Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

Dave Matthews = literally Hitler confirmed.

You shit on your fans, they're gonna throw hands

Mysterious pile of bricks found by the the stage

The Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board is moving toward severing its longtime relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department because the death of #GeorgeFloyd has "severely undermined community trust ... and sense of safety." https://t.co/SZfME5Hr74

— Star Tribune (@StarTribune) June 3, 2020

The dominoes fall.. awesome

I agree with Karl, I assumed this was tweeted by the NYPD this week as a deliberate "fuck you there will be no accountability" statement and it has a different color as something posted a month ago.

Oh I don't disagree at all about how tweeting it this week would be an extra layer of callousness and "fuck you" energy, but I still don't see the issue with calling out the PD for every and any fucking way they try to avoid culpability and accountability.

SOROS BUY US NEGRONIS

The left-wing conspiracy is so vast, it has black people willingly selling themselves back into slavery

I am getting sick of bad info myself. I'm a fan of "good looking out", but things go from "hey this is something I heard, can someone verify" into a "HEY GUYS, THIS IS A THING THAT IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING, WATCH OUT".

like the piles of bricks, which in most cases are tied to construction. not that I trust the police at all but don't wanna flood people with too many land mines to watch out for and have them miss the obvious one in front of them.

xxxpost

There was a pretty decent Buzzfeed article I saw where they debunked 10 or so of the "mystery pile of bricks" photos from Twitter. For the most part they were all eventually tied back to construction projects or, in one case, piles of bricks that a private business had put for "security" before the protests started (which they subsequently removed, realizing they weren't a good idea).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUdbH83N4Kw

^ Verified by a friend of a cousin of a barber of my next-door-neighbor's dog.

"BuzzFeed News has documented claims made about bricks in Boston, Dallas, Kansas City, San Francisco, and elsewhere. In several cases, bricks were placed long before protests began in the US, or they are clearly linked to ongoing construction."https://t.co/eUTPOYEZEf https://t.co/C6iiOZn0nv

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) June 3, 2020

Don't think I've ever seen signing like the woman doing it at the Keith Ellison press conference. I'm not even sure at times if she's transcribing what he's saying.

Me neither! These expressions are....wild.

new york times . . . thank's

Send In the Troops
The nation must restore order. The military stands ready.

By Tom Cotton

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html

"On the contrary, nihilist criminals are simply out for loot and the thrill of destruction, with cadres of left-wing radicals like antifa infiltrating protest marches to exploit Floyd’s death for their own anarchic purposes."

check out that antifa link that cotton cites - it's from a statement by william fucking barr. yeah, great source. and barr himself simply says "The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

Me neither! These expressions are....wild.

― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:24 PM (twenty minutes ago)

I'm no expert but aiui facial expressions are a component of ASL as much as the hand signs

I've sometimes noticed ASL interpreters will pull exaggerated faces to convey a tone/register esp for jokes

I don't doubt all that--not sure if you saw her--but at times her expression didn't seem to match what he was saying at all. I mean, I'm sure there are subtleties going on there that are lost on me.

I'm sure Cotton wrote and submitted that like a day ago and thanks to that it looks particularly weird and jarring coming after a night that was mild from a violence standpoint (at least, from the protester's side, not the pigs'). but also after Trump has privately said he doesn't want to send in military anymore and after his own Defense Secretary has said "nah, not necessary".

it's cotton sacred duty to be on the vanguard of emerging fascism in this country, so i'm sure he takes pride in pushing for it anyway

Obama speaking now/

Looks like the interpreter was news before today--first time I'd seen her myself.

http://www.soundhealthandlastingwealth.com/covid-19/minnesota-governors-sign-language-interpreter-goes-viral/

so there is someone listening in the front row and signing to her, and then she's signing....again?

that is truly bizarre

Zapko is part of a push for Deaf interpreters to take center stage while hearing interpreters play a secondary role.

cool!

that is cool!

All power to her--I've never seen such emotional signing.

I thought the line-dancing protesters were pretty cool but Haka seems like the optimal frontline FUCK YOU choice

❤️✊🏿✊🏼✊🏻✊🏽✊🏾 https://t.co/UpA1NwkSuL

— @tiffanydcross (@TiffanyDCross) June 3, 2020

Bob Kraft became an extremist

https://gothamist.com/news/protesters-threatened-enraged-man-four-bladed-weapon-queens

that's what happens when you take away a man's Happy Ending routine

https://newrepublic.com/article/157981/police-take-side-white-vigilantes

That's evident from any cop-infested FB thread

yeah but that's a good one to share with people who might be on the fence

Oh i completely agree, it's a good article

20-year-old filming protest in Austin shot in head with rubber bullet meant for someone else, crowd rushes to help and is also fired upon.

https://www.kxan.com/news/everything-we-know-about-the-20-year-old-man-critically-hurt-in-austin-protests/

The police report appended to the end of that Gothamist article is such underplayed bullshit:

"There is a complaint report on file for a menacing incident in the vicinity of Clintonville Street and Cross Island Parkway. A 23-year-old male reported to police that an unidentified individual exited a vehicle with a sharp object and displayed it to a crowd that was peacefully protesting and fled in a vehicle described as a gray SUV Mercury. There were no reported injuries as a result, no arrests at this time and the investigation is ongoing."

Almost as bad as the one from Asheville police

things go from "hey this is something I heard, can someone verify" into a "HEY GUYS, THIS IS A THING THAT IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING, WATCH OUT".

Yeah for me this is the issue of whether out-of-town Proud Boys are in fact rolling into town in pickups with covered plates ready to beat or shoot, every night there is chatter THEY'RE HERE THEY'RE HERE THEY'VE BEEN SIGHTED, obviously I am hoping this is just people being paranoid and wondering whether it's just deliberate disinfo

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/style/police-protests-video.html

Who is this serving?

Who is this protecting? pic.twitter.com/IK8DkwLLUT

— jordan (@JordanUhl) May 31, 2020

Again...

Who is this serving?

Who is this protecting? pic.twitter.com/FPMnPxUaMl

— jordan (@JordanUhl) June 1, 2020

DC MPD to “investigate” the Swann Street showdown that led to all those protesters staying over at that guy’s house

https://dcist.com/story/20/06/03/d-c-police-chief-defends-officers-involved-in-incident-on-swann-street/

Seems like progress

#BREAKING Los Angeles Police Commission announces reforms:

-Require officers to intervene if they see misconduct
-Support establishment of special prosecutor for police misconduct outside District Attorney
-Cut $100-150 million in police budget
-Lessen juvenile jailing

— Elex Michaelson (@Elex_Michaelson) June 4, 2020

cutting the budget is the big one

That's the one that got the most complaints in the replies I read. A lot of people who think they want reforms still don't quite get it. "How will they fight crime?"

only 300 rocket launchers instead of 750

A good start.

Distant xpost, but I actually took American Sign Language as one of my language requirements at school (sadly, I've forgotten most of it). It was fascinating to learn how much your hyper expressive face and eyes and eye contact play a role in providing punctuation, among other components; it's as important as and sometimes more important than the signing itself, so much so that it's remarkably hard to subtitle. I've recommended taking ASL classes to plenty of folks as a good public speaking tool, actually.

That said, remember, 100 years ago, when that translator in ... the Olympics? South Africa? Mandela tribute? Wherever it was, he was totally goofy and briefly became a translator celebrity, until it was shown he was an imposter who was just gesticulating wildly and creatively.

I do remember that, that was very silly.

There will always still be 390 million out of 330 million-ish bad guys with guns.