Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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That happens with Airplay too with my AV receiver. I think it has a race condition between the CODEC and the power amp.

DJI, Monday, 1 June 2020 16:36 (one month ago) link

Well, I don't know the song well myself, so you could be right, but the versions on Spotify are all consistent, and match the corresponding ones on YouTube, so if there's an issue, I'd have to guess that it's at the label/master end...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:53 (one month ago) link

Ok it could be my equipment or something but it happens with or without bluetooth. it’s not as catastrophic as I made out I only notice it if I’m previously familiar with CD/mp3 versions. probably is a master issue

no (Left), Monday, 1 June 2020 18:02 (one month ago) link

More voice query weirdness, via Google and Sonos this time. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Dancing Queen by Abba' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens. 'Hey Google, play Abba, Dancing Queen' - plays Dancing Queen by the A*Teens.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:14 (one month ago) link

My latest horror is

"Computer, play Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan on Spotify"

"Playing Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan Tribute Band from Spotify"

Thankfully in this case if I drop the "by Bob Dylan" it plays the right version.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:38 (one month ago) link

I wonder if it's possible to steal from the tip jar of chancers like Bob Dylan Tribute Band.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:40 (one month ago) link

On the plus side, the Beatles problem seems to be mainly fixed. If I ask for a track by the Beatles the Beatles tribute acts don't get a look in.

Weirdly, it's the opposite situation to with Lay Lady Lay though – if I don't specify the Beatles then I get cover versions, though not by soundalike tribute acts:

Computer, play Tomorrow Never Knows on Spotfiy. Playing Tomorrow Never Knows by Aso from Spotify
Computer, play You Won't See Me on Spotify. Playing You Won't See by Anne Murray from Spotify.

Alba, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:51 (one month ago) link

This is a total bummer, and probably means I’m moving to Tidal or something:


https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21192473/spotify-revoking-support-developer-api-third-party-dj-apps-algoriddim-djay

DJI, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:09 (one month ago) link

Or you know buy music

DJI, Saturday, 6 June 2020 20:16 (one month ago) link

Oh no that's seriously bad news

Alba, Saturday, 6 June 2020 21:09 (one month ago) link

Ffs Spotify. They seem hell bent on making their app as un-user friendly as possible. From little things like not being able copy an artist name on the desktop app (something so simple that someone must have made a choice to remove it) to preventing anyone from using this huge resource for anything useful while stripping away any flexibility. The leadership must be on some 5D chess shit cos from down here it may seems bone headed and frankly antagonistic to users. Itss almost like it knows it's got the best catalogue of the streamers and the fancy algorithm (which admittedly is very good) will keep people subscribed, so they're making the baseline experience so low that any small improvements in the future will look miraculous.

closed beta (NotEnough), Sunday, 7 June 2020 07:26 (one month ago) link

hey glenn, can you get "FENIX FLEXIN TYPE BEAT" off Baby Dee's Popular tracks list? I'm sure she'd be amused but hey.
https://open.spotify.com/album/6PCURlsQP9m5RCdvtQOT2X

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 June 2020 02:14 (one month ago) link

Reported...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 June 2020 13:20 (one month ago) link

gracias

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 June 2020 13:48 (one month ago) link

That is really a bummer about djay integration. I like just playing with that stuff. How is Tidal's catalogue these days?

In the mood now for Discover Weekly, first time in ages. I had been automatically saving them to a playlist. Today I ran "artist de-dup" on smarterplaylists and went from 335 hours to just 71 hours worth of robot suggestions to catch up on. Maybe.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 14:02 (one month ago) link

I recently put my auto-archives of Release Radar through http://organizeyourmusic.playlistmachinery.com and have been listening to a (still long) playlist that consists only of … high-valence chamber pop. It's much better than it sounds.

Alba, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:03 (one month ago) link

I'm frustrated because my Discover Weeklies (which aren't a "discovery" for me...stuff like Big Star or Wire, but that's ok because youngsters are just discovering that stuff)...

Anyway, my DWs are extremely white and kind of fortysomething indie cornball thing that annoys me to no end, which is weird because I spend half my time or more listening to artists who aren't white. Meanwhile, my Release Radar has a lot of black, Latino or Asian artists. The difference is pretty stark.

Also, the pop and dance music I listen to NEVER seems to make it on DW, whereas RR accurately reflects my taste.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:28 (one month ago) link

I mean, I don't hate the DWs, but they tend to recommend stuff I was listening to in 1993, so I do listen to them so see if I still like that stuff...but none of the goth, dance, r&b, soul, reggae etc. shows up.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:30 (one month ago) link

is this real or a forgery?
https://open.spotify.com/album/6h3otGDKSu9pCcUG7cpTtT?si=TKx9pqGOQ2a7dl_89Nj-pA

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:52 (one month ago) link

i ask bc there's no information about an album if you google it and i shazam'ed Mindful Bliss and it came up as Mark Barrott's Coming Up for Air but then i shazam'd Bittersweet and it's a song called Fzv by Tomash Kofa

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:55 (one month ago) link

and the late great says sandcastles on salinas is a future loop foundation track + he recognizes some others too

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:57 (one month ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

and

2) Only very subtle binaural flourishes

but it's pretty easy to just whack this on while working. However I do sort of wonder if this is the audio equivalent of Huel.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:05 (one month ago) link

Spotify fueling a barely music renaissance

(and I'm here for it)

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:11 (one month ago) link

I came across a Delta Wave Deep Sleep one when I was searching for ambient playlists a week or two ago

Seemed an odd mix of some ambient sounding tracks and others that were just bass hums xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:44 (one month ago) link

there are so many incredible ambient records from the 90s that don't exist on spotify.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

Yes. I wonder how hard it would be for a label to get some older releases on these popular focus/work/study playlists.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:02 (one month ago) link

It doesn't even seem to be a genre on there - just 'ambient sounds' so gets lumped in with all the 'pink noise' and 'whale sounds' shit.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:07 (one month ago) link

if glenn doesn't have a "pink noise and whale sounds" category already...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 23:35 (one month ago) link

Can anyone (glenn?) explain how this happens

https://open.spotify.com/track/5aUf13PE8XmentDXP9zqTC?si=Xyu7FEV1T6O2wifx23iGug

It's supposed to be Slow Motion by SFF but about 47 seconds in it starts playing Babin by Josky Kiambukuta & Youlou Mabiala O_o

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 12:55 (four weeks ago) link

Anybody into 'binaural beats'?

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX7EF8wVxBVhG?si=QjyP3LJkSjigsmyKSR-Evw

Feel like it's a slight misnomer as there are

1) No beats

Aren't "binaural beats" "beats" in the sense of a rhythmic interference pattern between frequencies? Like when you're tuning a stringed instrument against another string and you get it very close and you can hear a tremolo-like "beating" effect which speeds up or slows down as you turn the tuning peg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_%28acoustics%29

But yeah, it's a confusing name for them as a playlist on a music site.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 13:27 (four weeks ago) link

Schicke Führs Fröhling turning into Youlou Mabiala is bizarre. The two albums come from the same licensor, so I guess my only theory involves a distracted label intern trying to do too many uploads at once. I'll ask our people to ask their people to give it another try!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:17 (four weeks ago) link

As for "binaural", you can find LOTS more here: http://everynoise.com/engenremap-binaural.html

and you can see the whole genre-space reordered relative to binaural here: http://everynoise.com/everynoise1d.cgi?root=binaural&scope=all

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:53 (four weeks ago) link

Nice one glenn xp

The correct version of Slow Motion appears on their 2018 Collected Works LP so I added that to the playlist I was making instead

groovypanda, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 14:56 (four weeks ago) link

Not enough individual whale-song artists to make a "whale" genre yet.

Moby, Orca, Ambergris, Dolphin....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2up7su7CeMU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:56 (four weeks ago) link

Am I crazy or is there no shuffle play option anymore on the desktop UI?

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:36 (four weeks ago) link

lol, never mind, I'm a dummy. I had a podcast still paused as my currently playing track and the shuffle option only appears when you're playing music.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:37 (four weeks ago) link

Latest Test Pressing lockdown playlist, from Stevie Kotey, is an absolute peach.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1iDtw4YCHWv9Izp5pBrqEo?si=ySgxH6U7RB2iWjZ7djH2BQ

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:43 (three weeks ago) link

First time I’ve ever come across something where the titles are shifted by one from the song that is playing: https://open.spotify.com/album/4WV3kUWmeCpq7I4bM6BM4J?si=cspEkw1LTq-1nx5rmcKBig

Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:39 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, looks like it's probably wrong at the source. I'll get a message passed along to the licensor to see if they will fix it. Thanks!

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:56 (three weeks ago) link

If you have autoplay on is there any way to stop it playing certain tracks/artists? When we play wheels on the bus it follows it up with kids bible songs :/

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 08:15 (three weeks ago) link

We get cutesy ukelele versions of popular classics :(

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 10:59 (three weeks ago) link

No, there's no current way to influence autoplay, and you're not the first person to discover that the current algorithm often matches non-religious kids songs with religious kids songs. I've looked at the listening patterns for these, and they basically make sense: those songs share a LOT of listeners, and it's not simple to tell from the numbers that this is because religious-kids-music audiences are happy to hear "Wheels on the Bus" but non-religious-kids-music-audiences are not as happy to hear bible songs.

Hopefully we'll eventually get artist/song banning working ubiquitously across all parts of the app, which will then give you the ability to get rid of individual things you don't want, but if we don't solve the underlying problem, banning the bible tracks you're hearing is likely to just get you different bible tracks. And solving the underlying problem means modeling the asymmetry of religious-music listening, which is a serious problem in both cultural and technical terms. It's doable, we've done similar efforts for Christmas music and kids music in general. But that's how I know it's hard.

My practical recommendation is to use the songs you LIKE from Autoplay to build a playlist, and then use the Recommended Songs at the bottom of that playlist to fill it out with more things you like or at least tolerate, and then turn Autoplay off and go with your own longer list.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:50 (three weeks ago) link

Is the autoplay the 'Radio based on' type thing that starts when you get to the end of a playlist?

If so have nothing but praise for it as have made some fantastic discoveries listening to it

groovypanda, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:59 (three weeks ago) link

It's also a really really useful on smart speakers: just being able to ask for a single track and let it run from there is a lot less fiddly than specifying names of playlists.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:06 (three weeks ago) link

thanks for the info and tips glenn, very informative. i guess the large religious-kids-music user base in the states is also a factor.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

might be easier to be a devout follower for awhile, stopping immediately when the algorithm is fixed

voltmeter said i had potential (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

i thought about exclusively listening to kids religious music for a few weeks then hitting "i don't like this artist" when it starts showing up in discover weekly.

neith moon (ledge), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 16:36 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:48 (three weeks ago) link

I was impressed when a ~700 song playlist shuffled from Smiths' "Rubber Ring" into Kenny Chesney's "I Go Back"

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:21 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, I apologize on behalf of the entire software industry for uncontrollable algorithms you're forced to try to game indirectly...

we suffer, it's true.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:03 (three weeks ago) link


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