Recommendations for hip-hop without braggadocio (or these other tropes)?

^^ in mind it's always been 'eh-tu-wie-ieeeeeuuuuueeeee' but yours works just as well :)

True sign of a universal language.

Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped

I think it's incredibly tacky (to be generous) to ask this question in this manner, especially at this time.

In fact, if I wasn't being generous I would say it's obvious racist trolling* and the number of posters who are all "wait a minute, there's a serious discussion here we should entertain" is sickening.

* remember, trolling doesn't need to be insincere; it just needs to evoke a reaction

the number of posters who are all "wait a minute, there's a serious discussion here we should entertain" is sickening

rt

DJP otm and also

I was so sure this was an ancient revive

― lukas, Saturday, May 30, 2020 5:37 PM (two days ago)

tbf most of us have been 'engaging' while also being extremely critical of the suspicious-at-best OP and basically asking them to rethink their ideas (which they haven't done)

There is a stark difference between "your thesis is flawed and this is why" and "well hey now, let's not jump down this person's throat; this request is completely understandable and we should be nice"

Sorry to disappoint, DJP. I do hope you're talking cultural differences into account, though – like I keep saying, not all of us are American or even from English-speaking countries, and that has a significant bearing on how we interpret OP's question, no matter how familiar we may be with US culture. I'm fairly certain that such a 'challenge' would have generated no controversy whatsoever on a French-language message board, for instance.

plenty of reasons why it was obvious from the start that this was a troll thread, but don't think "this alleged new poster clearly has detailed knowledge of the history of ilxor.com" has been mentioned yet.

Regardless, roxymuzak's point about 'reading a room' totally stands.

xp

xp Detailed, really? If I had such a ludicrous query on my mind and took an afternoon familiarizing myself with various general music forums, this is where I'd go. I mean that's kind of why I like this place.

I mean stuff like this

I personally haven't assumed that other posters here are American. After all, didn't ILM largely start as a community for fans of a Scottish twee-pop band?

― Melomane, Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:15 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ha, missed that. Did this guy ever say where he is supposedly from?

Braggadocia

Melomane isn't a new poster, though. Just do a name search.

He joined in 2018 and even then posted that ILM formed from Belle and Sebastian fans

So there goes the "he didn't know better" defense

bad questions deserve bad answers so I'm gonna say TobyMac

HHahahaha

Luv is a verb!

i've been here occasionally since mid 00s but somehow only found out the b&s thing this year. so much makes sense now in retrospect

Same lol.

I personally haven't assumed that other posters here are American. After all, didn't ILM largely start as a community for fans of a Scottish twee-pop band?

― Melomane, Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:15 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The shame will always be with us :(

I just checked the wikipedia page to see if the B&S thing is mentioned; it's not but I did see this lmao: "The 200,000th thread occurred on February 1st, 2020 to very little fanfare and much disappointment"

ilx: very little fanfare, much disappointment

lol otm

Get me away from here, I'm drowning in braggadocio.

Braggadocio in the snow, where will you go
To find something you could troll?
Cause the word out on the street is you are FP'ing

Beautiful, brings a twear to my eye.

was ilx actually a belle and sebastian fan forum first? that would be awesome

no idea about this connection to B&S. Google brought me to a book about fan cultures.

https://imgur.com/a/MVojVy5.jpg

I Love Tigermilk

i try again
https://i.imgur.com/lfOWm5J.jpg

Melomane, music fan on the end pew
You'd hip hop, but the tropes just won't let you
Le FP de la Braggadocio

(quiet)

brutal

I prefer "sleepy"

ILM = Joe Biden?

When people on ilx get backed into a corner via backlash they weren't expecting they either lose their cool and end up digging a deeper hole or they try too hard to appear thoughtful and save face with overwritten clarifications and... end up digging a deeper hole.

well i guess we found a sinister user amirite?

It's funny because I was on S*n*st*r (not embarrassed by this fact, just mortified by the content of my posts on there / the person I was aged 19) and then only joined ILX around um 2014 I think? And yeah, there were a couple of people on there like that.

it's good that ILE branched out to loving more than just things from the mid-2000s

Gotta stay with the times.

I thought the first ILM posters came from a Usenet group, and the Sinister folks arrived a year or so later.

There was also Freaky Trigger, obviously, since Tom E. started ILM. But I'm sure about the relationship between FT and alt.music.alternative.

some say the first settlers arrived from Gopher

What's the history behind this board?

"I Love Music" created as a discussion board for online pop fanzine Freaky Trigger.
"I Love Everything" created when lots of personal/non-music content was coming up on "I Love Music".

"ilxor.com" created when the server hosting those two boards began to get erratic and we decided we needed our own one.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, February 14, 2003 3:12 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

It also goes back all the way to alt.music.alternative, too.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, February 14, 2003 6:10 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's pre-history of a certain group of you, no? Plenty of us have been here since the start of ILX and having read Freaky Trigger for a while, without ever having had anything to do with a.m.a

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, February 14, 2003 7:04 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, to be fair if we're including a.m.a. in the history we should include S!n!ster too
― Tom (Groke), Friday, February 14, 2003 7:09 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

ah neat. And nary a mention of Belle nor Sebastian

That part of the borad's history has been hushed up by Big ILX.

it's mentioned in that final Tom E post...?