Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

Apologies if this has already been posted but ffs, this is why nobody trusts these motherfuckers:

I am heartbroken and disgusted to see one of my family members a young black man w/his hands up peacefully protesting and an NYPD officer pulls down his mask and pepper sprays him. @NYCSpeakerCoJo @BPEricAdams @FarahNLouis @JumaaneWilliams @NewYorkStateAG @NYPDShea cc: @EOsyd pic.twitter.com/tGK5XWS0bt

— Ms. Anju J. Rupchandani (@AJRupchandani) May 31, 2020

All I'm gonna say: cops will have no one but themselves to blame for whatever comes from all this.

won't stop em from blaming everyone else

i don't want to crosspost ppl without asking but ums just posted the latest from his neighborhood on the minnesota thread and it is fucking terrifying and chillingly consistent with other reports i have seen this morning and last night.

the militarization of cops 9/11 bills are finally coming due (with many other precedents of course)

hey JonNJ, happy to repost. feel like I'm losing my mind sometimes

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Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown) at 10:44 1 Jun 20

Was up until 4 am last few nights, we have a neighborhood watch group that we formed to track all these vehicles creeping or speeding (always one or the other) though our neighborhood.

My friend's neighbor had his fence soaked in gasoline, they found boards soaked in kerosene in the alley. People have been defending the Longfellow Market, the last unburned grocery store in the neighborhood,if that goes we have no place go buy food for people without cars.

I sound like a crazy person but these vehicles are driving around all night. I've seen them. Going to St Paul yesterday a black BMW SUV shot past us on 94, no plates

THE POLICE ARE NOT DOING SHIT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

I haven't seen any cruisers patrolling or responding to call

Maybe if they weren't engaged in military fashion shooting at peaceful protesters THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS

That's horrible, ums. Stay strong.

<3 love to you ums, fuck these ghouls, fuck the cops

Love to you, ums.

when this over, mpls is going to be angrier than it has ever been before. the reactionaries will try to hijack it for their own purposes. stay alert and safe, ums.

xxxp really Bin Laden could not in his wildest dreams have imagined the slow-burn fruits of 9/11

Americans are such fucking BABIES

be safe, ums. if you don't feel like speculating i completely understand, but what do you think the deal is with the suvs? who are they?

bin Laden clearly "won"

the more people *directly* associate police "dominance" w/ a Trump directive the hotter this is going to get

cops are punchable enough w/o imagining asshole's face on every one of them

Ironically, I don't ever remember in my life seeing so many police forces so out of control, so violently flailing around like cornered animals. Nothing about the president or police project "dominance" right now.

xps to UMS, I feel you. The cops in Phila also seem to be much more interested in intimidating/terrorizing the peaceful demonstrators than with doing a goddamn thing to protect the businesses getting ransacked. A bunch of groceries and pharmacies have been wrecked in the most vulnerable neighborhoods. Things are *relatively* untouched in my area but don't know if that will last. Of course the NG is here now so who knows. Couldn't sleep much last night what with the sirens/helicopters/revving engines/gunshots.

Trump continued, "and when you dominate, don't just dominate in a jokey way like how I joked about grabbing women by the pussy, dominate in a tangible way, like how Hillary Clinton dominated me in the 2016 election by earning 2.8 million more popular votes than me."

Xpost

I think they are alt right militia assholes personally, with accelerants in the back, but I’m just a freaked out Minnesotan reading all this from nyc

The cops pulled one of these over last night and he tried to douse and set his car on fire

I doubt it's unique to Chicago, but when it gets warm here people compulsively light off fireworks every night. Perpetual pops and explosions definitely do not enhance the mood.

Yeah, some bonehead about a block away lights off fireworks pretty much every single Friday, Saturday and Sunday night from Memorial Day to Labor Day. Last night the neighborhood group got a couple of "hey, maybe we could not do that tonight?" emails.

nearly all cops are full-on cowards, just more roided up ones than the Orange Grifter

the militaristic tactics and props of the cops have made me feel like I am living in a war zone all weekend. ... I think it definitely "sets the tone" for protesters to respond in-kind.

And just like that, Fam, we have another name to say. #DavidMcAtee.

— Son of Baldwin (Robert Jones, Jr.) (@SonofBaldwin) June 1, 2020

this is not good!!

Kentucky Governor calls for Louisville Metro Police/National Guard body camera footage of David McAtee killing to be released by nightfall. https://t.co/Erws7JNLdG #DavidMcAtee

— Eric Weinrib (@EricWeinrib) June 1, 2020

Cops are the same the world over.

The cops in Phila also seem to be much more interested in intimidating/terrorizing the peaceful demonstrators than with doing a goddamn thing to protect the businesses getting ransacked.

Ransacked businesses strengthens the cop narrative that excessive force is needed to intimidate and terrorize the peaceful demonstrators, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're letting it happen

june 2019-present: explaining to americans why hong kong cops are bad

may 2020-present: explaining to hong kongers why american cops are bad

— wilfred chan (@wilfredchan) June 1, 2020

My friend got arrested in NYC. she gave a blow by blow detail of all the actions the cops took. I don't want to just c&p it in here as it's long but yeah, they escalated it all

'You’ve got to arrest people, you have to track people, you have to put them in jail for 10 years and you’ll never see this stuff again.'

He still speaks like the racist, ignorant uncle at a family barbecue

Cops are the same the world over.

You must live in one of the countries where they're not allowed to carry guns.

xxxxxpost to Karl

there are confirmed white power/militia groups in the city they are targeting neighborhoods like mine with minority owned businesses

state confirmed in press conference there was a cache of stolen vehicles, no plates. cops pulled over a guy in St. Paul, he jumped out of the car and poured gas over it to try to burn it before the cops got him

it's long but yeah, they escalated it all

to the cop mind, once they are called out in force, the only acceptable outcome is complete submission to their will asap.

tbh, they often demand your submission even sooner than is possible, and the only submissive attitude that is 100% acceptable to every cop is your being unconscious on the ground. even then they might kick you once or twice just to be sure.

xx the point being, i assume, that police around the world perform the same basic functions, not that every police force is literally as lethal as every other. and unarmed cops still kill plenty of people

ACAB

oh, ACAB, right. well, that certainly simplifies a complicated issue.

it's actually not complicated

OK, if there are nice and good and fair police forces in the world I will withdraw my initial remark.

The simplification here is that ACAB does nothing to point to any way out.

If ACAB is a universal and absolute given, then you're left with the unsatisfactory binary situation, where if we have a police force, they cannot be anything but absolute bastards, but if we don't want absolute bastards as police, then, although we may wish to have laws, we can never enforce them.

idk how many of the cops in america are not bastards but they're sure as hell overshadowed by a) the ones who are and b) the structural bastardry of american policing itself

as i say, this does not preclude some cops being people of honour and decency or whatever, even in the line of duty, but when the very tactics and instructions being handed out are vile, it is probably very hard to maintain one's humanity

idk. i tend to have quite a 'sympathy to all' viewpoint on such issues but the stuff that police get away with every day in all of our nations is appalling and it surely indicates a profound defect in how policing works, as well as a tendency for psychopathic fuckheads to wind up in the force

as for what the solution is, please don't ask me

joining the police should require extremely robust mental health/empathy screening is probably the first step

one helpful thing would be to not give them fucking military-grade hardware, making them think that they're a besieged occupying force instead of public servants

The @HouseDemocrats should censure Tom Cotton and Matt Gaetz and remove them from committees. And any other congressperson who advocates for the killing of protesters. pic.twitter.com/YpkCIQYiRa

— Tyler King (@TylerAKing) June 1, 2020

I found this a great read on why 1) yes, ACAB, 2) how we can live post-cop
link

(i know Cotton is a Senator, but wanted to show their shitty tweets in one place)

joining the police should require extremely robust mental health/empathy screening is probably the first step

my gf was just saying this, and my counter was that a lot of ppl who are fine, decent humans when joining the force become violent, reprehensible assholes after spending some time as a cop.

I assume that's true for the military and politics as well. And probably lots of other professions, because humans are terrible.

fuck troops and politicians too

well,, that's settled. what problem shall we solve next?

xxxxxposts ums

i'm really sorry. :( that's what i was afraid of. that is intensely scary. hope you and your family and neighbors are hanging in there as best as you can.