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Did anyone every figure what the "DH" letters referred to?
http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/andy_loftus.sized.jpg
Obviously, the local high school. Definitely local, I say, because this is definitely in Mom's house:
http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/bye.sized.jpg

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"DH" is Drexel Hill, where the action's happening.

Sarah B., Thursday, 2 February 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think we're going to get any closer to discovering anything about Wayne by examining the minutiae of the Diehl world. Wayne is clearly not a part of that scene, or only very peripherally. The "two-beer queer" comment underlines the point.

Wayne looks like Diehl's inferior, since Diehl is this tall, rangy guy who clearly appeals to the women of his entourage. Diehl is basically a smalltown jock. But Diehl's education stopped at high school, and since coming back cashed-up from Iraq, he's been unemployed and, judging from his myspace profile, in no hurry to get a job either ("I dont like to work so I dont"). His prospects aren't really too great. His best friend Tommy Turnball also never went to college and works as a labourer. Turnball describes his life thusly: "I usually just do the same shit every day, work, drink, sleep, repeat." As for intellectual stimulus, he boasts that "I have actually read a book I didn't have to: Black Hawk Down." We're talking about guys with very narrow horizons here. And Diehl's tour of duty in Iraq probably only narrowed his further. He'll probably never escape his home town and will end up in some dead-end job, still drinking with his pal Tommy and mooning for the camera.

Wayne, on the other hand, looks like a college kid to me. He's doing computer studies or something. He may not look too great now, but in ten years' time, he's going to be doing a lot better than Diehl.

lupine luck, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

come on guys, wayne is not introspective and quiet. he is clearly the loud-in-an-obnoxious-not-funny-way guy who thinks he's a bit of a party animal.

evidence.
http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/awkward.sized.jpg
probably just made some blokeish comments "i like me hooters i do" or "fancy a threesome laaadies?" and the girls turn away in disgust, see the way laurel did a "Tim from The Office"'s face, like when keith the accountant bloke talks about giving girls orgasms.

reference
http://homepage.mac.com/elliottday/theoffice/gallery1/keithtimroom.jpg


ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

ref2:
http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/andy_loftus.sized.jpg
"i loves mah beer i do"
erm.. hello! HI I'M A PARTY MAN Y'ALL. quiet introspective type with two beers in hand? he probably is going to down those beers brutishly in a bit

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/more_cheers.sized.jpg

well, what do you know?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

most likely, he'd then pass out spread eagle on someone's floor like any good introvert do best.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/yeah.sized.jpg

i rest my case

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Unlike Diehl, Wayne hasn't gone straight from school into the army. He's probably studying at a nearby college.

Several of Diehl's friends are studying at Delaware County Community College right now (which is how they met Jenna and Danielle and Ashlee, who are a couple years younger and not graduates of Upper Darby Senior High School) -- so this wouldn't be atypical.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

perhaps it's a fancy dress party, "you came as a doofus too? oh man"

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Your reading of those photos is a little harsh, Ken. I read him as pretty shy and awkward in the infamous three-on-the-bed shot. As for the one where he's got two beers, obviously he's gallantly offered to get up and get one of the girls a beer.

This photo brings out the Wayne's vulnerability. Come on, he doesn't look boorish at all here:

lupine logic, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

At this point, I actually do find myself interested in Diehl's world in all of its pretty vapidity. Apart from the Slayer shirt that the guy with Laurel (whom I still can't ID) is wearing, I never would've guessed that all of these guys seem to be into metal first and foremost. (Their girlfriends and other female friends they associate with mostly listen to Top 40.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread is fucking crazy psycho stalkerdom of the highest order, you realise.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

No, no its not.

Stalkerdom is when you enter into someone else's world uninvited. Like if killy were to actually go and show this picture - or any of the related others - to someone at the KOP Hooters or West Chester to see if we could get some more info.

As it is, any of the info we've gathered has simply been by taking advantage of the information THEY posted in the PUBLIC domain about themselves. We've just had a bit more fun than usual b/c we have nothing better to do during the day.

I find nothing inherently wrong about this. I find it quite amusing.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i knew a guy just like him, who's from Greenback, Tennessee
i met him at a cafe, it was a gig in old city
he didn't like his hometown, where every crack's a ho.
but he is stuck there in greenback, cos there's nowhere else to go.

he was once in love with a girl, it was her sweet 13
her papa offered him cash to leave, so he'd never be seen
our hero took the money, and had these words to tell
"well ah'm taking yaah money, but ah'm taking yaah girl as well!"

the story somehow turned, into something about his hand
as was talking his hand would suddenly extend
over the face of this girl, who was terrified to bits
to this date i still don't know the reason for any of it

as he was telling the story, a man had chipped his tooth
when our hero saw this, he had his shirt removed
revealing on his belly, as smooth and bright as the moon
"well i've been injured as well, here's a gunshot wound!"

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

(it's a true story btw, ask roxymuzak)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

woops this is the photo I meant to post where Wayne is looking all shy and vulnerable:

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/Diehls-Party/johnfirco_loftus

I don't know it counts as crazy psycho stalkerish when all you're doing is looking at a couple of myspace profiles or whatever that people have put on the Internet in full knowledge that anyone can access them.

lupine luck, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

p.s. i think killy should ask wayne out on a date

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

VOTE:
-all shy and vulnerable
OR
-totally fucking stoned

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

whatever that people have put on the Internet in full knowledge that anyone can access them.

to be fair this argument doesn't really work - they most probably putting them on the Internet with the intention that random people would access their details and collate all their websites together etc.

like you don't walk down the street thinking ooooh people can take photographs of me and follow me and work out where i live and work etc, i mean they CAN (have the means to) do it, but it doesn't mean it's not stalking!

but stalking for fun is fun!

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be stalking if we actually cared.

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

VOTE:
-all shy and vulnerable
OR
-totally fucking stoned

Dude's just had a huge bong, that's about 5 minutes before the wiped out on the floor shot.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

dude is shy and maybe a little awkward, but he's not fucking vulnerable, cmon.

he definitely is totally fucking stoned though.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Another person I can't ID: guy at the computer in the shot where Loftus is passed out.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

There is a huge difference between taking a picture of someone walking down the street, and joking with some other folks about a picture posted on the internet.

We're engaging in a perfectly legit, free form of entertainment. Its no biggie.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I think some of you are projecting a bit too much onto "Wayne", saying "Oh, he's got a bright future in electronics with a fat girlfriend while his buddies suffer from G.W.S. and fall in line at the unemployment office."

It's very clear that Wayne is a stoner dude that hangs out at Hooters and can easily be talked into buying beer for a bunch of underage kids as long as he leer at the ladies (and possibly nintendo.)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i wonder why they haven't answered on their board or here, yet...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

The "word from home" board has only had one message since September and the "word from Iraq" one hasn't been touched since July. I'm thinking none of them read it any more.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

or we could begin to speculate about their death-metal suicide pact...

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

When we get to 1000 posts we're going to give them the url of this thread, right?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Wayne might be a lost cause but I'm beginning to think Diehl really did have a threesome with those two girls. This from Megan, posted on diehliniraq.com: "by the way laurel says hello and she misses you very much her married man... but really only in her dreams cause ur my man. anyway, if u ever get lonely just remember ur special surprise from me and laurel...lol WOW." I mean, is there any other way to read this?

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11&view=next&sid=b52746c827ded6a2e3daa6f9f188d029

lupine luck, Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"lol WOW"

kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

so, did anyone go to "bootleggersusa.com"

kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

When we get to 1000 posts we're going to give them the url of this thread, right?

but we have already, haven't we ?

as for the threesome, you might be on something here... but on the other hand, she shows some jealousy ("only in her dreams cause ur my man") so that doesn't fit too well with a threesome.
maybe the surprise was a lesbian thing between her and laurel ?
(deep exegesis !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Apart from the Slayer shirt that the guy with Laurel (whom I still can't ID) is wearing, I never would've guessed that all of these guys seem to be into metal first and foremost.

Are you joking?!

I have been to this party, and hung with these dudes: they are a perfect cross section of a lot of the guys I knew in HS. If they are anything like my friend N__, say, then their music taste will be something like:

Zep
Floyd
Beatles
Pantera
Allman Bros.
Dave Matthews
NOT Phish
Biggy
Metallica
Pick one shitty singer/songwriter (for the LADIEZ)

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

First and foremost: older brother music dominates. But, since we are where we are, older bro is not turning you on to obscure 90s indie or whatever, he is turning you on to what "Wolfy," his older buddy, turned HIM onto when he was in 9th grade. Which means that you're getting this weird trickle down effect that ensure that bands that were big in the early 90s are STILL popular and canonical today.

Also: Sublime. How could I forget?!?!

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex, have we given the m the url? I want to see where they're discussing this! Do we get called "faggets"?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex, have we given the m the url? I want to see where they're discussing this! Do we get called "faggets"?

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=67

but as Onimo said, they don't seem to check their board anymore...
maybe someone should send the info to their myspace...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

so, did anyone go to "bootleggersusa.com"

I did, but there's no info about what Meagan and Laurel did there, since it was over a year ago.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

So what's Laurel doing this afternoon, do ya think...

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel, what are you doing this afternoon? Only Dave was asking.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Gbx, I am basing their musical taste not on conjecture but what their Myspace profiles say.

Pete: In Flames, Black Label Society, Pantera, Alice in Chains, Lamb of God, Dream Theater, Arch Enemy, Killswitch Engage, Metallica, Deftones, Hatebreed, Corrosion of Conformity, Pearl Jam, Diecast, Iced Earth, Tom Petty, Jealousy Curve, Speechwriters LLC

Andy: Alice in Chains, Arch Enemy, Avenged Sevenfold, Black Label Society, Black Sabbath, Bob Seger, Chimaira, Corrosion of Conformity, Death, Deftones, Diecast, Dimmu Borgir, Dream Theater, Fear Factory, Guns N Roses, Hatebreed, Iced Earth, In Flames, John Petrucci, Judas Priest, Killswitch Engage, Lamb of God, Led Zeppelin, Mastodon, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Metallica, Morbid Angel, Nevermore, Ozzy Osbourne, Pantera, Powerman 5000!, Rush, Shadows Fall (those fucking vegans), Six Feet Under, Slayer, Steve Miller Band, Symphony X, Testament, Tom Petty &; the Heartbreakers, Van Halen

Tansey: AcDc, Arch enemy, aerosmith, alice in chains, bad luck 13, bad company, black label society, black sabbath, boston, COC, children of bodom, corpse,Danzig,down,doors,dream theater,dimu borgir,eric clapton,fear factory,garth brooks, geroge thorogood,greatful dead, guns and roses, hatebreed,iron maiden, iced earth,jimi hendrix, kansas, lamb of god, Lynyrd Skynyrd, manson, metallica, megadeth,pantera,ozzy, pink flyod,sepletura,six feet under,slayer,superjoint,steve miller band,the misfits,the return,ted nugent,van halen,zz top, zakk wylde

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe she's discussing metal on an ILM thread not knowing how famous she is on ILE...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Only Dave was asking.
..just so they don't cal me a fagget.

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel doesn't have a myspace page ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

she doesn't reall "get" computers.

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

really .. damn...

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't been able to find it. I think she's friends with Meagan, though, and isn't really part of the guys' scene anymore now that Meagan and Diehl have broken up.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I see, you have proof. Still, they seem like typical hard rock dudes. I mean, Tom Petty?

Pete: In Flames, Black Label Society, Pantera, Alice in Chains, Lamb of God, Dream Theater, Arch Enemy, Killswitch Engage, Metallica, Deftones, Hatebreed, Corrosion of Conformity, Pearl Jam, Diecast, Iced Earth, Tom Petty, Jealousy Curve, Speechwriters LLC

Andy: Alice in Chains, Arch Enemy, Avenged Sevenfold, Black Label Society, Black Sabbath, Bob Seger, Chimaira, Corrosion of Conformity, Death, Deftones, Diecast, Dimmu Borgir, Dream Theater, Fear Factory, Guns N Roses, Hatebreed, Iced Earth, In Flames, John Petrucci, Judas Priest, Killswitch Engage, Lamb of God, Led Zeppelin, Mastodon, Megadeth, Meshuggah, Metallica, Morbid Angel, Nevermore, Ozzy Osbourne, Pantera, Powerman 5000!, Rush, Shadows Fall (those fucking vegans), Six Feet Under, Slayer, Steve Miller Band, Symphony X, Testament, Tom Petty &; the Heartbreakers, Van Halen

Tansey: AcDc, Arch enemy, aerosmith, alice in chains, bad luck 13, bad company, black label society, black sabbath, boston, COC, children of bodom, corpse,Danzig,down,doors,dream theater,dimu borgir,eric clapton,fear factory,garth brooks, geroge thorogood,greatful dead, guns and roses, hatebreed,iron maiden, iced earth,jimi hendrix, kansas, lamb of god, Lynyrd Skynyrd, manson, metallica, megadeth,pantera,ozzy, pink flyod,sepletura,six feet under,slayer,superjoint,steve miller band,the misfits,the return,ted nugent,van halen,zz top, zakk wylde

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

damn ! so we have no traces of Wayne and Laurel ? it's fucked up, man...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link


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