit cos from down here it may seems bone headed and frankly antagonistic to users. Itss almost like it knows it's got the best catalogue of the streamers and the fancy algorithm (which admittedly is very good) will keep people subscribed, so they're making the baseline experience so low that any small improvements in the future will look miraculous.

closed beta (NotEnough), Sunday, 7 June 2020 07:26 (one month ago) link

hey glenn, can you get "FENIX FLEXIN TYPE BEAT" off Baby Dee's Popular tracks list? I'm sure she'd be amused but hey.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 June 2020 02:14 (one month ago) link


glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 June 2020 13:20 (one month ago) link


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:48 (one month ago) link

That is really a bummer about djay integration. I like just playing with that stuff. How is Tidal's catalogue these days?

In the mood now for Discover Weekly, first time in ages. I had been automatically saving them to a playlist. Today I ran "artist de-dup" on smarterplaylists and went from 335 hours to just 71 hours worth of robot suggestions to catch up on. Maybe.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 14:02 (one month ago) link

I recently put my auto-archives of Release Radar through and have been listening to a (still long) playlist that consists only of … high-valence chamber pop. It's much better than it sounds.

Alba, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:03 (one month ago) link

I'm frustrated because my Discover Weeklies (which aren't a "discovery" for me...stuff like Big Star or Wire, but that's ok because youngsters are just discovering that stuff)...

Anyway, my DWs are extremely white and kind of fortysomething indie cornball thing that annoys me to no end, which is weird because I spend half my time or more listening to artists who aren't white. Meanwhile, my Release Radar has a lot of black, Latino or Asian artists. The difference is pretty stark.

Also, the pop and dance music I listen to NEVER seems to make it on DW, whereas RR accurately reflects my taste.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:28 (one month ago) link

I mean, I don't hate the DWs, but they tend to recommend stuff I was listening to in 1993, so I do listen to them so see if I still like that stuff...but none of the goth, dance, r&b, soul, reggae etc. shows up.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

is this real or a forgery?

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:52 (one month ago) link

i ask bc there's no information about an album if you google it and i shazam'ed Mindful Bliss and it came up as Mark Barrott's Coming Up for Air but then i shazam'd Bittersweet and it's a song called Fzv by Tomash Kofa

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:55 (one month ago) link

and the late great says sandcastles on salinas is a future loop foundation track + he recognizes some others too

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:57 (one month ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats


2) Only very subtle binaural flourishes

but it's pretty easy to just whack this on while working. However I do sort of wonder if this is the audio equivalent of Huel.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:05 (one month ago) link

Spotify fueling a barely music renaissance

(and I'm here for it)

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:11 (one month ago) link

I came across a Delta Wave Deep Sleep one when I was searching for ambient playlists a week or two ago

Seemed an odd mix of some ambient sounding tracks and others that were just bass hums xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:44 (one month ago) link

there are so many incredible ambient records from the 90s that don't exist on spotify.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

Yes. I wonder how hard it would be for a label to get some older releases on these popular focus/work/study playlists.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:02 (one month ago) link

It doesn't even seem to be a genre on there - just 'ambient sounds' so gets lumped in with all the 'pink noise' and 'whale sounds' shit.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:07 (one month ago) link

if glenn doesn't have a "pink noise and whale sounds" category already...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:35 (one month ago) link

Can anyone (glenn?) explain how this happens

It's supposed to be Slow Motion by SFF but about 47 seconds in it starts playing Babin by Josky Kiambukuta & Youlou Mabiala O_o

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:55 (four weeks ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

Aren't "binaural beats" "beats" in the sense of a rhythmic interference pattern between frequencies? Like when you're tuning a stringed instrument against another string and you get it very close and you can hear a tremolo-like "beating" effect which speeds up or slows down as you turn the tuning peg.

But yeah, it's a confusing name for them as a playlist on a music site.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:27 (four weeks ago) link

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